[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Toyota Recalls Certain Toyota Tundra and Lexus GX and LX Vehicles - V35A Redux (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 11/8/2025 11:16:05 AM EDT
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Attached File https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-recalls-certain-toyota-tundra-and-lexus-gx-and-lx-vehicles/ Shocked - SHOCKED this hasn't had a thread. Or did search fail again? |
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Quoted: Same. 130K on it so it still has lots of life left in it. I have been debating giving it to my youngest son a picking up a low miles 20 or 21 for myself. Dad has a 2017 with less than 45K on the clock. He never really drives it. He’s only OCUNUS 4 months out of the year. Next year he’s staying overseas. I drive it ever so often just to keep things in it moving. Low mileage, paid off, kept in perfect condition. Just not 4wd. It’ll be around after very long time. |
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Toyota does a lot right. Vetting new engines is not one of them. The same V6 in my mother’s 4th gen, my 5th gen u.s. Hilux, and my 2nd gen 4Runner had a recall and head gasket issues. My ‘11 FJ Cruiser manual V6 and ‘23 GX V8 are proven, But man am I glad I grabbed a ‘23 instead of a ‘24 GX. And not considered the new LC / 4Runner engines. |
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Quoted: still nothing for the hybrid models, which have had the same failures Also get this does not qualify under recall provisions, which is NHSTA would be unable to involuntary them. But still I'm disappointed that TMNA does not program these with inspections or extended warranties. I expect they will. Trying to recall the timeline for 4GR moving from lots are shitting the bed, to piston replacement, to a 9 year unlimited program. The 2AZ oil consumption was similar with a tests then replacement. But sucks they haven't made any moves, tho I entirely understand the liability posture. It's the correct legal position. We'll see how the litigation (in place and future) resolves tho. |
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Quoted: Not entirely true. They are covered under various mfg warranties, including Gold and Silver CPO. Plus Extended - which I'd avail myself if buying. Also get this does not qualify under recall provisions, which is NHSTA would be unable to involuntary them. But still I'm disappointed that TMNA does not program these with inspections or extended warranties. I expect they will. Trying to recall the timeline for 4GR moving from lots are shitting the bed, to piston replacement, to a 9 year unlimited program. The 2AZ oil consumption was similar with a tests then replacement. But sucks they haven't made any moves, tho I entirely understand the liability posture. It's the correct legal position. We'll see how the litigation (in place and future) resolves tho. Quoted: Quoted: still nothing for the hybrid models, which have had the same failures Also get this does not qualify under recall provisions, which is NHSTA would be unable to involuntary them. But still I'm disappointed that TMNA does not program these with inspections or extended warranties. I expect they will. Trying to recall the timeline for 4GR moving from lots are shitting the bed, to piston replacement, to a 9 year unlimited program. The 2AZ oil consumption was similar with a tests then replacement. But sucks they haven't made any moves, tho I entirely understand the liability posture. It's the correct legal position. We'll see how the litigation (in place and future) resolves tho. I understand why the hybrids are not included in the recall, and as you said, it sucks that they haven’t really fully acknowledged the issue at hand. Concerning the debris from manufacturing that was supposedly addressed with the first engine recall, I do remember someone here stating they didn’t actually fix the issue until late 2024, well after the VIN cutoff for the first recall. |
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Quoted: Toyota does a lot right. Vetting new engines is not one of them. The same V6 in my mother's 4th gen, my 5th gen u.s. Hilux, and my 2nd gen 4Runner had a recall and head gasket issues. My '11 FJ Cruiser manual V6 and '23 GX V8 are proven, But man am I glad I grabbed a '23 instead of a '24 GX. And not considered the new LC / 4Runner engines. |
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Quoted: I hear the 4 banger engine has actually been around for quite some time in foreign markets. I think it's trustworthy Quoted: Quoted: Toyota does a lot right. Vetting new engines is not one of them. The same V6 in my mother's 4th gen, my 5th gen u.s. Hilux, and my 2nd gen 4Runner had a recall and head gasket issues. My '11 FJ Cruiser manual V6 and '23 GX V8 are proven, But man am I glad I grabbed a '23 instead of a '24 GX. And not considered the new LC / 4Runner engines. I thought is was around just a couple of years in mixed transverse and inline drivetrains. Regardless, a good turbo 4 let alone hybrid does not appeal to me. |
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Sweet ride.
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Quoted: I thought is was around just a couple of years in mixed transverse and inline drivetrains. Regardless, a good turbo 4 let alone hybrid does not appeal to me. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Toyota does a lot right. Vetting new engines is not one of them. The same V6 in my mother's 4th gen, my 5th gen u.s. Hilux, and my 2nd gen 4Runner had a recall and head gasket issues. My '11 FJ Cruiser manual V6 and '23 GX V8 are proven, But man am I glad I grabbed a '23 instead of a '24 GX. And not considered the new LC / 4Runner engines. I thought is was around just a couple of years in mixed transverse and inline drivetrains. Regardless, a good turbo 4 let alone hybrid does not appeal to me. The commercial duty version - marketed as i-Force - commenced at TMMA early in 2024. It's seeing global duty in stuff like Kluger, Crown, Prado. Despite not appealing, there's been no issues as the GRs saw early with head gaskets until '06 revision, the timing covers leaks that are still appearing under warranty, UR valley plate seal failures or cam tower seal leaks. I'm curious who does a better job of new drivetrain testing and validation than Toyota? By what measure are we assessing? Globally or TMNA? |
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Quoted: Real GXs have the V8. They will survive end times. The 2UZ - long as you stay on the timing belts at 90k, with water pump and tensioners, do the starter every other - prolly only kill it with a stake through its heart  |
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Not sure if this would actually prevent this issue but you will never convince me a brand new engine doesn't need an oil/filter change pretty much right away with another a few k miles later before you go to a 5k interval. Buying a brand new vehicle and going 10k before the first oil change seems like madness to me. |
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This why I bought the Land Cruiser Sport.* Which has a 360deg camera recall… I may back over some kid, but my engine wonKt blow up. Quoted: Every engine made in the last 30 years uses sealant. Quoted: Every engine made in the last 30 years uses sealant. This is why you do a 500mi oil change. *and the Lexus dealers were being cunty. |
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Quoted: T24A went into production late 2021. Debuting in the NX350. It's been in a number of models. The commercial duty version - marketed as i-Force - commenced at TMMA early in 2024. It's seeing global duty in stuff like Kluger, Crown, Prado. Despite not appealing, there's been no issues as the GRs saw early with head gaskets until '06 revision, the timing covers leaks that are still appearing under warranty, UR valley plate seal failures or cam tower seal leaks. I'm curious who does a better job of new drivetrain testing and validation than Toyota? By what measure are we assessing? Globally or TMNA? I’m going back- They’ll bring out an engine that’s bombproof, then throw 3VZ-E V6 in multiple platforms and have a recall, then a bombproof engine, Then an engine with recalls, etc. It’s maddening. |
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Quoted: I'm going back- They'll bring out an engine that's bombproof, then throw 3VZ-E V6 in multiple platforms and have a recall, then a bombproof engine, Then an engine with recalls, etc. It's maddening. Quoted: Quoted: T24A went into production late 2021. Debuting in the NX350. It's been in a number of models. The commercial duty version - marketed as i-Force - commenced at TMMA early in 2024. It's seeing global duty in stuff like Kluger, Crown, Prado. Despite not appealing, there's been no issues as the GRs saw early with head gaskets until '06 revision, the timing covers leaks that are still appearing under warranty, UR valley plate seal failures or cam tower seal leaks. I'm curious who does a better job of new drivetrain testing and validation than Toyota? By what measure are we assessing? Globally or TMNA? I'm going back- They'll bring out an engine that's bombproof, then throw 3VZ-E V6 in multiple platforms and have a recall, then a bombproof engine, Then an engine with recalls, etc. It's maddening. Even as recently as a bit before COViD you had 40k A25A 2.5L blocks that weren't cooled correctly at foundry and required recall. An example of production defects - the hybrid system and ICE components normally being inordinately solid. Not seeing this kind of failure outside the run. It's was corrected and has not recurred. But it begs how the quality systems failed or lacked proper organization at inception. But complex systems experience exceptions, which is why mechanisms to correct are so important. Which I still believe is what we are seeing with this V35A debris issue. Tho once there's more public info, if correctly ascribing the failure, we can comment further. NHSTA reports should be out next week. With shutdown, maybe not that soon. But it's definitely concerning. I'm having a very difficult time coming up with situations where you have serial process issues, resulting in swarf/burrs remaining. Even more so, once discovered, continuing to fail to correct process sufficiently. That said, I'm not sure I can point at a mfg who does a better job at quality management. Even this narrow aspect. Especially at the volume and breadth of systems Toyota produces. We can look at measures assessing - such as raw or weighted recall numbers, relatively short term quality surveys like JDS, much longer surveys such as dashboard-lights.com (which are what's available to the public) and some others. Beyond anecdotes and feelz (and don't get me wrong my expectations are violated as well) not sure there's much that supports your point. But maybe it's exactly expectations of very low defect counts being violated and Toyota is somewhat a victim of their own success. Regardless of objective, relative quality realities found in comparisons, this will impact their reputation, and possibly sales, of at least the products involved. Tho as demonstrated here regularly there's a lack of awareness and understanding from much of the consumer pool. This second recall vindicates some public discourse previous, tho until its arrival comment wasn't based on publicly available information. |
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So based on an anonymous poster on a toyota forum, who claims to work for toyota, the debris is casting sand. I will say the dude correctly called the turbo waste gate recall before it happened, called the last debris recall before it happened, and pointed out at that time they were only recalling like 1/3rd of the effected trucks so he called this expansion of the recall as well. The guy claims the engines used to go into an industrial washing machine to get the casting sand out and someone came up with a cost/time savings concept of eliminating the industrial washer and just posting two workers with pressure washers. This has not worked out. |
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Quoted: Its why I flew to 3 different states to find a pristine 20k mile 2021 V8 Tundra I posted this in another thread on GD already so excuse my whining but I just wanted to again point out Toyota are kind of being dicks here. I own a 24 Tundra that is subject to the motor recall. Toyota dealer has a 21 Tundra with the 5.7L and 26k miles for $38k. My truck is paid off and the KBB trade in value is $43k, I asked them to just go straight across with me to remedy this and they can do the motor swap when it comes in and keep me a happy customer. They said they had no interest in acquiring my 24 Tundra. Thanks Toyota. |
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I ran into a guy at the transfer station yesterday in a new 1794 edition Tundra. I pulled up next to him in my ‘14 “How do you like that new Tundra?” I love it, it’s been a great truck. “Are you worried about the engine recall?” I haven’t had any problems in 25k miles. If it blows up, it blows up and I’ll get a new engine. |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_0235_jpeg-3655275.JPG https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-recalls-certain-toyota-tundra-and-lexus-gx-and-lx-vehicles/ Shocked - SHOCKED this hasn't had a thread. Or did search fail again? Machining debris. Sure. We said the same thing. I bet its the bearings, the material they're made of and the clearances involved, just like us. |
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Quoted: Not sure if this would actually prevent this issue but you will never convince me a brand new engine doesn't need an oil/filter change pretty much right away with another a few k miles later before you go to a 5k interval. Buying a brand new vehicle and going 10k before the first oil change seems like madness to me. I've always done 500 miles or so before I change it. It's $30-$35 as compared to a 10-15K engine replacement after warranty expires. |
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But not ugly wheels 
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Quoted: Keeping my ‘14 for a fair few years more Quoted: Quoted: The prices of V8 Tundras were starting to fall a bit. Now they’ll be holding value very well. Shoulda bought earlier this summer. Keeping my ‘14 for a fair few years more Same with my 16. Toyota needs to get itself together. They are known for reliability, and this is not a good look. |
Oh, and going off topic, but still Toyota, they just released superchargers for 98-02 Land Cruisers and LX470, 01-02 Sequoia, and 00-02 Tundra Interesting. Part numbers are 00602-17620-401 00602-17620-402 00602-17620-403 ETA, those are not links, so don’t expect to see anything if you click them |
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And my 15 Taco TRD just keeps holding it's value. No low ballers, I know what I have. Attached File |
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Quoted: Toyota should issue a recall on their shitass paint jobs. Absolute TRASH. https://media4.giphy.com/media/8U3YhzfeDqg8ihkkPa/200.webp?cid=8dc8958cf60a46znvj7viq2a3pyl4ntq96e5glpekf932t57&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200.webp&ct=g Unfortunately that's not how the recall system works. |
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Quoted: Same with my 16. Toyota needs to get itself together. They are known for reliability, and this is not a good look. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The prices of V8 Tundras were starting to fall a bit. Now they'll be holding value very well. Shoulda bought earlier this summer. Keeping my '14 for a fair few years more Same with my 16. Toyota needs to get itself together. They are known for reliability, and this is not a good look. 2020 saw a large recall of Toyota and Lexus A25A hybrid engines due to block defects from the foundry Tho that was bit less than half the volume of the first V35A recall, still significant. Had you heard about it? By a wide swath of objective quality measures, over a significant time period, Toyota has demonstrated it deserves that reputation. But they aren't, nor have they been flawless. No doubt this being both high profile and a flagship product hurts. It also feeds into a general narrative that's not very well supported - but ran with anyway. So beleive me, I'm sure Akio and Sato have made some calls. |
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Quoted: Impossible! Toyota is infallible! A backpacker is traveling through Ireland when it starts to rain. He decides to wait out the storm in a nearby pub. The only other person at the bar is an older man staring at his drink. After a few moments of silence the man turns to the backpacker and says in a thick Irish accent: "You see this bar? I built this bar with my own bare hands. I cut down every tree and made the lumber myself. I toiled away through the wind and cold, but do they call me McGreggor the bar builder? No." He continued "Do you see that stone wall out there? I built that wall with my own bare hands. I found every stone and placed them just right through the rain and the mud, but do they call me McGreggor the wall builder? No." "Do ya see that pier out there on the lake? I built that pier with my own bare hands, driving each piling deep into ground so that it would last a lifetime. Do they call me McGreggor the pier builder? No." "But ya fuck one goat.." Toyota fucked the goat with the V6 turbo. |
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I recently bought a Gen 2 Sequoia 4x4 specifically because they're more reliable with 200k+ miles than most brand new vehicles and that's a damn shame. It replaced a 2019 GMC Sierra AT4 that lost its 6.2L V8 at 60k miles from lifter failure, an issue GM knows full well is a problem but they refuse to issue a recall. They've done limited recalls on newer model trucks but ignore the hundreds of thousands of their prior fuck ups. |
[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Toyota Recalls Certain Toyota Tundra and Lexus GX and LX Vehicles - V35A Redux (Page 1 of 3)
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