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Posted: 10/6/2020 9:13:15 PM EDT
[#1]
No one?
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Posted: 10/6/2020 9:15:03 PM EDT
[#2]
G19 is still better
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Posted: 10/6/2020 9:16:59 PM EDT
[#3]
Socom has been using Glock 19's for years not M9 pistols.
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Posted: 10/6/2020 9:17:58 PM EDT
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Finally ditched the manual safety I see. Good.
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Posted: 10/6/2020 9:19:52 PM EDT
[#5]
We're at the point where a polymer striker pistol is a polymer striker pistol is a polymer striker pistol.
When all the polymer striker pistol options lack any meaningful differences from one another, of course SOCOM is going to go with the one that shares a common logistics footprint with the rest of the military. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 9:42:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2020 9:50:21 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Socom has been using Glock 19's for years not M9 pistols. Both are in inventory. The only branch that hasn't used the M9, at least since 1989, is NSW. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 9:55:35 PM EDT
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I have a Glock 19. I also bought two stripped Sig FCUs to build up into pistols much like the one you posted. Variety is cool.
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Posted: 10/6/2020 9:58:55 PM EDT
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Quoted:
Looks like SOCOM is going to go with the P320 but with a few changes. P320 X-Fulls are already in use by a Tier 1 unit. Let the but muh G19 tears flow! 
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:00:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both are in inventory. The only branch that hasn't used the M9, at least since 1989, is NSW. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Socom has been using Glock 19's for years not M9 pistols. Both are in inventory. The only branch that hasn't used the M9, at least since 1989, is NSW. If you took a broken slide to the face you'd want a different pistol, too
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:04:56 PM EDT
[#11]
Nice. Sig’s gonna take over the world.
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:06:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don’t visit the Sig forum often do you? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Looks like SOCOM is going to go with the P320 but with a few changes. P320 X-Fulls are already in use by a Tier 1 unit. Let the but muh G19 tears flow! You don’t visit the Sig forum often do you? Sometimes. GD is more entertaining though! 
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:07:13 PM EDT
[#13]
Sig must've sourced the best hookers in Vegas to get all these different contracts and nods in trials
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:10:43 PM EDT
[#14]
Glock is still a superior pistol.
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:12:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:14:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Glock is still a superior pistol. Oh, you. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:14:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sig must've sourced the best hookers in Vegas to get all these different contracts and nods in trials Nah, SMU's don't work that way. Bitches be throwing themselves at them. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:22:55 PM EDT
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cool, I guess. I kind of feel like some of that stuff's overkill for a sidearm in a military context, but if it's on the taxpayer's dime, I guess SOCOM might as well run race guns.
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:31:35 PM EDT
[#19]
Have both and still prefer my G19, I tried to like it but it sits in my safe collecting dust. I would sell it but my wife gave it to me as a birthday present.
Good handgun, just like the Glock better. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:32:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: cool, I guess. I kind of feel like some of that stuff's overkill for a sidearm in a military context, but if it's on the taxpayer's dime, I guess SOCOM might as well run race guns. SOF use their pistols quite often. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:34:22 PM EDT
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Great thread with alot of inside info
https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/G19-in-the-SF-communities-/13-179518/ |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:38:35 PM EDT
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Quoted: Looks like SOCOM is going to go with the P320 but with a few changes. P320 X-Fulls are already in use by a Tier 1 unit. Let the but muh G19 tears flow! LOL. Fuck Glock. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:40:03 PM EDT
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Years ago when I first had a chance to fire the P320 compact I was very underwhelmed. And I was prepared to have my life changed, as I was a long time Sig whore.
Have they gotten better? Are mags still $50? Sig would have given me two of them, two, and I passed. Does it deserve a second look? |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:40:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We're at the point where a polymer striker pistol is a polymer striker pistol is a polymer striker pistol. When all the polymer striker pistol options lack any meaningful differences from one another, of course SOCOM is going to go with the one that shares a common logistics footprint with the rest of the military. Yep, a sea of also-rans. None of them compelling |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:42:19 PM EDT
[#25]
Hope they don’t drop it.
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:43:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We're at the point where a polymer striker pistol is a polymer striker pistol is a polymer striker pistol. When all the polymer striker pistol options lack any meaningful differences from one another, of course SOCOM is going to go with the one that shares a common logistics footprint with the rest of the military. Especially if it's easy for them to put an RDS, custom grips, and even the PDW setups for them. the logistics and price factors matter to me as a taxpayer; stop funding so many damn NSNs of pistols, the 320 can be the jack of all trades/master of none just fine, for cheap. That said, I still hate the 250 and 320 series, and prefer my VP9s because I shoot them better and they work in the role that I need them to much better than the 320. But damn if some of the film dust-cover Roland Special type setups don't look sexy 
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:00:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Years ago when I first had a chance to fire the P320 compact I was very underwhelmed. And I was prepared to have my life changed, as I was a long time Sig whore. Have they gotten better? Are mags still $50? Sig would have given me two of them, two, and I passed. Does it deserve a second look? Yes. Try the X Series grip. Sig is also releasing an aluminum frame for the 320 that is the same as the X Series. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:07:28 PM EDT
[#28]
I’d still prefer to carry a G19 Gen 5 appendix over a 320.
Fuck Ron Cohen and his Indian MIM bullshit. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:10:10 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Try the X Series grip. Sig is also releasing an aluminum frame for the 320 that is the same as the X Series. Wide in all the wrong places and still doesn’t allow your hand to get high enough. No thanks. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:11:33 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. Try the X Series grip. Sig is also releasing an aluminum frame for the 320 that is the same as the X Series. Wilson Combat grip module is awesome as well. I don’t think anyone should be particularly surprised by this. As said, polymer striker pistols are all pretty much functionally identical these days, Internet fanboyism notwithstanding. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:11:40 PM EDT
[#31]
H&K
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:17:51 PM EDT
[#32]
The 320 offers a lot of adaptability that they will find useful. It will probably be much like the M9 and Glock, where you gradually see less and less of the former and more of the new one. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:21:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d still prefer to carry a G19 Gen 5 appendix over a 320. Fuck Ron Cohen and his Indian MIM bullshit. You do realize Glock uses MIM parts too right? |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:22:22 PM EDT
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 " />Look at that barrel is something off? |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:23:12 PM EDT
[#35]
Got to finger fuck and run a couple mags through a M18. Sweet shooting little pistol with nice ergos.
If I’d ditched Glocks during the salad days it woulda been a tough decision between Sig & M&P. But availability and that lawsuit situation made it double moot. I’ll definitely be getting the M17 & M18 at some point. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:25:24 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wide in all the wrong places and still doesn’t allow your hand to get high enough. No thanks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes. Try the X Series grip. Sig is also releasing an aluminum frame for the 320 that is the same as the X Series. Wide in all the wrong places and still doesn’t allow your hand to get high enough. No thanks. Personal preference... There is going to be a ton of new and aftermarket stuff coming out for the 320. That is why they are selling just FCG too. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:29:45 PM EDT
[#37]
Still prefer my glock 19.
Probably cuz I've put 50kish rounds through that and only about 3000 through a p320. Something about where the takedown lever is on the p320...annoys the shit out of me when shooting. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:31:21 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Still prefer my glock 19. Probably cuz I've put 50kish rounds through that and only about 3000 through a p320. Something about where the takedown lever is on the p320...annoys the shit out of me when shooting. I get that. It is easily changed though wich is nice, some one made a gas pedal one I need to try. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:31:42 PM EDT
[#39]
In that case.... I'll stick with my G19.
But that modular FCG is neat. |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:33:04 PM EDT
[#40]
So do our warfighters or their armorers have to send them back to Sig for "voluntary upgrades"?
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:33:51 PM EDT
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When your country can't even make a fucking Kalashnikov, have rapes in the designated shitting field, and is a geopolitical joke, but it's okay because you get to make MIM parts that go into unsafe pistols that were awarded the M9 replacement without Phase II testing on the last day of a lame duck corrupt Shitcago politician.
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Posted: 10/6/2020 11:34:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/7/2020 12:21:35 AM EDT
[#43]
 Attached FileI can vouch that the set up is nice and works very well, should have taken others advise and get the X carry grip long ago. |
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Posted: 10/7/2020 12:27:20 AM EDT
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SOCOM as an organization or actual operators? AFSOC? USASOC? Again, as a whole or actual shooters? Because the support to shooter ratio in those units is like 1,000:1.
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Posted: 10/7/2020 1:08:36 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: SOCOM as an organization or actual operators? AFSOC? USASOC? Again, as a whole or actual shooters? Because the support to shooter ratio in those units is like 1,000:1. Shooters. A JSOC unit is also using a P320 X Full. |
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Posted: 10/7/2020 1:11:15 AM EDT
[#46]
 
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Posted: 10/7/2020 1:12:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Years ago when I first had a chance to fire the P320 compact I was very underwhelmed. And I was prepared to have my life changed, as I was a long time Sig whore. Have they gotten better? Are mags still $50? Sig would have given me two of them, two, and I passed. Does it deserve a second look? @drew5337 It's just another polymer-framed striker pistol. All polymer-framed striker pistols are going to underwhelm you compared to eachother, because they aren't really any different from one another in any meaningful way. The difference between an M9 and a Glock is kind of important, which is why SOCOM used so many of them despite the rest of the military using M9s. The difference between a Glock and a P320 isn't really important. Hence why if SOCOM wants to be running around with a polymer-framed striker gun, they might as well be doing it with something that shares a common logistics and maintenance footprint as what the rest of the military is using now that the rest of the military is also using a polymer-framed striker pistol. Yes, mags are around $40-$50. But that's at least partly because of panic buying. I paid $30 each for some brand new 21-rnd mags sometime last year. As far as being worth a second look, they've added some models with new differently-shaped grips and different triggers. Either way, it's still just another boringly reliable polymer striker gun. |
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Posted: 10/7/2020 1:13:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shooters. A JSOC unit is also using a P320 X Full. News to me. It’s been a year or two since I’ve worked with such units. From my experience, each unit was kind of individual. One didn’t equal the whole in my experience. Not saying that X unit isn’t using X gun, but glock was super common. In a lot of cases, a nifty little back plate was present that made that glock shoot a “little bit” faster than normal. The “Germans” proved useful up north. |
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Posted: 10/7/2020 1:24:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhy does that shooter have the scope cap closed? Hmmm. They don’t look like they are at Walmart. Anyway, the new P320 AXG is something they may want more of but didn’t know it existed, until today. |
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Posted: 10/7/2020 9:37:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why does that shooter have the scope cap closed? Hmmm. They don’t look like they are at Walmart. Anyway, the new P320 AXG is something they may want more of but didn’t know it existed, until today. Quote HistoryQuoted: Why does that shooter have the scope cap closed? Hmmm. They don’t look like they are at Walmart. Anyway, the new P320 AXG is something they may want more of but didn’t know it existed, until today. Don't know. This was during the maternity ward attack in Kabul 5-6 months ago. Yeah, I am definitely interested in the AXG frame. |
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