Posted: 6/17/2025 8:22:54 AM EDT
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Not a pilot, just a guy who will be using bush planes in Canada and AK, to get to wild places in the next year. My understanding is that something changed rules wise, and now an Air Worthiness letter/cert needs to issued for every individual canoe that would be mounted on a plane? Not just a model, and thus it pretty much ended the practice? I'm not wanting to spend the money on a folding canoe, I read Coming into the Country, and they issues they had on Alaskan rivers. Granted there is 40 years of progress with folding boats, but I've got 4 canoes already, don't want to buy another unless its a wood/canvas.....But if that is the case, I suppose it's just the cost of doing business. Any chance that there will be a rule change? |
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It's not specific to the canoe, as far as I know. Certain planes, like Beavers, have external load racks that are approved on their type certificate. I would say that you would need to talk to the individual operator to see what they are approved and willing to carry. Insurance comes into play, I'm sure. |
9 lives - 9 pellets... Coincidence?
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Huge difference in what you can hire someone to haul vs what the locals haul with their own airplanes. Just FYI if you've seen or heard of people doing things yet you can't find anybody to do it. ((( Insert GIF of ATF guys behind bushes, but change their hat to read "FAA" ))) |
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Originally Posted By delorean: Huge difference in what you can hire someone to haul vs what the locals haul with their own airplanes. Just FYI if you've seen or heard of people doing things yet you can't find anybody to do it. ((( Insert GIF of ATF guys behind bushes, but change their hat to read "FAA" ))) No, I saw a specific post from a company that said because the FAA changed their rules, and Canada follows suit that the practice was now banned. The “fix” im sure was to use their 5K per person show up with only socks and skivies, we handle the rest, we guide service. |
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Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0: No, I saw a specific post from a company that said because the FAA changed their rules, and Canada follows suit that the practice was now banned. The “fix” im sure was to use their 5K per person show up with only socks and skivies, we handle the rest, we guide service. Originally Posted By PSYWAR1-0: Originally Posted By delorean: Huge difference in what you can hire someone to haul vs what the locals haul with their own airplanes. Just FYI if you've seen or heard of people doing things yet you can't find anybody to do it. ((( Insert GIF of ATF guys behind bushes, but change their hat to read "FAA" ))) No, I saw a specific post from a company that said because the FAA changed their rules, and Canada follows suit that the practice was now banned. The “fix” im sure was to use their 5K per person show up with only socks and skivies, we handle the rest, we guide service. Like a said, there are certain aircraft that are approved with cargo racks. In the lower 48, you can't just strap a boat to a plane, but Alaska has some special allowances. Things like that can have local faa approval. The only way you'll ever be certain of the correct answer to your question is to call the outfit your're interested in using. |
9 lives - 9 pellets... Coincidence?
| An instructor at the A&P school I went to showed me a picture of his Cessna seaplane in Fairbanks with friggin couch strapped to it. He said you wouldn't believe what people have done up there...... like the Beverly Hillbilly's truck style. Basically , if you can get it off the water and keep it straight, good to go! Wild. |
Not a pilot and damn sure not an airplane designer, but the fishing lodge I visited in Canada way back in the 90's had a dozen 14' Jon boats with 9.9 HP Mercury motors. Since EVERYTHING from people to toilet paper came by air, they had to get them there on a float plane somehow. 
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Originally Posted By delorean: An instructor at the A&P school I went to showed me a picture of his Cessna seaplane in Fairbanks with friggin couch strapped to it. He said you wouldn't believe what people have done up there...... like the Beverly Hillbilly's truck style. Basically , if you can get it off the water and keep it straight, good to go! Wild. Doing it commercially has an extra set of problems. Even if it's permitted by the FAA, it would be on a case by case basis, with proper paperwork. It's not an insignificant thing to tie a load out in the wind. Just because they can, doesn't mean they will. |
9 lives - 9 pellets... Coincidence?
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Originally Posted By John-in-austin: Not a pilot and damn sure not an airplane designer, but the fishing lodge I visited in Canada way back in the 90's had a dozen 14' Jon boats with 9.9 HP Mercury motors. Since EVERYTHING from people to toilet paper came by air, they had to get them there on a float plane somehow. There are some big float planes in service out there. For example a DeHavilland Twin Otter in cargo config could easily handle a few 14 foot aluminum jon boats and their outboards, carried internally, and carry a lot more to boot.  HBF, inc still operates a DC3 on floats, though I think it's the only one.  |
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