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2/2/2012 1:26:14 PM EDT
Sup guys. I'm thinking about getting a lockpick set. I had made one out of a hairpin and and torque wrench out of a wiper blade.
I was able to open those cheap TSA locks and desk locks at work with it. I opened a Brinks lock one time and then after I couldn't do it again.

I'm thinking of getting something a little better than that

I was thinking about http://]http://www.lockpicks.com/jackknifepickset-fps-7p.aspx
or http://www.lockpicks.com/8piecelockpickset-mpxs-08.aspx

The first one looks like I can toss in my key chain.

What would you guys recommend? Has anyone bought from this site? It says The lock entry tools we offer are not for sale to the general public and are available for sale to professionals only!  All other products are available to the general public. Any other site recommended?

In TN it looks like it's legal to have, just as long as you don't get caught doing anything illegal.

Thanks
2/2/2012 1:28:34 PM EDT
[#1]
I've always heard the only ones who could legally have a set were locksmiths.  I dunno if it's true or not...
2/2/2012 1:30:09 PM EDT
[#2]
Tag
2/2/2012 1:32:29 PM EDT
[#3]
Make your own like you did before..

You understand how things work and I have found that I can make rakes and picks that work for 99% of locks for cheap.

I like to grind L-shaped allen wrenches for torque bar and make the rakes from hacksaw blades or spring steel stock.

None of the picks or rakes I have bought were faster or worked better IMO.
2/2/2012 1:32:30 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
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2/2/2012 1:35:04 PM EDT
[#5]
My Godson asked for one for Christmas and we were all set to get it until his parents gave us a resounding NO.
2/2/2012 1:39:09 PM EDT
[#6]
I bought a set along with a book and learned how to open locks.



I'm not great at it, but it's not rocket science.



Making picks is pretty easy, too. I used sawzall blades for raw material.


 
2/2/2012 1:45:59 PM EDT
[#7]
I used 2 paperclips to make a wrench and a rake and I can open any filing cabinet or desk locks in my office in a few seconds
2/2/2012 1:46:01 PM EDT
[#8]
I've been looking at em too. Defensivedevices.com has a pretty good selection. How to books and Fox 5.3 as well!
2/2/2012 1:50:29 PM EDT
[#9]
I have about $2000 of locksmith tools but I got them all when I bought out a local safe company...  I took 4 classes on locksmithing, and Ill tell you what, its not easy, granted I can get by a Kwikset lock in minutes, but any type of keyed safe/or firebox lock, good luck, I spent an hour on one, I was starting to see crooked, and got no where {but then my father came and opened it in 3 minutes with the same tools}, so its just one of them things, practice...
2/2/2012 1:52:45 PM EDT
[#10]
The lock entry tools we offer are not for sale to the general public and are available for sale to professionals only! All other products are available to the general public.


Southord FTW

but I made mine with hacksaw blades I found on the side of the road. They work great.
2/2/2012 1:53:41 PM EDT
[#11]
That link seems to go to a page for sale?Defensivedevices.com

Looks like most are saying make one and I might do that but if I wanted to take the lazy way out what and where would be a good set to get

If I do decide to make one I may use hacksaw blades. I saw some templates online some place. I'm sure I can dig them back up I don't have a grinder
2/2/2012 1:54:02 PM EDT
[#12]





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I've always heard the only ones who could legally have a set were locksmiths.  I dunno if it's true or not...



In VA it's considered possession of "burglary tools" or something like that, if your occupation doesn't require them.



eta: so mere possession of them is prima facie evidence of intent to commit burglary, robbery, or larceny.





§ 18.2-94. Possession of burglarious tools, etc.





If any person have in his possession any tools, implements or outfit, with
intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny, upon conviction thereof he
shall be guilty of a Class 5 felony. The possession of such burglarious
tools, implements or outfit by any person other than a licensed dealer, shall
be prima facie evidence of an intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny.








 
2/2/2012 1:54:57 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
I have about $2000 of locksmith tools but I got them all when I bought out a local safe company...  I took 4 classes on locksmithing, and Ill tell you what, its not easy, granted I can get by a Kwikset lock in minutes, but any type of keyed safe/or firebox lock, good luck, I spent an hour on one, I was starting to see crooked, and got no where {but then my father came and opened it in 3 minutes with the same tools}, so its just one of them things, practice...


Kwikset should take about 30 seconds.
2/2/2012 1:55:18 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I've always heard the only ones who could legally have a set were locksmiths.  I dunno if it's true or not...


Depends on your state, but basically yes.

VA - Virginia Code of Virginia - Section 18.2-94 - Possession of burglarious tools, etc.If any person have in his possession any tools, implements or outfit, with intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny, upon conviction thereof he shall be guilty of a Class 5 felony. The possession of such burglarious tools, implements or outfit by any person other than a licensed dealer, shall be prima facie evidence of an intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny.
2/2/2012 1:56:58 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I've always heard the only ones who could legally have a set were locksmiths.  I dunno if it's true or not...


Yup.  Here in VA, having a lock-pick set is a crime of "possession of burglarious tools".

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-94
2/2/2012 1:57:55 PM EDT
[#16]
I tried it and couldn't do it worth a shit!

Any fool can do desk drawers and filing cabinets. Anytime one of the secretaries locked herself out of her desk, she would call me, but beyond that, it gets harder.

Even padlocks can be a challenge to pick. Sometimes it's easier to just break something.

I gave up and decided not to become a recreational lock picker.
2/2/2012 2:01:34 PM EDT
[#17]
These arrived yesterday: http://www.southord.com/Lock-Picking-Tools/Outlet-Fourteen-Piece-Lock-Pick-Set-MPXS-14-O.html

So far I've managed to pick a two Master locks (so easy) and two Brinks with spool pins (a little more difficult).

You don't want a jackknife to start with because they provide less feedback.

I now have no faith in locks.  I managed to get the Masterlock open in 3 minutes, and now I can do it in seconds.  Even the Brinks locks I can sometimes do practically instantly, usually takes a few minutes but sometimes I get lucky.
2/2/2012 2:16:05 PM EDT
[#18]
I have the 8 piece set.

After I picked my front door on my house in just a couple of minutes, I went out and changed the lock.
2/2/2012 3:36:13 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I've always heard the only ones who could legally have a set were locksmiths.  I dunno if it's true or not...


Depends on your state, but basically yes.

VA - Virginia Code of Virginia - Section 18.2-94 - Possession of burglarious tools, etc.If any person have in his possession any tools, implements or outfit, with intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny, upon conviction thereof he shall be guilty of a Class 5 felony. The possession of such burglarious tools, implements or outfit by any person other than a licensed dealer, shall be prima facie evidence of an intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny.


Most burglars are idiots and kick in a door or break a window.

any cops here ever write a report on a burglary that involved locks being picked??
2/6/2012 9:10:47 PM EDT
[#20]



Quoted:



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Quoted:

I've always heard the only ones who could legally have a set were locksmiths.  I dunno if it's true or not...




Depends on your state, but basically yes.



VA - Virginia Code of Virginia - Section 18.2-94 - Possession of burglarious tools, etc.If any person have in his possession any tools, implements or outfit, with intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny, upon conviction thereof he shall be guilty of a Class 5 felony. The possession of such burglarious tools, implements or outfit by any person other than a licensed dealer, shall be prima facie evidence of an intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny.




Most burglars are idiots and kick in a door or break a window.



any cops here ever write a report on a burglary that involved locks being picked??


The key part is the last sentence. "The possession of such burglarious tools, implements or outfit by any person other than a licensed dealer, shall be prima facie evidence of an intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny.



So it starts out by saying that it's only illegal to have them if you intend to commit burglary, robbery, or larceny, but then it goes on to say that mere possession is evidence of intent do do just that.



I believe our state law has a similar section regarding brass knuckles, where it's illegal to sell them, not possess them, but it also makes mere possession prima facie evidence of intent to sell.



 
2/6/2012 10:38:33 PM EDT
[#21]
I had to pick a set of handcuffs just the other day with a hair pin.

Lesson learned, do not let a drunk girl anywhere near you if you have the key.


Picking is fun...just remember that TENSION is key.
2/6/2012 10:41:50 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:

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I've always heard the only ones who could legally have a set were locksmiths.  I dunno if it's true or not...


Depends on your state, but basically yes.

VA - Virginia Code of Virginia - Section 18.2-94 - Possession of burglarious tools, etc.If any person have in his possession any tools, implements or outfit, with intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny, upon conviction thereof he shall be guilty of a Class 5 felony. The possession of such burglarious tools, implements or outfit by any person other than a licensed dealer, shall be prima facie evidence of an intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny.


Most burglars are idiots and kick in a door or break a window.

any cops here ever write a report on a burglary that involved locks being picked??

The key part is the last sentence. "The possession of such burglarious tools, implements or outfit by any person other than a licensed dealer, shall be prima facie evidence of an intent to commit burglary, robbery or larceny.

So it starts out by saying that it's only illegal to have them if you intend to commit burglary, robbery, or larceny, but then it goes on to say that mere possession is evidence of intent do do just that.

I believe our state law has a similar section regarding brass knuckles, where it's illegal to sell them, not possess them, but it also makes mere possession prima facie evidence of intent to sell.
 


Same thing with auto knives.


Prima Facie evidence can be rebutted, but I really don't want to risk it.
2/6/2012 10:49:55 PM EDT
[#23]
if they catch you in the back seat trying to pick her locks.....
2/7/2012 1:58:54 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
I have about $2000 of locksmith tools but I got them all when I bought out a local safe company...  I took 4 classes on locksmithing, and Ill tell you what, its not easy, granted I can get by a Kwikset lock in minutes, but any type of keyed safe/or firebox lock, good luck, I spent an hour on one, I was starting to see crooked, and got no where {but then my father came and opened it in 3 minutes with the same tools}, so its just one of them things, practice...


The hardest locks I've found to open so far are automotive. You wouldn't think they would be tough to crack but they are. I've picked pick resistant locks, the kind with the funny shaped pins, some like mushrooms and other similar shapes and those even weren't to bad but every automotive lock I've tried all the pin holes are perfectly aligned and the pins fit so well you need to lift multiple pins at once.
2/7/2012 2:04:18 AM EDT
[#25]



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if they catch you in the back seat trying to pick her locks.....


They're gonna send you back to Mother in a cardboard box!!!



 
2/7/2012 2:10:05 AM EDT
[#26]
2/7/2012 2:58:04 AM EDT
[#27]
I have bought most of mine from lockpicks.com. They have quite the selection and there shipping is really fast. I prefer the ones with the insulated handle it seems to give me something better to grab. Also when you order get a few different styles of tension wrenches because sometimes you get a better grip with the right one.
2/7/2012 3:18:24 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Sup guys. I'm thinking about getting a lockpick set. I had made one out of a hairpin and and torque wrench out of a wiper blade.
I was able to open those cheap TSA locks and desk locks at work with it. I opened a Brinks lock one time and then after I couldn't do it again.

I'm thinking of getting something a little better than that

I was thinking about http://]http://www.lockpicks.com/jackknifepickset-fps-7p.aspx
or http://www.lockpicks.com/8piecelockpickset-mpxs-08.aspx

The first one looks like I can toss in my key chain.

What would you guys recommend? Has anyone bought from this site? It says The lock entry tools we offer are not for sale to the general public and are available for sale to professionals only!  All other products are available to the general public. Any other site recommended?

In TN it looks like it's legal to have, just as long as you don't get caught doing anything illegal.

Thanks


Here's a set for $5.71 delivered.  I've purchased from DealExtreme.  Lots of cool cheap toys from China.  
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/advanced-9-piece-set-lock-picks-16417
2/7/2012 3:26:03 AM EDT
[#29]
I have one of the stupid simple pick and wrench deals that i picked up from Harbor Freight years ago.  A few weeks ago my 2 year old ran into the bedroom and slammed our door shut.  The previous owner had installed a keyed exterior door lock on it.  We did not have the key and I never bothered to swap it out.  

Thank god for the lock pick.  I was sending the wife for the drill and bits when I was able to pick the lock.  

Its not burglary tools, I am training to be a locksmith in my limited spare time
2/7/2012 3:39:57 AM EDT
[#30]
Another +1 for southord.com
2/7/2012 3:55:11 AM EDT
[#31]
I have the southord set and like it.  The jackknife would be too cumbersome.
2/7/2012 4:53:52 AM EDT
[#32]
I worked as a locksmith for a short time after graduating from college, we did most of our purchasing from local companies so I can't really suggest much there.

As others have stated, know your local laws...in some places possession shows intent.

Once you figure that out, get a pick set. You don't need anything spectacular; I would look for something with a couple different tension wrenches. At a minimum you want a medium hook, a half ball, a diamond, and a double diamond. Most will come with a couple of rake picks as well. Get something with a comfy handle.

I would assume you'll be ordering from somewhere that also carries locksmith tools, so order a 'plug follower' as well. This will allow you to take apart and re-assemble pin tumbler locks. This means that you can change the combination of pins inside them without shooting springs and pins everywhere.

Then just go out and buy a knob (I woudl suggest starting with a kwikset) from home depot, and get picking.
2/7/2012 5:22:25 AM EDT
[#33]
http://serepick.com/products.html

Scroll down to the "Bogota "Titan" Entry Toolset".
2/7/2012 11:33:33 AM EDT
[#34]
What's the best way to learn to use these?
2/7/2012 12:33:16 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
What's the best way to learn to use these?


Practice with cheap padlocks and move up from there.