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7/27/2017 2:02:20 PM EDT
Probably for the best.
7/27/2017 2:16:33 PM EDT
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Post whores unite!
7/27/2017 2:19:21 PM EDT
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Serial numbers for what? I missed it.
7/27/2017 2:19:42 PM EDT
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What did I miss? The brought home first felony thread? Clicked and she was gone.
7/27/2017 2:21:55 PM EDT
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1474
7/27/2017 2:22:39 PM EDT
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Quick summary

Guy bought a gun at LGS, LGS thought the patent was serial, guy brought it home saw a painted area and realized no serial number and that the paint was covering scratched off serial. he then brought back to gun shop and got refund and they contacted atf to see if they can find who sold it to them.
7/27/2017 2:26:26 PM EDT
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Guy bought a gun at LGS, LGS thought the patent was serial, guy brought it home saw a painted area and realized no serial number and that the paint was covering scratched off serial. he then brought back to gun shop and got refund and they contacted atf to see if they can find who sold it to them.
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7/27/2017 2:28:54 PM EDT
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I'll take a +1
7/27/2017 2:29:52 PM EDT
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Yup He is the luckiest guy on earth, spent 24 hours with a extremely radioactive federal crime
7/27/2017 2:31:25 PM EDT
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As will I
7/27/2017 2:36:23 PM EDT
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OP hide your dag!
7/27/2017 2:37:37 PM EDT
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Yep.  I was reading that thread, refreshed for an update, and *poof*.  Not really sure why since the OP obviously handled the situation correctly.  Maybe because there were pictures of the firearm?
7/27/2017 2:42:38 PM EDT
[#12]
1 up the post count.

7/27/2017 2:43:56 PM EDT
[#13]
Whatever , fatf
7/27/2017 2:44:37 PM EDT
[#14]
Whoa, hope it doesn't come back to bite him.

Oh, and +1
7/27/2017 2:45:02 PM EDT
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So my question in regards to that thread is whether the OP could have gotten into trouble for that or not? He brought it back once he realized and he was not the one who defaced the firearm. On the other hand, I do understand that he bought it and was in possession. 
7/27/2017 2:45:14 PM EDT
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So a thread where someone did the right thing got nuked?
7/27/2017 2:46:17 PM EDT
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Guy bought a gun at LGS, LGS thought the patent was serial, guy brought it home saw a painted area and realized no serial number and that the paint was covering scratched off serial. he then brought back to gun shop and got refund and they contacted atf to see if they can find who sold it to them.
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7/27/2017 2:46:18 PM EDT
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So my question in regards to that thread is whether the OP could have gotten into trouble for that or not? He brought it back once he realized and he was not the one who defaced the firearm. On the other hand, I do understand that he bought it and was in possession. 
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No court or da would ever push charges based on that.


Now if he saw it and left it in his closet for a week while thinking if he should return it or not, that would make it a different situation.
7/27/2017 2:47:29 PM EDT
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You're  telling me!

I was like OMG.  You are so going to get it in the prison showers.

Somehow I missed the part where he took it back.   That was definitely for the best.
7/27/2017 2:48:48 PM EDT
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Does a FFL leave the SN blank on the 4473 if its an old gun without one? I bought a 60's 22 recently without a SN. I didnt think to ask them.
7/27/2017 2:49:30 PM EDT
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Does a FFL leave the SN blank on the 4473 if its an old gun without one? I bought a 60's 22 recently without a SN. I didnt think to ask them.
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I believe ve so.
7/27/2017 2:52:48 PM EDT
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No court or da would ever push charges based on that.


Now if he saw it and left it in his closet for a week while thinking if he should return it or not, that would make it a different situation.
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So my question in regards to that thread is whether the OP could have gotten into trouble for that or not? He brought it back once he realized and he was not the one who defaced the firearm. On the other hand, I do understand that he bought it and was in possession. 
No court or da would ever push charges based on that.


Now if he saw it and left it in his closet for a week while thinking if he should return it or not, that would make it a different situation.
My question is how things would be handled if the OP hadn't known any better and thought the patent # was the serial # based on the gun shop's handling of it.
7/27/2017 2:53:54 PM EDT
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So a thread where someone did the right thing got nuked?
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7/27/2017 2:57:13 PM EDT
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Sounds like it was an interesting thread. I'd like to know more about the situation.
7/27/2017 2:59:41 PM EDT
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I thought it was interesting.

The ATF is not going to charge someone who bought a gun legally that was fucked with.
7/27/2017 3:01:37 PM EDT
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I'd imagine that the shop would be a hell of alot more culpable then the buyer.

After all they should know what they are doing.
7/27/2017 3:03:23 PM EDT
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Chili sounds good! +1

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7/27/2017 3:14:36 PM EDT
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Chili with beans?

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7/27/2017 3:15:06 PM EDT
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+1 on the beans
7/27/2017 3:16:19 PM EDT
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It's not chili without beans! Lots and lots of beans!
7/27/2017 3:20:12 PM EDT
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7/27/2017 3:25:45 PM EDT
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I thought it was interesting.

The ATF is not going to charge someone who bought a gun legally that was fucked with.
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lol!
7/27/2017 3:27:32 PM EDT
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Post whore +1
7/27/2017 3:28:32 PM EDT
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7/27/2017 3:29:56 PM EDT
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Big brown had nothing to do with it.
7/27/2017 3:34:49 PM EDT
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Does a FFL leave the SN blank on the 4473 if its an old gun without one? I bought a 60's 22 recently without a SN. I didnt think to ask them.
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"NSN"

No Serial Number
7/27/2017 3:37:15 PM EDT
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I'd imagine that the shop would be a hell of alot more culpable then the buyer.

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I have seen a Mauser rifle w/ three (3) legitimate serial numbers.

Original manufacturer,  rework s/n by country of ownership,  dot matrix s/n now required by ATF for import.

Any one of those could be entered properly in the FFL's bound book and on the 4473.  It is their judgement as to which to use.
7/27/2017 3:50:13 PM EDT
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I stopped serializing shit 
7/27/2017 4:08:13 PM EDT
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Wait a minute....a gun was bought?  
7/27/2017 4:14:46 PM EDT
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Damn it I was going to catch up on that thread later. Fuck my job for being in the way of quality arfcom time.
7/27/2017 6:36:13 PM EDT
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It happens.
7/27/2017 6:39:27 PM EDT
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No way!
7/27/2017 9:23:12 PM EDT
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Yeah, I woke up and the thread was completely gone.
7/27/2017 9:26:39 PM EDT
[#44]
Dammit!
I
7/27/2017 9:28:30 PM EDT
[#45]
I'm just here for the fun.
7/27/2017 9:37:03 PM EDT
[#46]
Post count, for the children.
7/27/2017 9:39:53 PM EDT
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No court or da would ever push charges based on that.
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The police would ever enforce such an unconstitutional law as the SAFE Act.
7/27/2017 9:43:40 PM EDT
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Post count, for the children.
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7/27/2017 9:56:31 PM EDT
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I believe ve so.
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Does a FFL leave the SN blank on the 4473 if its an old gun without one? I bought a 60's 22 recently without a SN. I didnt think to ask them.
I believe ve so.
No, at least not at our shops. We write NSN - No Serial Number. I've only come across one shotgun in the last 11 months with no discernible serial number.

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7/27/2017 9:59:03 PM EDT
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I've only come across one shotgun in the last 11 months with no discernible serial number
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I just picked up a Winchester 67 last week that had no serial number...
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