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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:04:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/13/2003 11:15:05 AM EDT by DavidC]
What do you guys think? ATN Illuminated 6-18x65 on top of a 16" Oly SUM 5.56? [img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/bigscope.jpg[/img] Actually, that scope will be going on top of the PTR-91 I just picked up once I get all the parts together to make it into a PSG-1-like rifle. The Oly will probably get an OK Reflex and a set of folding iron sights. Or maybe a somewhat smaller scope. [img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/dpms16.jpg[/img] But even that looks like too much scope. That's a 6.5-20x50 to give you some idea of how huge the ATN scope is. [;)] Too many toys and too rainy to go to the range [}:)]
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:09:31 AM EDT
When the scope weighs more than the rifle, I think you have too much scope....[;)]
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:12:55 AM EDT
If you're shooting for a particular PORE on someones face...that scope is PERFECT! [;D]
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:15:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/13/2003 11:15:40 AM EDT by cyanide]
Try shooting a moving target with it. Or picking a target up quick with it in a cluttered environment. Target gun only.
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:15:37 AM EDT
Perfect for trimming a groundhog's asshair at 600 meters!
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:17:34 AM EDT
Have as much scope as you like [BD] The problem with large objective scopes is getting them high enough, then, when you do, you have problems getting a cheek weld (with a rifle that doesn't have an adjustable stock on it)
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:18:22 AM EDT
Nope... bigger.
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:21:14 AM EDT
Too little rifle.
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:21:14 AM EDT
Hey, what's that thing hanging under your scope? Oh, I see it now ... it's a carbine. The 6-18x65 would be [i]perfect[/i] for CQB - you can use it to beat the adversary to death, assuming you're strong enough to lift it over your head. Crikey!
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:22:41 AM EDT
Originally Posted By cyanide: Try shooting a moving target with it. Or picking a target up quick with it in a cluttered environment. Target gun only.
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You did read the part that says that scope isn't staying on that rifle, right? It's a bit of humor on a day of miserable weather. This is the "reach out and touch someone" AR. Last range trip we were cutting the heads off of bowling pins at ~ 200 meters and decided it was just too easy. I had planned to put better optics on it, but the combo has worked incredibly well, so I plan to leave it as is until the scope dies. [img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/cavblack.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:24:46 AM EDT
Originally Posted By BusMaster007: If you're shooting for a particular PORE on someones face...that scope is PERFECT! [;D]
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Maybe we can shoot that huge zit off of AR_Shorty's face.
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:25:59 AM EDT
You can use it to shave your buddies face at 600 yards.
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:33:08 AM EDT
Originally Posted By MadProfessor: You can use it to shave your buddies face at 600 yards.
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Just be [u]very[/u], [u]very[/u] sure to dope the wind right! [:D]
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:37:43 AM EDT
[/quote] Maybe we can shoot that huge zit off of AR_Shorty's face. [/quote] Boomholzer - I'm glad to see you haven't forgotten about my dilemma. [:)]
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:45:05 AM EDT
Another vote for too little rifle. Slap a 50 BMG under that hunk of glass.
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:47:56 AM EDT
Originally Posted By AR_Shorty:
Maybe we can shoot that huge zit off of AR_Shorty's face.
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Boomholzer - I'm glad to see you haven't forgotten about my dilemma. [:)]
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Hey, I am there for ya bud. Any friend of Sledgehammer is a friend of mine!
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:50:03 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:54:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/13/2003 11:56:31 AM EDT by SigBlueStar]
This may be off topic. But I think the CQT was made to long! with a small obj. Lens. [img]http://members.rogers.com/j.hem/thebest.JPG[/img] Edited: damm picture links !!
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:54:10 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Paul: 1" tube? Looks small. You need one of the coke can tube extensions hung off the end of it. Who cares what it looks like? How does it shoot?
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30mm tube. I doubt I'll ever find out how that particular combo shoots, since I have otherplans for the scope [;)] Coke can? You mean like this? [img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/bvss.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 7:58:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 11:17:29 PM EDT
Try an Unertl, if you can find one. Now Those scopes are Long!
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 6:42:42 AM EDT
aren't flattops and rails wonderful?
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 8:48:39 AM EDT
Originally Posted By California_Kid: Another vote for too little rifle. Slap a 50 BMG under that hunk of glass.
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The ATN scopes might hold up fine on a mouse gun but they have a horrible reputation with 50 shooters. Go over to Biggerhammer.net and ask them what they think.
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 9:25:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/14/2003 9:26:34 AM EDT by Noname]
Originally Posted By Jeep29:
Originally Posted By California_Kid: Another vote for too little rifle. Slap a 50 BMG under that hunk of glass.
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The ATN scopes might hold up fine on a mouse gun but they have a horrible reputation with 50 shooters. Go over to Biggerhammer.net and ask them what they think.
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I had one for a short while. My sales rep took it back and gave me credit. Problems... 1---wouldn't focus worth a fuck at distance. 2---lens coating had numerous runs 3---inner lens had large amount of debris clinging to them. 4---No AO---how do you adj for parallax/focus? 5---ocular when adjusted (just starting to clean up focus but not clear yet) would make the reticle disappear. I see the importers at gunshows so I check out the scopes. Still no improvement in quality (IMHO). The scopes sure do look bitchin tho...! PS---wholesale price was $290.00
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 10:17:44 AM EDT
I can barely read the fine print... Does it say "Property of Mt. Palymar Observatory" on it?
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 11:17:05 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Noname: PS---wholesale price was $290.00
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I traded a board member here for it. He got something he wanted, I got something I was interested in but wasn't willing to spend any money on. [;)]
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 12:04:01 PM EDT
I definately learned the difference between a "decent" scope, and a "not-so-decent" scope... I always told myself: "How much difference COULD there possibly be from one mfg to another ?" The answer is HUGE... I always used cheap optics, thinking they were all alike. I honestly never looked through the ATN scopes, so I really can't comment on them, other than the obvious HUGE factor.[:D] On the other hand, I can comment on the optics used in BSA and Simmons stuff... I never knew what I was missing, until I mounted a Nikon 6.5-20x44 scope on my AR10A4... 300yards is crystal clear with sharp focus at 20x... I think it's very much like a high dollar Leupold, but at half the price.($399) I look through my 45x BSA spotting scope, and see nothing but dark haze...
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 12:41:57 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/14/2003 5:36:42 PM EDT
At least put a .300 Ultra Mag under that scope, it is just a waste on a .223.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 12:42:26 PM EDT
How about this one? [img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/ptr91atn.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 12:45:09 PM EDT
Its The Hubble!
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 12:51:22 PM EDT
How's the cheek weld on that rifle?
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 1:05:09 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Corporal_Chaos: How's the cheek weld on that rifle?
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What cheek weld? [):)] With those extra high rings, there is no cheek weld. I've got a couple sets of lower 30mm rings I'll try before I actually shoot it; if I can't get the scope low enough I'll switch to a smaller scope.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 1:09:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/15/2003 1:11:24 PM EDT by Bob_LA]
Here's one way to deal with your cheek weld dillema on the HK. Use an MSG-90 buttstock: [img]http://www.911products.org/MWR/hk912.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 1:14:36 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 1:50:27 PM EDT
Ok, I got it a bunch lower with these rings, but I'll need to call ATN and see if it's safe to use mounted like this. Cheap lace on pad lets me get a good weld, I ordered an MSG-90 stock about a week ago; hopefully it'll show up eventually. Got a line on a PSG-1 trigger group, and wide forearm and bipod are already ordered. [img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/ptr91atn2.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 3:06:48 PM EDT
[img]www.dimensional.com/~mwluse/long-scope.jpg[/img]
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 3:13:48 PM EDT
LOL Great chop marvl
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