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Posted: 10/7/2007 9:02:32 AM EST
I would have thought this was required viewing for Arfcomm. What say the hive?
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:04:53 AM EST
Fuck that noise
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:08:44 AM EST
Pass....
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:22:04 AM EST
As long as you don't dwell on Cruise's psychosis in the real world, it's a good flick. Great swordfight scenes, and even original gatling guns.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:23:19 AM EST
It was so good Cruise couldn't even destroy it.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:24:05 AM EST
It was an ok movie.
Not required Arfcom viewing in my book.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:24:43 AM EST
Tom Cruise is still a fruitcake, but it wasn't a bad movie.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:27:56 AM EST
Dances With Wolves: Far East version.


It was ok. Had some decent Gatling action.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:29:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/7/2007 9:29:14 AM EST by FudgieGhost1]
I cannot watch anything (ok, except Risky Business) with Tom Cruise in it.


All I can see is him. . . . . acting.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:29:09 AM EST
Gay.

They should have made Joseph Stalin, the Last Marine.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:29:44 AM EST
The Twilight Samurai was in it.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:31:03 AM EST
If I never watch that movie again I would be cool with it.

I was stationed at an alert facility and we got that movie thru the Navy on 8mm tape. Every fucking time some pilot switched out missions all you hear over the intercom "Now playing in the Anny theatre Samurai" For a fucking month that was the only movie anyone played. /stab
F that movie
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:31:19 AM EST
it's worth watching but not owning.
there are a lot of movies like that out.
which is why i have HBO and Skinamax
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:32:23 AM EST

Originally Posted By IronKnight:
Dances With Wolves: Far East version.


It was ok. Had some decent Gatling action.


This is the story that Dances with wolves was based on, This version was just made later.

Same as the Seven Samuri movies.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:33:05 AM EST
i liked the movie, but still doesn't change the fact that tom is a tool
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:34:49 AM EST

Originally Posted By DragoMuseveni:
It was an ok movie.
Not required Arfcom viewing in my book.


Someone should get a list of ARfcom required viewing going.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:34:51 AM EST
great movie, one of my favorites
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:38:25 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/7/2007 9:38:41 AM EST by Spongehead]

Originally Posted By IronKnight:
Dances With Wolves: Far East version.


It was ok. Had some decent Gatling action.



+1
Should have been named "Dances with Samurai"
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:41:13 AM EST
Good movie but not requirement material.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:41:46 AM EST
If you pay attention, it speaks to some of the stress that comes from war. At least that is what I take from some of it.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:43:31 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:44:58 AM EST
The story is utter bullshit. The Samurai in question existed, but to show his power and to reverence to tradition he went to a village, lined up all the men, and decapitated them. Good old Hollywood didn't want to show that.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 9:45:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By threefeathers:
The story is utter bullshit. The Samurai in question existed, but to show his power and to reverence to tradition he went to a village, lined up all the men, and decapitated them. Good old Hollywood didn't want to show that.


Who is "he"?
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 1:26:12 PM EST
Here are my observations:

- No wonder Tom Cruise played a despondent drunk. I would too if I let Nicole Kidman get away.

- Ken Watanabe made the movie. Anybody could have played Tom Cruise's role.

- Overall a good movie, in spite of Tom "I'm-so-cute" Cruise.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 1:57:08 PM EST
Tom is a tool, and seems to do his best to ruin movies and Hot womenz (though thankfully the latter for the most part escape before he really buggers them up)


I own the movie though, enjoy it, it is not historically accurate (and eys I was one of those bitching the same thing about 300 )
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 2:01:05 PM EST
For a much better movie about the same period in history, watch "Twilight Samurai", which oddly starred one of the main actors from Cruise's "Dances With Samurai".
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 2:02:23 PM EST
I liked it.

cruise is a dipshot but Ken Watanbe stole that movie anyway. Cruise was the supporting actor in that one.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 2:03:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By DigDug:
It was so good Cruise couldn't even destroy it.

LoL so true.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 2:06:31 PM EST

Originally Posted By swingset:
For a much better movie about the same period in history, watch "Twilight Samurai", which oddly starred one of the main actors from Cruise's "Dances With Samurai".


If given a choice between The Twilight Samurai and The Hidden Blade, pick Twilight Samurai. It's the same movie, only better.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 2:16:49 PM EST
Tom Cruise s undoubtedly a fruitcake, but I like most of his movies and I think he is usually a really good actor.

I can seperate my personal opinions about how artists are in real life from my appreciation of their work. You have to if you have any genuine appreciation for a wide variety of music or any other kinds of artistic expressions...because...let's face it...a lot of artists are at least a little bit batshit crazy.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 2:19:46 PM EST

Originally Posted By IronKnight:
Dances With Wolves: Far East version.


...


Exactly. "Dances with Samurai" is what I call it.

Typical Hollywood "white european society is evil, every other culture is beautiful and elegant" bullshit.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 2:21:03 PM EST
It ain't no ZULU!
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 2:22:25 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/7/2007 2:23:15 PM EST by Bohr_Adam]

Originally Posted By DigDug:

Originally Posted By threefeathers:
The story is utter bullshit. The Samurai in question existed, but to show his power and to reverence to tradition he went to a village, lined up all the men, and decapitated them. Good old Hollywood didn't want to show that.


Who is "he"?


"He" as in the Samurai in general - a privileged class that lived off the toils of the peasants.

You would think a Hollywood so enamored with Communism wouldn't also be so enamored with the Samurai.

Oh well - it makes sense as long as you remember, US culture = Bad, everything else, = good.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 2:22:56 PM EST

Originally Posted By Brohawk:
Here are my observations:

- No wonder Tom Cruise played a despondent drunk. I would too if I let Nicole Kidman get away.

- Ken Watanabe made the movie. Anybody could have played Tom Cruise's role.
- Overall a good movie, in spite of Tom "I'm-so-cute" Cruise.


Chuck Norris would have been great in that part... But he would have kicked Mr Samurai's butt.

Really, I liked the movie. But Cruise had no part in making it worth seeing.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 3:58:23 PM EST
I liked Koyuki who played Taka.

Many of the Japanese actors are A-list in Japan.

I feel the movie was okay.
Link Posted: 10/7/2007 4:01:32 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 8:06:08 AM EST
Like it alot!! But did it really happen that way?
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 8:10:06 AM EST
Would have been better without Tom Cruise. Billy Conelly was the shit!
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 8:12:29 AM EST
with Tom Selleck in the lead role it would be in my top 20 list

with fruitbat in the lead it was a good story but like so many movies, made me wish for what might of been
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 12:16:25 PM EST

Originally Posted By BillTheButcher:
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men with 1871 mausers & gatling guns vs. men with swords and arrows, spears
From another thread here at ARFCOM GD, someone actually said, they were close but not exact for that time period.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 12:18:00 PM EST

No, Tom Cruise is a loon teh ghey.


Fixed.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 12:19:08 PM EST
It's good. About the death of honor in combat due to firearms.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 12:28:57 PM EST

Originally Posted By Brohawk:
Here are my observations:

- No wonder Tom Cruise played a despondent drunk. I would too if I let Nicole Kidman get away.

- Ken Watanabe made the movie. Anybody could have played Tom Cruise's role.

- Overall a good movie, in spite of Tom "I'm-so-cute" Cruise.


That's a good summary right there.

I didn't like the movie. It seemed too much like Dances with Wolves in Japan.

Plus, killing them all off in the end was lame. Two thumbs down.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 12:31:00 PM EST
nope: just one of the dozens of anti-caucasion flicks to make us feel bad about ourselves.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 12:37:11 PM EST
I caught it on Satellite.

*bleh*


out of


on a rating which would put you to sleep.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 12:39:57 PM EST
Samurai Delicatessen was much better.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 12:40:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By Zippy_The_Wonderdog:
Tom Cruise is undoubtedly a fruitcake, but I like most of his movies and I think he is usually a really good actor.

I can separate my personal opinions about how artists are in real life from my appreciation of their work. You have to if you have any genuine appreciation for a wide variety of music or any other kinds of artistic expressions...because...let's face it...a lot of artists are at least a little bit batshit crazy.


big +1
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 12:45:17 PM EST
It was a very pretty film. The costuming was FANTASTIC. I guess I dont buy the whole 'white guy as a Samauri' bit - but it was based on a real story (right?)

I dont think it is REQUIRED. But its ok.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 12:58:09 PM EST
Pretty good movie.
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 1:03:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/8/2007 1:05:50 PM EST by JackBurton]
I like it.

However, not an ARfcom must view.

Heat, Evil Dead, Army of Darkness, Red Dawn... those are ARfcom must views!
Link Posted: 10/8/2007 1:03:29 PM EST
I like the scene when Tom Cruise was selling Winchester rifles in San Francisco, I remember seeing an old cable / trolley car going up the hill in the back ground?

back in 1876 I think they were still using horses to pull trolley cars?
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