Posted: 9/12/2016 6:21:28 PM EDT
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Secret Service confined the embedded protective press pool when hillary was going down at the 911 memorial. They were held for 90 minutes and not allowed to leave as per Fox news. Asked if they could have went out alone and take their own mode (taxi, bus, whatever) she said no (jennifer griffin) How the fuck can the press pool be held against their will like that? |
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Secret Service confined the embedded protective press pool when hillary was going down at the 911 memorial.They were held for 90 minutes and not allowed to leave as per Fox news. Asked if they could have went out alone and take their own mode (taxi, bus, whatever) she said no (jennifer griffin) How the fuck can the press pool be held against their will like that? rules are for peasants . . . |
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Quoted: What does this mean? Quoted: Quoted: ... Asked if they could have went out alone and take their own mode (taxi, bus, whatever) she said no (jennifer griffin) ... What does this mean? |
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Secret Service confined the embedded protective press pool when hillary was going down at the 911 memorial.They were held for 90 minutes and not allowed to leave as per Fox news. Asked if they could have went out alone and take their own mode (taxi, bus, whatever) she said no (jennifer griffin) How the fuck can the press pool be held against their will like that? I'd like to see some confirmation it was USSS (the government) confining Griffin (the press). It would be a pure violation of the 1st amendment protections. |
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Quoted: I'd like to see some confirmation it was USSS (the government) confining Griffin (the press). It would be a pure violation of the 1st amendment protections. Quoted: Quoted: Secret Service confined the embedded protective press pool when hillary was going down at the 911 memorial.They were held for 90 minutes and not allowed to leave as per Fox news. Asked if they could have went out alone and take their own mode (taxi, bus, whatever) she said no (jennifer griffin) How the fuck can the press pool be held against their will like that? I'd like to see some confirmation it was USSS (the government) confining Griffin (the press). It would be a pure violation of the 1st amendment protections. |
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While true, this does not give them the power to unreasonably detain people. Quoted:
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Part of their job is also protecting the dignity of the person under their watch. While FHRC, but I respect the hard work these men and women do every day. While true, this does not give them the power to unreasonably detain people. A lot of what they do is verbal judo. For example: "Sir, you need to come back inside. NOW!" --- It's just a suggestion, but spoken in command voice 'seems' like a demand. "I'm sorry but you need to remain in this area until I say otherwise. END OF STORY." --- You 'need' to, but they can't do shit if you don't. |
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Quoted: You think they can hold against their will the press pool? Quoted: Quoted: Part of their job is also protecting the dignity of the person under their watch. While FHRC, but I respect the hard work these men and women do every day. The question has been answered. They can and they did. The next question is "What will the press do about it?". I'm betting the answer is "Nothing". |
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Quoted: While true, this does not give them the power to unreasonably detain people. Quoted: Quoted: Part of their job is also protecting the dignity of the person under their watch. While FHRC, but I respect the hard work these men and women do every day. While true, this does not give them the power to unreasonably detain people. Guns, intimidation, fear and legal authority gives them the power. |
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I'd like to see some confirmation it was USSS (the government) confining Griffin (the press). It would be a pure violation of the 1st amendment protections. Quoted:
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Secret Service confined the embedded protective press pool when hillary was going down at the 911 memorial.They were held for 90 minutes and not allowed to leave as per Fox news. Asked if they could have went out alone and take their own mode (taxi, bus, whatever) she said no (jennifer griffin) How the fuck can the press pool be held against their will like that? I'd like to see some confirmation it was USSS (the government) confining Griffin (the press). It would be a pure violation of the 1st amendment protections. More like the 4th amendment 
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Quoted: While true, this does not give them the power to unreasonably detain people. Quoted: Quoted: Part of their job is also protecting the dignity of the person under their watch. While FHRC, but I respect the hard work these men and women do every day. While true, this does not give them the power to unreasonably detain people. |
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I'd like to see some confirmation it was USSS (the government) confining Griffin (the press). It would be a pure violation of the 1st amendment protections. Quoted:
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Secret Service confined the embedded protective press pool when hillary was going down at the 911 memorial.They were held for 90 minutes and not allowed to leave as per Fox news. Asked if they could have went out alone and take their own mode (taxi, bus, whatever) she said no (jennifer griffin) How the fuck can the press pool be held against their will like that? I'd like to see some confirmation it was USSS (the government) confining Griffin (the press). It would be a pure violation of the 1st amendment protections. Try the 4th Amendment, unreasonably/unlawfully detaining someone under the color of law would be a violation of the 4th's protection against unlawful search/seizure. |
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Part of their job is also protecting the dignity of the person under their watch. While FHRC, but I respect the hard work these men and women do every day. Her dignity must include keeping her cover stories intact? Which of course involve deceiving the tax payers aka we the people. |
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While true, this does not give them the power to unreasonably detain people. Quoted:
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Part of their job is also protecting the dignity of the person under their watch. While FHRC, but I respect the hard work these men and women do every day. While true, this does not give them the power to unreasonably detain people. This. You may leave, or you may stay here but you at not go there is a hell of a lot more constitutional than "you must stay here even though you have committed no crime and you have the right to travel unhampered." The SS got this one wrong, and FHRC. Her dignity, not that she has any, does not trump the right to not be detained without just cause. |
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I'm guessing if you say "Get the Fuck out of my way my granny is dying I have to leave!" you'd get kicked out of the press pool and fuck up your career if they did decide to let you go v illegally sitting on you. I suppose if push came to shove they would make up some BS about having to detain people for hillary's safety and would arrest you for obstruction or some bs that would later get dropped edit and then when the video came out and it was revealed that someone sat on you so kankles could be dragged unconscious into the granny van whoever sat on you would get transferred to hunting for counter fitters in detroit or gnome |
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Quoted: Secret Service confined the embedded protective press pool when hillary was going down at the 911 memorial.They were held for 90 minutes and not allowed to leave as per Fox news. Asked if they could have went out alone and take their own mode (taxi, bus, whatever) she said no (jennifer griffin) How the fuck can the press pool be held against their will like that? because having the press bus get blown up by an ied, though better than they all commited suicide, would still have been harder to explain |
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Her dignity must include keeping her cover stories intact? Which of course involve deceiving the tax payers aka we the people. Quoted:
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Part of their job is also protecting the dignity of the person under their watch. While FHRC, but I respect the hard work these men and women do every day. Her dignity must include keeping her cover stories intact? Which of course involve deceiving the tax payers aka we the people. The USSS IMHO doesn't play into the politics. Their focus is on maintaining safety of the protected person as well as maintaining their dignity. Again, FHRC, but if this same situation would have involved Trump, it would have been handled the same way. |
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Quoted:I'd like to see some confirmation it was USSS (the government) confining Griffin (the press). It would be a pure violation of the 1st amendment protections. 
Really? Really? Of course it does but, at this point, what difference does it really matter? 
There is no longer Constiution. There are no longer checks-and-balances. There are no longer restrictions on the government. There is no longer a Republic. |
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Quoted: Part of their job is also protecting the dignity of the person under their watch. While FHRC, but I respect the hard work these men and women do every day. |
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How the fuck can the press pool be held against their will like that? There is precedent. In June 2008, candidate Obama's people held his press detail aboard the campaign aircraft and flew them to Chicago while Obama remained behind at Dulles and sneaked off to the Bilderberg meeting in nearby Chantilly, VA. |
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I never really thought about it but protection details would get tedious after awhile. Ride around in cars, stand around in hallways, I would think after a few years it would get old but it's probably a prime detail for them. Quoted:
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Part of their job is also protecting the dignity of the person under their watch. While FHRC, but I respect the hard work these men and women do every day. The PPD(Presidential Protective Division) is THE ELITE in the USSS, and very few members of the SS reach the ranks of PPD. ETA: partially quoting Former USSS Agent Dan Bongino. Reading his book presently 
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Secret Service confined the embedded protective press pool when hillary was going down at the 911 memorial.They were held for 90 minutes and not allowed to leave as per Fox news. Asked if they could have went out alone and take their own mode (taxi, bus, whatever) she said no (jennifer griffin) How the fuck can the press pool be held against their will like that? In the name of national security, or some other such buzzword I'm sure. |
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Secret Service confined the embedded protective press pool when hillary was going down at the 911 memorial.They were held for 90 minutes and not allowed to leave as per Fox news. Asked if they could have went out alone and take their own mode (taxi, bus, whatever) she said no (jennifer griffin) How the fuck can the press pool be held against their will like that? Because America is the 21st century version of nazi germany. A dystopian nightmare, depending on your perspective. |
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Because America is the 21st century version of nazi germany. A dystopian nightmare, depending on your perspective. Quoted:
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Secret Service confined the embedded protective press pool when hillary was going down at the 911 memorial.They were held for 90 minutes and not allowed to leave as per Fox news. Asked if they could have went out alone and take their own mode (taxi, bus, whatever) she said no (jennifer griffin) How the fuck can the press pool be held against their will like that? Because America is the 21st century version of nazi germany. A dystopian nightmare, depending on your perspective. 
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I'd like to see some confirmation it was USSS (the government) confining Griffin (the press). It would be a pure violation of the 1st amendment protections. Quoted:
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Secret Service confined the embedded protective press pool when hillary was going down at the 911 memorial.They were held for 90 minutes and not allowed to leave as per Fox news. Asked if they could have went out alone and take their own mode (taxi, bus, whatever) she said no (jennifer griffin) How the fuck can the press pool be held against their will like that? I'd like to see some confirmation it was USSS (the government) confining Griffin (the press). It would be a pure violation of the 1st amendment protections. First amendment hell! How about freedom of movement under Crandall v. Nevada? |
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I bet there is some sort of agreement in place. Quoted:
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Secret Service confined the embedded protective press pool when hillary was going down at the 911 memorial.They were held for 90 minutes and not allowed to leave as per Fox news. Asked if they could have went out alone and take their own mode (taxi, bus, whatever) she said no (jennifer griffin) How the fuck can the press pool be held against their will like that? I'd like to see some confirmation it was USSS (the government) confining Griffin (the press). It would be a pure violation of the 1st amendment protections. That's pretty likely. They've already cleared them to travel with them. I'm sure they need to keep tabs on them at all times. |