Posted: 7/16/2001 7:20:32 PM EDT
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Quick question..... What is required to transfer a rifle from a private party to myself? My FFL buddy who I work with is out of town and I"m too damn impatient to wait for his reply!! Specifically, does the party selling need a copy of my buddies FFL in order to ship the gun to him? I know once the FFL holder has it, it's SOP, but am curious as to getting the gun TO HIM. Geez, I read this 3 times and hope it makes sense!! Thanks. |
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If it's coming from a private seller out of state, the seller has to verify somehow that your FFL buddy, the recipient, is in fact a licensee, before he can legally ship it. If it's coming from an in-state source, it generally doesn't need to go through an FFL at all... You don't list your state of residence - that can make a difference for states like California. |
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Circuits, Thanks for the reply. Yes, it is coming from out of state to my FFL holder. What does the seller need to verify then? He (the seller) mentioned a signed copy of my buddies FFL, but that doesn't seem right. If I were the FFL, I wouldn't want my signed license to go to someone unknown. My FFL holder has been at it for a long time, so I'm sure he'll know. I just was trying to get things lined up. He is doing me a favor....again!! He just doesn't know it yet!! [;)] |
| An ink-signed copy of the recipient's FFL is only required if the sender is also an FFL. The most common means of verification now would be to send the first 3 and last five digits to the sender, so he can verify the licensee's name and licensed premises address on the ATF's FFL EZ-Check page at their website. Another way to accomplish that would be to black out all but the first 3 and last 5 digits on an unsigned copy of the license, and mail that to the sender. |
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[url]http://atf.treas.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm[/url] (B3) May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-state source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the purchaser's own state? A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-state source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser's state of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer. [18 U. S. C 922( a)( 3) and (5), 922( b)( 3), 27 CFR 178.29] --- There's nothing in the FAQ requiring the sender to have a signed copy of the FFL; he/she just must be sure the recipient is an FFL. This, as stated, can be accomplished by looking up the numbers on the website. -Troy |
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Thanks guys.... I'm just trying to get syuff lined up for my FFL when he gets back in town. I've always done dealer/dealer stuff before. I'll pass on the info. Oh, one more thing: Is my FFL then required to put it in his books? Techically, the weapon was never his to sell. Geez, why do they make this stuff so damn complicated? Thanks again. Jim |
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Is my FFL then required to put it in his books? Techically, the weapon was never his to sell. Absolutely! Must be logged in when he receives it and logged out when he transfers it to you. Your FFL is required to keep the form 4473 (the yellow form) in his files, and the numbers must match. Many FFLs have "in stock" firearms in their inventory as opposed to firearms that are owned personally by them. If a FFL wants to transfer one of his "in stock" firearms to himself he must show it in his books, even though the location the firearm is kept doesn't change. |