Sig resuming P320 marketing (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 9/9/2026 12:26:19 PM EDT
I guess they think the time’s right and the ill wind has blown over. I just got an email from Sig for the P320. 
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Originally Posted By rifleman2000: Have they fixed the gun? They've quitetly made some changes to the sear spring rates, though I think the problem was the sear itself; theres a video thats been posted before about chopping the sear leg, which I've also done on my personal M17, and it seems to pass all of the known tests, though I still don't trust it enough to carry it beyond being a fun range toy....all the negative press let me get mine at a bargain price even though the Mil models still commanded a premium |
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Sig needs to remember to treat the gun community like a woman. Women do not like being straight out told they were wrong, they will also never apologize nor admit they were wrong. It is already evident in this thread. Gonna be tough for sig, but maybe they learned from their PR bungling, maybe… |
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Originally Posted By tgmr05: Sig needs to remember to treat the gun community like a woman. Women do not like being straight out told they were wrong, they will also never apologize nor admit they were wrong. It is already evident in this thread. Gonna be tough for sig, but maybe they learned from their PR bungling, maybe… lol |
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Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ: They've quitetly made some changes to the sear spring rates, though I think the problem was the sear itself; theres a video thats been posted before about chopping the sear leg, which I've also done on my personal M17, and it seems to pass all of the known tests, though I still don't trust it enough to carry it beyond being a fun range toy....all the negative press let me get mine at a bargain price even though the Mil models still commanded a premium Photos of chopped sear leg please? Not trolling. Genuinely curious. |
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Originally Posted By NachoDip: Photos of chopped sear leg please? Not trolling. Genuinely curious. Attached File and for comparison, the original "fix" for the drop safety issue did not include the leg, many think the leg was added later as an additional safety measure to stop trigger bar movement, but it appears that this may have inadvertantly caused the difficult to diagnose discharge issues it's had. To me it makes sense that if you have an open space that allows debris to enter the sear channel, and the sear is directly pressing on the trigger bar, that this is why we are seeing these discharges on guns that are carried often but shot little. Attached File |
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| The Fiscal Year is coming to a close. Perhaps their Marketing department needs to spend their ad funding before the FY26 comes to an end, to avoid losing budget/funding in 2027. This may have nothing to do with the gun, and everything to do with somebody's Marketing Department Kingdom at Sig |
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Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/388771/sear_chop_jpg-3824777.JPG and for comparison, the original "fix" for the drop safety issue did not include the leg, many think the leg was added later as an additional safety measure to stop trigger bar movement, but it appears that this may have inadvertantly caused the difficult to diagnose discharge issues it's had. To me it makes sense that if you have an open space that allows debris to enter the sear channel, and the sear is directly pressing on the trigger bar, that this is why we are seeing these discharges on guns that are carried often but shot little. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/388771/sear_chop_5_jpg-3824784.JPG Interesting. My theory was in a similar area and was comparing the drop off for the striker and debris. Intintentionally going down the carried often and rarely cleaned path as well. |
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Originally Posted By Orion10182011: It don't matter, its toxic at this point. Change the looks and model number and try again. Even if there is nothing wrong with the guns they are producing now, the name "320" stinks like fresh dogshit due to its problems, and has for quite a while. Why they want to continue to try and convince everyone it smells like vanilla ice cream is beyond me. |
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Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ: They've quitetly made some changes to the sear spring rates, though I think the problem was the sear itself; theres a video thats been posted before about chopping the sear leg, which I've also done on my personal M17, and it seems to pass all of the known tests, though I still don't trust it enough to carry it beyond being a fun range toy....all the negative press let me get mine at a bargain price even though the Mil models still commanded a premium Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ: Originally Posted By rifleman2000: Have they fixed the gun? They've quitetly made some changes to the sear spring rates, though I think the problem was the sear itself; theres a video thats been posted before about chopping the sear leg, which I've also done on my personal M17, and it seems to pass all of the known tests, though I still don't trust it enough to carry it beyond being a fun range toy....all the negative press let me get mine at a bargain price even though the Mil models still commanded a premium If the gun has a thumb safety, I can tell you from recent experience that they completely redesigned that part too, without updating any of their documentation or providing instructions on its use. Just a typically mid-stream change from Sig. |
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Originally Posted By tgmr05: Sig needs to remember to treat the gun community like a woman. Women do not like being straight out told they were wrong, they will also never apologize nor admit they were wrong. It is already evident in this thread. Gonna be tough for sig, but maybe they learned from their PR bungling, maybe… Sig IS the woman in this case. They're a victim of their own creation. |
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Originally Posted By broken_reticle: Another Cohen Catastrophe. Should have at least called it the P320.2 or something. Years ago, a guy told me that he had bought a new high-end Mercedes and it turned out to have a lot of problems. So, he sold/traded it and bought another of the same model. Fool me once.......... |
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Originally Posted By piperpa24: If John Browning thought a striker fired gun was better than a hammer fired gun we would have designed his that way. The Prophet John Moses Browning (PBUH) brought his people to the 1911 and the .45. He also brought forward the HiPower for the weakest among us who needed a 9mm. So sayeth The Lord. |
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Originally Posted By oulufinn: Sig IS the woman in this case. They're a victim of their own creation. Originally Posted By oulufinn: Originally Posted By tgmr05: Sig needs to remember to treat the gun community like a woman. Women do not like being straight out told they were wrong, they will also never apologize nor admit they were wrong. It is already evident in this thread. Gonna be tough for sig, but maybe they learned from their PR bungling, maybe… Sig IS the woman in this case. They're a victim of their own creation. There is a correlation concerning accountability. |
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Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/388771/sear_chop_jpg-3824777.JPG and for comparison, the original "fix" for the drop safety issue did not include the leg, many think the leg was added later as an additional safety measure to stop trigger bar movement, but it appears that this may have inadvertantly caused the difficult to diagnose discharge issues it's had. To me it makes sense that if you have an open space that allows debris to enter the sear channel, and the sear is directly pressing on the trigger bar, that this is why we are seeing these discharges on guns that are carried often but shot little. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/388771/sear_chop_5_jpg-3824784.JPG The sear shown as just a sear doesn’t match either of the sears below. How many sears are there? |
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Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/388771/sear_chop_jpg-3824777.JPG and for comparison, the original "fix" for the drop safety issue did not include the leg, many think the leg was added later as an additional safety measure to stop trigger bar movement, but it appears that this may have inadvertantly caused the difficult to diagnose discharge issues it's had. To me it makes sense that if you have an open space that allows debris to enter the sear channel, and the sear is directly pressing on the trigger bar, that this is why we are seeing these discharges on guns that are carried often but shot little. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/388771/sear_chop_5_jpg-3824784.JPG Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ: Originally Posted By NachoDip: Photos of chopped sear leg please? Not trolling. Genuinely curious. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/388771/sear_chop_jpg-3824777.JPG and for comparison, the original "fix" for the drop safety issue did not include the leg, many think the leg was added later as an additional safety measure to stop trigger bar movement, but it appears that this may have inadvertantly caused the difficult to diagnose discharge issues it's had. To me it makes sense that if you have an open space that allows debris to enter the sear channel, and the sear is directly pressing on the trigger bar, that this is why we are seeing these discharges on guns that are carried often but shot little. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/388771/sear_chop_5_jpg-3824784.JPG Cutting off that leg would prevent the trigger bar back-feeding issue, but that's only one of about four different known failure modes for the P320's striker safety, and it doesn't address the problems with the sear design. We know how to fix the P320. The answers are under the hood of the P365. |
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The 320 is very inexpensive to produce and very profitable, therefor they do not want to stop production. All the tooling was made so its not to smart to scrap the project. With how they handled the screw up, I for one will never buy anything sig unless it says MADE IN GERMANY. I had several 320 and sold them all when all this went down. Sig USA sucks. |
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Originally Posted By konger: It’s like Ford bringing the Pinto back after they lost lawsuits. Right or wrong, it’s time for SIG to move on and drop the P320 from the lineup and hope gun enthusiasts completely forget it ever existed. They could call it the P321. Legit. |
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Originally Posted By rifleman2000: Yeah, I don't think I'll ever own a Sig 320. I'm kind of over the brand, sadly, they used to be one of my favorites, especially in contrast to H&K "too good for civilians." I like their 22x series, and I even like some of their rifles. Too bad. I really like metal Sigs. All of them. |
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May many phucks be upon SIG-USA and Cohen. Nothing like the original San-Swiss. I have no SIG pistols that dont say Made in W. Germany or Germany. Striker fired pistols without a safety dongle or thumb safety that precludes uncomanded trigger movement is as dumb as 2 cousins phukn. |
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Originally Posted By GenYRevolverGuy: I thought we'd have the "P385" (P320 size P365) by now. The 320 is not going anywhere until the government contracts are exhausted. Sig is known to randomly drop support of weapons and change to something else (Sig556) but until the DoW does another pistol evaluation the P320 will be around for a while. I took delivery of P320's in 2015 through 2019. Sig replaced 450 of the current pistol with the upgraded model in 2018. Every batch of 200 had slight changes in the triggers, MIM parts to stamped, slide lightening cuts didn't exist then were round then slotted, and at least three different types of magazine floor plates. Then there was the whole upgrade design. Glock changed their packaging from the Gen2 to Gen3 because so many people were firing a live round when forcing the pistol in the box. Half the people complaining about the P320 weren't old enough to even know about the untold number of Glock negligent discharges. I was in the USMC when we went from the 1911 to the Beretta 92 and people especially commands bitched and moaned when they learned the Beretta was suppose to be carried with a round in the chamber. The SEALs were shooting hot SMG ammo through their pistols and cracked the frames and launched a slide. I must have heard that story repeated a dozen time in the chow hall. Times really haven't changed. |
| I have my two 320s on the market but have little confidence I can sell them. One shop stopped selling 320s all together and wont take trade ins or buy. Another shop wont allow them to be shot on their range. I dumped a lot of money into these guns with modules, mags, dots, etc. Now they are in the safe as they cant be trusted as paper weights. |
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