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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:09:31 AM EDT
[#1]
When the scope weighs more than the rifle, I think you have too much scope....[;)]
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:12:55 AM EDT
[#2]
If you're shooting for a particular PORE on someones face...that scope is PERFECT! [;D]
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:15:03 AM EDT
[#3]
Try shooting a moving target with it. Or picking a target up quick with it in a cluttered environment. Target gun only.
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:15:37 AM EDT
[#4]
Perfect for trimming a groundhog's asshair at 600 meters!
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:17:34 AM EDT
[#5]
Have as much scope as you like [BD] The problem with large objective scopes is getting them high enough, then, when you do, you have problems getting a cheek weld (with a rifle that doesn't have an adjustable stock on it) |
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:18:22 AM EDT
[#6]
Nope... bigger.
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:21:14 AM EDT
[#7]
Too little rifle.
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:21:14 AM EDT
[#8]
Hey, what's that thing hanging under your scope?
Oh, I see it now ... it's a carbine. The 6-18x65 would be [i]perfect[/i] for CQB - you can use it to beat the adversary to death, assuming you're strong enough to lift it over your head. Crikey! |
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:22:41 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted: Try shooting a moving target with it. Or picking a target up quick with it in a cluttered environment. Target gun only. You did read the part that says that scope isn't staying on that rifle, right? It's a bit of humor on a day of miserable weather. This is the "reach out and touch someone" AR. Last range trip we were cutting the heads off of bowling pins at ~ 200 meters and decided it was just too easy. I had planned to put better optics on it, but the combo has worked incredibly well, so I plan to leave it as is until the scope dies. [img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/cavblack.jpg[/img] |
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:24:46 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted: If you're shooting for a particular PORE on someones face...that scope is PERFECT! [;D] Maybe we can shoot that huge zit off of AR_Shorty's face. |
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:25:59 AM EDT
[#11]
You can use it to shave your buddies face at 600 yards.
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:33:08 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted: You can use it to shave your buddies face at 600 yards. Just be [u]very[/u], [u]very[/u] sure to dope the wind right! [:D] |
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:37:43 AM EDT
[#13]
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Maybe we can shoot that huge zit off of AR_Shorty's face. [/quote] Boomholzer - I'm glad to see you haven't forgotten about my dilemma. [:)] |
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:45:05 AM EDT
[#14]
Another vote for too little rifle.
Slap a 50 BMG under that hunk of glass. |
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:47:56 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted: Maybe we can shoot that huge zit off of AR_Shorty's face. Boomholzer - I'm glad to see you haven't forgotten about my dilemma. [:)] Hey, I am there for ya bud. Any friend of Sledgehammer is a friend of mine! |
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:50:03 AM EDT
[#16]
1" tube? Looks small.
You need one of the coke can tube extensions hung off the end of it. Who cares what it looks like? How does it shoot? |
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:54:02 AM EDT
[#17]
This may be off topic. But I think the CQT was made to long! with a small obj. Lens. [img]http://members.rogers.com/j.hem/thebest.JPG[/img]
Edited: damm picture links !! |
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:54:10 AM EDT
[#18]
Quoted: 1" tube? Looks small. You need one of the coke can tube extensions hung off the end of it. Who cares what it looks like? How does it shoot? 30mm tube. I doubt I'll ever find out how that particular combo shoots, since I have otherplans for the scope [;)] Coke can? You mean like this? [img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/bvss.jpg[/img] |
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Posted: 6/13/2003 7:58:25 PM EDT
[#19]
Get a real scope
[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/858902/1551961/25067316.jpg[/img] 8-40x56 on an AR10T |
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Posted: 6/13/2003 11:17:29 PM EDT
[#20]
Try an Unertl, if you can find one.
Now Those scopes are Long! |
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Posted: 6/14/2003 6:42:42 AM EDT
[#21]
aren't flattops and rails wonderful?
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Posted: 6/14/2003 8:48:39 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted: Another vote for too little rifle. Slap a 50 BMG under that hunk of glass. The ATN scopes might hold up fine on a mouse gun but they have a horrible reputation with 50 shooters. Go over to Biggerhammer.net and ask them what they think. |
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Posted: 6/14/2003 9:25:30 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted: Quoted: Another vote for too little rifle. Slap a 50 BMG under that hunk of glass. The ATN scopes might hold up fine on a mouse gun but they have a horrible reputation with 50 shooters. Go over to Biggerhammer.net and ask them what they think. I had one for a short while. My sales rep took it back and gave me credit. Problems... 1---wouldn't focus worth a fuck at distance. 2---lens coating had numerous runs 3---inner lens had large amount of debris clinging to them. 4---No AO---how do you adj for parallax/focus? 5---ocular when adjusted (just starting to clean up focus but not clear yet) would make the reticle disappear. I see the importers at gunshows so I check out the scopes. Still no improvement in quality (IMHO). The scopes sure do look bitchin tho...! PS---wholesale price was $290.00 |
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Posted: 6/14/2003 10:17:44 AM EDT
[#24]
I can barely read the fine print...
Does it say "Property of Mt. Palymar Observatory" on it? |
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Posted: 6/14/2003 11:17:05 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted: PS---wholesale price was $290.00 I traded a board member here for it. He got something he wanted, I got something I was interested in but wasn't willing to spend any money on. [;)] |
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Posted: 6/14/2003 12:04:01 PM EDT
[#26]
I definately learned the difference between a "decent" scope, and a "not-so-decent" scope...
I always told myself: "How much difference COULD there possibly be from one mfg to another ?" The answer is HUGE... I always used cheap optics, thinking they were all alike. I honestly never looked through the ATN scopes, so I really can't comment on them, other than the obvious HUGE factor.[:D] On the other hand, I can comment on the optics used in BSA and Simmons stuff... I never knew what I was missing, until I mounted a Nikon 6.5-20x44 scope on my AR10A4... 300yards is crystal clear with sharp focus at 20x... I think it's very much like a high dollar Leupold, but at half the price.($399) I look through my 45x BSA spotting scope, and see nothing but dark haze... |
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Posted: 6/14/2003 12:41:57 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted: I definately learned the difference between a "decent" scope, and a "not-so-decent" scope... I always told myself: "How much difference COULD there possibly be from one mfg to another ?" The answer is HUGE.... The same thing applys to holsters. Once you go to a good one, you will never want a $10-$30 piece of plastic or crappy leather again. As for telescopic optics, I'll buy no more until I have the cash to get a Leupold 3.5-10 M1 or M3. (unless I luck into something better for a similar price) |
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Posted: 6/14/2003 5:36:42 PM EDT
[#28]
At least put a .300 Ultra Mag under that scope, it is just a waste on a .223.
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Posted: 6/15/2003 12:42:26 PM EDT
[#29]
How about this one?
[img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/ptr91atn.jpg[/img] |
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Posted: 6/15/2003 12:45:09 PM EDT
[#30]
Its The Hubble!
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Posted: 6/15/2003 12:51:22 PM EDT
[#31]
How's the cheek weld on that rifle?
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Posted: 6/15/2003 1:05:09 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted: How's the cheek weld on that rifle? What cheek weld? [):)] With those extra high rings, there is no cheek weld. I've got a couple sets of lower 30mm rings I'll try before I actually shoot it; if I can't get the scope low enough I'll switch to a smaller scope. |
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Posted: 6/15/2003 1:09:19 PM EDT
[#33]
Here's one way to deal with your cheek weld dillema on the HK. Use an MSG-90 buttstock:
[img]http://www.911products.org/MWR/hk912.jpg[/img] |
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Posted: 6/15/2003 1:14:36 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted: Its The Hubble! Naw... this is the hubble [img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL77/858902/1551961/20403740.jpg[/img] |
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Posted: 6/15/2003 1:50:27 PM EDT
[#35]
Ok, I got it a bunch lower with these rings, but I'll need to call ATN and see if it's safe to use mounted like this.
Cheap lace on pad lets me get a good weld, I ordered an MSG-90 stock about a week ago; hopefully it'll show up eventually. Got a line on a PSG-1 trigger group, and wide forearm and bipod are already ordered. [img]http://www.supercharger.net/private/ptr91atn2.jpg[/img] |
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Posted: 6/15/2003 3:06:48 PM EDT
[#36]
[img]www.dimensional.com/~mwluse/long-scope.jpg[/img]
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Posted: 6/15/2003 3:13:48 PM EDT
[#37]
LOL Great chop marvl
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