Posted: 8/6/2013 10:27:43 AM EDT
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Damn, of all places for a train derailment!
The Tehachapi Loop is on the main railroad line that climbs up the mountains from Bakersfield (Elevation of about 400 feet) to the Tehachapi Pass (About 4000 feet) Tehachapi Loop |
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it's still fucking novel. also, that's gonna fuck up traffic all over the place Quoted:
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The grade was too steep to make the rail straight so they looped it around on itself. I guess at the time it was a novel idea. it's still fucking novel. also, that's gonna fuck up traffic all over the place With the jumps in technology they still don't have a better solution? |
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Damn, of all places for a train derailment! The Tehachapi Loop is on the main railroad line that climbs up the mountains from Bakersfield (Elevation of about 400 feet) to the Tehachapi Pass (About 4000 feet) Tehachapi Loop I believe it's one of only two places in the world where the train actually loops over itself if it's long enough. In this case about 6,000 feet? |
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The grade was too steep to make the rail straight so they looped it around on itself. I guess at the time it was a novel idea. it's still fucking novel. also, that's gonna fuck up traffic all over the place With the jumps in technology they still don't have a better solution? There are only three solutions for a grade: over, under, or around. They chose to go over this one in shocking fashion. I guess with TBMs we'll see more tunnels, but ecotards will whine about it. |
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<scotty>You cannae change the laws of physics!</scotty> Quoted:
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With the jumps in technology they still don't have a better solution? <scotty>You cannae change the laws of physics!</scotty> But I'm a photographer NightFAL, and I failed out of math. (In my best bones impersonation.) 
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Quoted: The grade was too steep to make the rail straight so they looped it around on itself. I guess at the time it was a novel idea. In Lawyer's Canyon, Idaho, (where Break heart Pass was filmed), the track loops 2 times around the mountain....and has some sections of the 'corkscrew' running through 6 tunnels in the mountain. It takes trains from the Camas Prairie at 3390' down to the Snake River plateau at 805' around Lewiston. In twelve miles it climbs over 2000'. The 882-foot Tunnel 1, with one portal visible just above Highway 95, was the most difficult and dangerous to build. If you enter, you'll quickly see that the proverbial "light at the end of the tunnel" is not visible because the tracks make a full horseshoe bend inside the mountain, allowing the trains to start their climb up the hillside. There are also 18 trestles, 13 of them in one 5 mile stretch. It's quite an engineering feat considering it was done early last century.  http://preservationidaho.org/blog/nancy-foster-renk/camas-prairie-railroad |
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No one was hurt. That's not all the cars. That's just what we left behind.  Quoted:
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I don't know what that word means or where that is, but it looks like it sucks. Hope no one was hurt. No one was hurt. That's not all the cars. That's just what we left behind. How long does it take to clean a mess like that up? |
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How long does it take to clean a mess like that up? Quoted:
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I don't know what that word means or where that is, but it looks like it sucks. Hope no one was hurt. No one was hurt. That's not all the cars. That's just what we left behind. How long does it take to clean a mess like that up? Well depends. those cars have been there for months. They are cutting those up and hauling them out as scrap. Most important is to get the mainline open. |
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With a busy pass and a problem, do you end up with a string of trains parked and waiting? This is a very busy pass, carrying produce east from the San Joaquin Valley to the east coast. You'll likely be eating stuff that traversed this section today. Also, the cowboy tells me the cars are empty, and have been there for a month. |
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Is that Ceaser Chavez's old place? I know it's in the area there. Quoted:
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Hmm, wonder what is in those auto-racks? TR I'm on Loop Ranch now, I'll take a look later. Is that Ceaser Chavez's old place? I know it's in the area there. No, Loop Ranch is 50,000 acres between Bakersfield and Tehachapi. Chavez had the old TB hospital in Keene. It's a National Historic Landmark or some such now. |
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Is that Ceaser Chavez's old place? I know it's in the area there. Quoted:
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Hmm, wonder what is in those auto-racks? TR I'm on Loop Ranch now, I'll take a look later. Is that Ceaser Chavez's old place? I know it's in the area there. No, Loop Ranch is 50,000 acres between Bakersfield and Tehachapi. Chavez had the old TB hospital in Keene. It's a National Historic Landmark or some such now. |
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No, Loop Ranch is 50,000 acres between Bakersfield and Tehachapi. Chavez had the old TB hospital in Keene. It's a National Historic Landmark or some such now. Quoted:
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Hmm, wonder what is in those auto-racks? TR I'm on Loop Ranch now, I'll take a look later. Is that Ceaser Chavez's old place? I know it's in the area there. No, Loop Ranch is 50,000 acres between Bakersfield and Tehachapi. Chavez had the old TB hospital in Keene. It's a National Historic Landmark or some such now. Not tejon anymore? |
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yep, we work around the clock to get the line open. Quoted:
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With a busy pass and a problem, do you end up with a string of trains parked and waiting? yep, we work around the clock to get the line open. Derails make me glad I'm in Signal and we have Hours of Service pretty much limiting us to 12 hours, or 16 in a rare situation. Poor track guys have to work till the line is back in service... |
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I believe it's one of only two places in the world where the train actually loops over itself if it's long enough. In this case about 6,000 feet? Quoted:
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Damn, of all places for a train derailment! The Tehachapi Loop is on the main railroad line that climbs up the mountains from Bakersfield (Elevation of about 400 feet) to the Tehachapi Pass (About 4000 feet) Tehachapi Loop I believe it's one of only two places in the world where the train actually loops over itself if it's long enough. In this case about 6,000 feet? Tehachapi Loop, or as a friend used to call it "God's model railroad layout." There's an amazing model railroad copy at one of the southern California railroad clubs. There are other loops in the US; Williams Loop in northern California, Georgetown Loop in Colorado and Etowah Loop in Georgia come to mind. I seem to recall one built in WV or KY to replace an over/under switchback within the past couple of decades, but I can't be sure. But Tehachapi is certainly the most famous. Must be the closeness to Hollywood and how they used to film movies at locations from Bakersfield to LA going over Tehachapi and down Soledad Canyon west of Palmdale. IIRC the Frank Sinatra movie Suddenly was filmed, or had the railroad scenes filmed, along the Tehachapi line. |
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Derails make me glad I'm in Signal and we have Hours of Service pretty much limiting us to 12 hours, or 16 in a rare situation. Poor track guys have to work till the line is back in service... Quoted:
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With a busy pass and a problem, do you end up with a string of trains parked and waiting? yep, we work around the clock to get the line open. Derails make me glad I'm in Signal and we have Hours of Service pretty much limiting us to 12 hours, or 16 in a rare situation. Poor track guys have to work till the line is back in service... I'm Car Department. We have HOS too. We still have to stay until all the cars are off the rail or back on the rail.
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