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7/29/2025 8:44:27 PM EDT
Got this a few minutes ago via email. Love the part where you're encouraged to call in and report ranges and instructors who ban the P320.

tldr: We dindu

P320 Information
P320 Safety Information

Recently, there have been a number of reports and claims regarding the safety of the P320 pistol and its use by the U.S. Military and law enforcement agencies. We understand you may have questions. We want to address your concerns and provide you with full, complete, and accurate information.

SIG SAUER has ALWAYS and will continue to put the safety and security of the U.S. Military, the law enforcement community, our consumers, and the public first. To this end, we want to be sure concerned citizens have access to complete facts.

The P320 pistol is one of the safest, most advanced pistols in the world -meeting and exceeding all industry safety standards. Its design has been thoroughly tested and validated by the U.S. Military and law enforcement agencies at the federal, state and local levels. In addition, the P320 has been rigorously tested, and is currently in use by militaries and law enforcement agencies around the world.

FBI Testing and Report

A recently publicized internal report from the FBI’s Ballistic Research Facility (BRF) created some confusion and raised questions about the safety of the P320. The FBI prepared this report for the Michigan State Police after an officer was involved in an accidental discharge. SIG SAUER engineers met with the FBI and Michigan State Police on several occasions to review the report and the incident. Ultimately, the FBI conducted a more detailed, repeatable, and comprehensive battery of testing using compatible equipment. The subsequent testing resulted in zero instances of failures and the Michigan State Police are now confidently issuing officers P320 based pistols. The FBI BRF have yet to make any official claims or statements regarding the safety of the P320 pistol or any of its variants. However, we are urging the FBI BRF and FBI Director Kash Patel to release a full and complete testing and evaluation report on their updated P320 safety testing.

Department of Homeland Security

An internal memo from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)/ U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) was recently posted online stating the agency was halting its use of the P320. Many online media outlets immediately sought to attribute this to the above referenced FBI BRF report, which is incorrect. DHS has never raised any safety concerns about the P320 and ICE has since extended their existing contract with SIG SAUER another two years. Since DHS has yet to comment publicly correcting their improperly leaked memo, or any statements questioning the safety of the P320, we are now urging ICE to release all information on P320 testing. SIG SAUER is honored to continue aiding ICE in their mission to protect America.

U.S. Air Force M18

There was a recent tragic incident at F.E. Warren Air Force Base in Wyoming which resulted in the death of an Airman. Because the incident involved the discharge of a (P320 based) M18 pistol, the Air Force is actively conducting an evaluation of M18 pistols within the specific Command where the incident happened. This cautionary step is standard procedure.  We proactively offered assistance to the U.S. military as they investigate the incident. Contrary to several online reports, (P320 based) M17 and M18 pistols remain on active duty with all branches of the U.S. Military, including the U.S. Air Force, defending freedom around the world. We have absolute confidence in the U.S. Military’s ability to conduct a thorough investigation  and report their findings. As we learn more information about the investigation, we will continue to provide updated information.

P320 Range and Training Bans

Following several of these inaccurate reports, a number of ranges, training providers, and training facilities made the reactionary decision to ban the P320 and its use in their facilities. We are actively working to provide these individuals with accurate information along with a detailed understanding of the P320 and its safety features. If you are impacted by a P320 range or a training provider ban, we urge you to reach out to SIG CUSTOMER SERVICE: 603-610-3000 Option 1 or send a message here so we can clarify any misinformation and provide the truth.

The P320 CANNOT, under any circumstances, discharge without the trigger first being moved to the rear. This has been verified through exhaustive testing by SIG SAUER engineers, the U.S. Military, several major federal and state law enforcement agencies, and independent laboratories. This video provides a detailed view into all of the various safety features of the P320 and provides a detailed explanation of how the safety system works; for further information on the P320 please visit here.

As with any gun, the P320 will discharge if the trigger is pulled to the rear. Accordingly, SIG SAUER continues to remind its customers, employees, and the public to employ all safe gun-handling practices as spelled out in detail in our product manuals. The SIG SAUER Academy remains a resource to customers, employees, and the public in offering various firearms safety courses.

We respect the public’s concern and are actively working to provide as much information as possible. We sincerely thank you for your continued support of SIG SAUER and urge anyone with additional questions or concerns regarding the P320 and/or safe firearms handling to reach out to our customer service team.
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7/29/2025 8:45:38 PM EDT
[#1]
More gaslighting.
7/29/2025 8:45:54 PM EDT
[#2]
These people are so shitty I hate the fact I bought a 365 now, even though it’s not affected by this.
7/29/2025 8:45:57 PM EDT
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Got this a few minutes ago via email.

P320 Information
P320 Safety Information

Recently, there have been a number of reports and claims regarding the safety of the P320 pistol and its use by the U.S. Military and law enforcement agencies. We understand you may have questions. We want to address your concerns and provide you with full, complete, and accurate information.

SIG SAUER has ALWAYS and will continue to put the safety and security of the U.S. Military, the law enforcement community, our consumers, and the public first. To this end, we want to be sure concerned citizens have access to complete facts.

The P320 pistol is one of the safest, most advanced pistols in the world -meeting and exceeding all industry safety standards. Its design has been thoroughly tested and validated by the U.S. Military and law enforcement agencies at the federal, state and local levels. In addition, the P320 has been rigorously tested, and is currently in use by militaries and law enforcement agencies around the world.

FBI Testing and Report

A recently publicized internal report from the FBI’s Ballistic Research Facility (BRF) created some confusion and raised questions about the safety of the P320. The FBI prepared this report for the Michigan State Police after an officer was involved in an accidental discharge. SIG SAUER engineers met with the FBI and Michigan State Police on several occasions to review the report and the incident. Ultimately, the FBI conducted a more detailed, repeatable, and comprehensive battery of testing using compatible equipment. The subsequent testing resulted in zero instances of failures and the Michigan State Police are now confidently issuing officers P320 based pistols. The FBI BRF have yet to make any official claims or statements regarding the safety of the P320 pistol or any of its variants. However, we are urging the FBI BRF and FBI Director Kash Patel to release a full and complete testing and evaluation report on their updated P320 safety testing.

Department of Homeland Security

An internal memo from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS)/ U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) was recently posted online stating the agency was halting its use of the P320. Many online media outlets immediately sought to attribute this to the above referenced FBI BRF report, which is incorrect. DHS has never raised any safety concerns about the P320 and ICE has since extended their existing contract with SIG SAUER another two years. Since DHS has yet to comment publicly correcting their improperly leaked memo, or any statements questioning the safety of the P320, we are now urging ICE to release all information on P320 testing. SIG SAUER is honored to continue aiding ICE in their mission to protect America.

U.S. Air Force M18

There was a recent tragic incident at F.E. Warren Air Force Base in Wyoming which resulted in the death of an Airman. Because the incident involved the discharge of a (P320 based) M18 pistol, the Air Force is actively conducting an evaluation of M18 pistols within the specific Command where the incident happened. This cautionary step is standard procedure.  We proactively offered assistance to the U.S. military as they investigate the incident. Contrary to several online reports, (P320 based) M17 and M18 pistols remain on active duty with all branches of the U.S. Military, including the U.S. Air Force, defending freedom around the world. We have absolute confidence in the U.S. Military’s ability to conduct a thorough investigation  and report their findings. As we learn more information about the investigation, we will continue to provide updated information.

P320 Range and Training Bans

Following several of these inaccurate reports, a number of ranges, training providers, and training facilities made the reactionary decision to ban the P320 and its use in their facilities. We are actively working to provide these individuals with accurate information along with a detailed understanding of the P320 and its safety features. If you are impacted by a P320 range or a training provider ban, we urge you to reach out to SIG CUSTOMER SERVICE: 603-610-3000 Option 1 or send a message here so we can clarify any misinformation and provide the truth.

The P320 CANNOT, under any circumstances, discharge without the trigger first being moved to the rear. This has been verified through exhaustive testing by SIG SAUER engineers, the U.S. Military, several major federal and state law enforcement agencies, and independent laboratories. This video provides a detailed view into all of the various safety features of the P320 and provides a detailed explanation of how the safety system works; for further information on the P320 please visit here.

As with any gun, the P320 will discharge if the trigger is pulled to the rear. Accordingly, SIG SAUER continues to remind its customers, employees, and the public to employ all safe gun-handling practices as spelled out in detail in our product manuals. The SIG SAUER Academy remains a resource to customers, employees, and the public in offering various firearms safety courses.

We respect the public’s concern and are actively working to provide as much information as possible. We sincerely thank you for your continued support of SIG SAUER and urge anyone with additional questions or concerns regarding the P320 and/or safe firearms handling to reach out to our customer service team.
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It's been posted in the other Sig threads, too.

Every point they make can be disproven and they omitted other studies that disprove the safety of the P320, too.
7/29/2025 8:47:04 PM EDT
[#4]
Clearly it did not end today.
7/29/2025 8:47:27 PM EDT
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Following several of these inaccurate reports, a number of ranges, training providers, and training facilities made the reactionary decision to ban the P320 and its use in their facilities. We are actively working to provide these individuals with accurate information along with a detailed understanding of the P320 and its safety features. If you are impacted by a P320 range or a training provider ban, we urge you to reach out to SIG CUSTOMER SERVICE: 603-610-3000 Option 1 or send a message here so we can clarify any misinformation and provide the truth.

The P320 CANNOT, under any circumstances, discharge without the trigger first being moved to the rear. This has been verified through exhaustive testing by SIG SAUER engineers, the U.S. Military, several major federal and state law enforcement agencies, and independent laboratories. This video provides a detailed view into all of the various safety features of the P320 and provides a detailed explanation of how the safety system works; for further information on the P320 please visit here.

(NOTE:  I see they have slightly changed from their March 7, 2025, "this ends today" statement where they claimed in part, "The P320 CANNOT, under any circumstances, discharge without a trigger pull – that is a fact."  Now they say (according to OP's post) the P320 CANNOT, under any circumstances, discharge without the trigger first being moved to the rear, instead of saying the words "trigger pull".  Trigger pull generally means a person pulling the trigger versus the "trigger first being moved to the rear", makes it sound more like a mechanical movement.  Small but seemingly important change of wording in my opinion.  Maybe I'm off base with this thought.  GD will surely give their two cents.

7/29/2025 8:48:04 PM EDT
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It's been posted in the other Sig threads, too.

Every point they make can be disproven and they omitted other studies that disprove the safety of the P320, too.
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IN MY OPINION: The distinction they use between pulling and moving the trigger to discharge the handgun is subtle but telling.
7/29/2025 8:48:21 PM EDT
[#7]
Sig ain’t budging.
7/29/2025 8:50:35 PM EDT
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It's been posted in the other Sig threads, too.

Every point they make can be disproven and they omitted other studies that disprove the safety of the P320, too.
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Didn't the FBI report literally show pictures of primers with striker marks? Or am I misremembering?

Kash should make a public statement and break it off in SIGs ass
7/29/2025 8:50:48 PM EDT
[#9]
Lol

When in doubt, double down it out
7/29/2025 8:52:07 PM EDT
[#10]
Double down huh?

Bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for them.

beat
7/29/2025 8:54:25 PM EDT
[#11]
I just got the email and after reading it it made me think…Have you ever met someone that for “some reason” doesn’t get along with or isn’t liked by other people… and it’s always the other persons fault… never theirs…?

Sig… Sig is that person.
7/29/2025 8:54:42 PM EDT
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When in doubt, double down it out
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Yeah, but what is it at this point?  x36?
7/29/2025 8:56:25 PM EDT
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These people are so shitty I hate the fact I bought a 365 now, even though it's not affected by this.
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Same here. I keep telling myself that a gun is just a tool; no different than a patriotic American owning an AK or SKS, I suppose.

7/29/2025 8:57:58 PM EDT
[#14]
They're not very bright, but they are persistent
7/29/2025 8:59:07 PM EDT
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More gaslighting.
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Exactly.
7/29/2025 8:59:37 PM EDT
[#16]
“It NDs today!”
7/29/2025 9:00:07 PM EDT
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The distinction they use between pulling and moving the trigger to discharge the handgun is subtle but telling.
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The trigger moved something >0” to the rear therefore it went off
7/29/2025 9:00:16 PM EDT
[#18]
They can afford to lose a lot of money to avoid losing a lot of money they can’t afford. Deny, defend, discredit.
7/29/2025 9:01:05 PM EDT
[#19]
I’m sure the silly GDers would never inundate SIG with fictitious trainers, schools, etc to kill time.

Venus de Milo Arms banned P320s first.  Along with Paul Smecker at Boondocks?  I’m pretty sure.

In Minecraft at least.
7/29/2025 9:01:17 PM EDT
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The P320 CANNOT, under any circumstances, discharge without the trigger first being moved to the rear.
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This may not age well.
7/29/2025 9:01:41 PM EDT
[#21]
Fuck Sig. And fuck anyone who actually calls that shit in. Counting on shills?

FIX YOUR FUCKING GUN SIG, HOW BOUT THAT?
7/29/2025 9:02:30 PM EDT
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7/29/2025 9:05:29 PM EDT
[#23]
Now it really ends today!


7/29/2025 9:07:50 PM EDT
[#24]
Lol.

This isn’t going to end well.
7/29/2025 9:09:13 PM EDT
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This may not age well.
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The P320 CANNOT, under any circumstances, discharge without the trigger first being moved to the rear.


This may not age well.

Well it is technically correct. If you move the trigger 1mm to the rear and bump the slide it can fire. That is rearward movement. They didn't say pulled fully to the rear, that is too high of a standard for any handgun /s.
7/29/2025 9:10:43 PM EDT
[#26]
Was Sig statement signed by Kijiro Nambu?

A solid repeatable flaw without trigger manipulation still makes the malfunction claims just as bad. Throw a couple in a cement mixer and see if they go off.
7/29/2025 9:13:27 PM EDT
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7/29/2025 9:13:31 PM EDT
[#28]
They have to stay the course. Sig has dug this hole and doubled down so hard that anything else is corporate suicide and an admission of guilt.

7/29/2025 9:14:29 PM EDT
[#29]
I think they have caused more damage to their reputation by doubling down, than just coming out and leveling with people.

Not to mention, private property is private property.  If they want to ban something, they are well within their rights to do so.
7/29/2025 9:15:37 PM EDT
[#30]
MCSO has just taken it off their approved handgun list
7/29/2025 9:15:52 PM EDT
[#31]
They are done.

I’ve never seen such from a firearms manufacturer.
7/29/2025 9:15:57 PM EDT
[#32]
Now I want to send them an email and ask them how much of a cash reward will I get for alerting them to trainers and institutions that have banned the 320?

Then post that all over the net.

7/29/2025 9:16:49 PM EDT
[#33]
Oh dis gone be good
7/29/2025 9:16:58 PM EDT
[#34]

There is a letter from a General in the Air Force posted all over the place about pulling the P320 .... hard to dispute unless the letter is a fake.


.
7/29/2025 9:17:17 PM EDT
[#35]
this is crazy anything else would have been recalled long ago
7/29/2025 9:17:30 PM EDT
[#36]
Weird. I didn't think my lack of respect for them could sink any lower.

7/29/2025 9:17:32 PM EDT
[#37]
Well I feel better now.
7/29/2025 9:18:03 PM EDT
[#38]
Why the hell do they keep doubling down?

How fucking dumb are they that they to l think making these statements helps them?

7/29/2025 9:18:12 PM EDT
[#39]
Got the email also

Damage control words
7/29/2025 9:18:41 PM EDT
[#40]
Sig is dead to me, what lying dirtbags.
7/29/2025 9:23:17 PM EDT
[#41]
lol. I can’t unsee things that happened on video.
7/29/2025 9:24:22 PM EDT
[#42]
Oops
7/29/2025 9:24:55 PM EDT
[#43]
Wow.

If you are impacted by a P320 range or a training provider ban, we urge you to reach out to SIG CUSTOMER SERVICE: 603-610-3000 Option 1 or send a message here so we can clarify any misinformation and provide the truth.
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7/29/2025 9:25:12 PM EDT
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It's all from the Mandela Effect.  
7/29/2025 9:26:05 PM EDT
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Yep.


I will never own another sig.
7/29/2025 9:29:06 PM EDT
[#46]
Wow this is fucken ridiculous
7/29/2025 9:29:33 PM EDT
[#47]
So, I can take the slack out of the trigger, and not actually pull the trigger, and the weapon is no longer safe.   NOPE, would not buy.
7/29/2025 9:30:15 PM EDT
[#48]
They never did issue a recall to fix the drop issue. Let that sink in. They only issued a “voluntary upgrade”
7/29/2025 9:30:25 PM EDT
[#49]
Someone needs to tell Sig these PR campaigns and public statements aren't helping.

7/29/2025 9:31:29 PM EDT
[#50]
I got that email too

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