Russia / Iran / China - The New Axis Megathread (Page 2026 of 2027)
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Originally Posted By 15fanatic: Now we see the talking point today. Trump just had to tweet out that complete lie he made up (ukraine nor russia agreed to anything)
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It's possible Zelensky broke some agreement but my bet is that Russia broke it first. Anyway, Trump's open, public response is childish. |
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Originally Posted By 15fanatic: Now we see the talking point today. Trump just had to tweet out that complete lie he made up (ukraine nor russia agreed to anything)
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Trump looks like the little boy using fingers to plug holes in the dike. Iran, Iraqi militias, Houthis, Ukraine, Russia, etc are all bombing oil, gas infrastructure while Trump is trying to have a good showing in the mid-terms based on low gas prices. Talk about futility. And the one country Trump can bully is Ukraine so everything is their fault. I hope they have a larger and more successful attack on Russian oil tonight. And tomorrow... |
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: It's not just Slovakia, and Hungary until Orban lost. Look at AfD surging in Germany. Their Federal elections are next year. Look at RN in France, where Le Pen recently said she'd flat-out end aid to Ukraine - their national election is next year, also. What is Putin's goal? A multipolar world. Rebuilding Imperial Russia is only one side of the coin. Tearing down western power is the other side. If you get Fico's view repeated in Europe's biggest powers, NATO is in terminal decline. That seems destabilizing. What infuriates me is that the political Right in Europe is correct on domestic issues, but simultaneously wrong on Russia. I don't even understand why. Anti-immigration? Great. Pro-Russia? Uhh... no. Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By Longshore87:I will agree that Slovakia is an issue. If they just sit on their hands and don’t participate in the near future though it’s not like we are losing much. Long term if Ukraine falls it’s much more of an issue. It's not just Slovakia, and Hungary until Orban lost. Look at AfD surging in Germany. Their Federal elections are next year. Look at RN in France, where Le Pen recently said she'd flat-out end aid to Ukraine - their national election is next year, also. What is Putin's goal? A multipolar world. Rebuilding Imperial Russia is only one side of the coin. Tearing down western power is the other side. If you get Fico's view repeated in Europe's biggest powers, NATO is in terminal decline. That seems destabilizing. What infuriates me is that the political Right in Europe is correct on domestic issues, but simultaneously wrong on Russia. I don't even understand why. Anti-immigration? Great. Pro-Russia? Uhh... no. It’s pretty obvious, it’s just like here. The Left weaponized the state and Techbros against thier enemies (us), and were enthusiastic Putin-Puffers until Putin pissed in thier faces with the ‘14. Now, of course, due to that they hate Putin with a hysterical intensity…..a lot of folks hate the shitlibs so much they assume anyone they hate that much is thier friend. It’s how Trump got Elected, and ultimately re-Elected, and at the bottom of why they hate Ukraine even though it has a backstory that should make them total CHADs in thier eyes. It’s a compelling argument, one I have to work to resist because I know the truth….the Russians hate us and want to kill us. |
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Originally Posted By Longshore87: I agree with you on all of that. Europes leaders the last 20+ years created that situation. It’s almost like they purposely created it to destroy the west. I don't know who 'they' is, I'd like to know. But that smells right. 3rd world immigration flood on one hand, Nazi Russia on the other. A perfect one-two punch to wreck the western world permanently. Both external enemies who care nothing for western culture, industry, or any of the fruits of them. WHY do westerners not see value in perpetuating western culture? WHY the suicidal streak? It's not like white Europeans and their progeny (Australia, Canada, USA, etc) are uniquely repressive or brutal. Others are FAR worse than we are, historically. End off-topic lament. |
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Originally Posted By Tiberius: Putin has a flavor of Kool-Aid for every political persuasion. Many leftoids that hate Putin still spout his propaganda narratives about the US, blissfully ignorant that they are doing so. Ass-ange, like a lot of hard-left “journalists “, are conscious Allies of Putin. Nothing new under the moon. Just look at the breathless essays of the 1920-30ths US writers who visited Ukraine during the famous famines. |
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Originally Posted By 15fanatic: Russia isn't worried about the UK. Russia wants to find out if the US will actually commit to defending NATO or not. And we're giving them signs that we might not. I don't think there is any chance russia would mess with nato if the US were clear eyed about what we would do. Any other president would be sending reinforcements to the baltic states right now just to shut down any talk about russia invading. But we're currently doing the opposite and talking about bringing troops home. Its the wrong message at the wrong time. Is the rest of NATO committed to defending itself? |
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Originally Posted By voyager3: Is the rest of NATO committed to defending itself? Originally Posted By voyager3: Originally Posted By 15fanatic: Russia isn't worried about the UK. Russia wants to find out if the US will actually commit to defending NATO or not. And we're giving them signs that we might not. I don't think there is any chance russia would mess with nato if the US were clear eyed about what we would do. Any other president would be sending reinforcements to the baltic states right now just to shut down any talk about russia invading. But we're currently doing the opposite and talking about bringing troops home. Its the wrong message at the wrong time. Is the rest of NATO committed to defending itself? The Baltic countries are. They're the ones most at threat. Their defense spending is around 5% of GDP. |
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: I don't know who 'they' is, I'd like to know. But that smells right. 3rd world immigration flood on one hand, Nazi Russia on the other. A perfect one-two punch to wreck the western world permanently. Both external enemies who care nothing for western culture, industry, or any of the fruits of them. WHY do westerners not see value in perpetuating western culture? WHY the suicidal streak? It's not like white Europeans and their progeny (Australia, Canada, USA, etc) are uniquely repressive or brutal. Others are FAR worse than we are, historically. End off-topic lament. I guess if all you are taught about Western Culture is the Spanish Conquistadors, white settlers killing natives, slavery, and multiple world wars where white Christians bombed, nuked, and slaughtered each other in death camps, you would think that is all we are. Our kids have known nothing good about western culture and civilization for decades. No wonder they are eager to destroy it. |
  Double confirmation that something is happening. 
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I guess if all you are taught about Western Culture is the Spanish Conquistadors, white settlers killing natives, slavery, and multiple world wars where white Christians bombed, nuked, and slaughtered each other in death camps, you would think that is all we are. Our kids have known nothing good about western culture and civilization for decades. No wonder they are eager to destroy it. But that's the thing: the same destruction, death, hate, slavery, etc, etc runs through every other race/culture too. If you truly look at the total history of everybody, white Euro culture looks pretty darned good in comparison. It's truly insane and/or spectacularly ignorant to believe that the other races/cultures of the world are somehow less violent, less intolerant, less hateful, etc. Even communism (invented by white Euros, and truly something worth guilt/repentance) had less of a body count than the Muslims invading South Asia. TL;DR - y'all motherfuckers need Jesus. |
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: But that's the thing: the same destruction, death, hate, slavery, etc, etc runs through every other race/culture too. If you truly look at the total history of everybody, white Euro culture looks pretty darned good in comparison. It's truly insane and/or spectacularly ignorant to believe that the other races/cultures of the world are somehow less violent, less intolerant, less hateful, etc. Even communism (invented by white Euros, and truly something worth guilt/repentance) had less of a body count than the Muslims invading South Asia. TL;DR - y'all motherfuckers need Jesus. White European Christian culture looks pretty darned good in comparison. White European pre-Christian pagan culture was just as depraved as pagan culture anywhere else. |
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname: White European Christian culture looks pretty darned good in comparison. White European pre-Christian pagan culture was just as depraved as pagan culture anywhere else. Originally Posted By CleverNickname: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: But that's the thing: the same destruction, death, hate, slavery, etc, etc runs through every other race/culture too. If you truly look at the total history of everybody, white Euro culture looks pretty darned good in comparison. It's truly insane and/or spectacularly ignorant to believe that the other races/cultures of the world are somehow less violent, less intolerant, less hateful, etc. Even communism (invented by white Euros, and truly something worth guilt/repentance) had less of a body count than the Muslims invading South Asia. TL;DR - y'all motherfuckers need Jesus. White European Christian culture looks pretty darned good in comparison. White European pre-Christian pagan culture was just as depraved as pagan culture anywhere else. Do Classic Greeks and Romans count? |
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Originally Posted By voyager3: Do Classic Greeks and Romans count? Originally Posted By voyager3: Originally Posted By CleverNickname: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: But that's the thing: the same destruction, death, hate, slavery, etc, etc runs through every other race/culture too. If you truly look at the total history of everybody, white Euro culture looks pretty darned good in comparison. It's truly insane and/or spectacularly ignorant to believe that the other races/cultures of the world are somehow less violent, less intolerant, less hateful, etc. Even communism (invented by white Euros, and truly something worth guilt/repentance) had less of a body count than the Muslims invading South Asia. TL;DR - y'all motherfuckers need Jesus. White European Christian culture looks pretty darned good in comparison. White European pre-Christian pagan culture was just as depraved as pagan culture anywhere else. Do Classic Greeks and Romans count? Uh, yeah... Have you read anything about them? |
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Israeli security forces are preparing to carry out a series of "extensive" operations in the West Bank during Yom Kippur, following this morning's deadly shooting attack. The IDF is currently imposing a closure on several Palestinian villages in the Ramallah area, where the attack took place. Starting tonight and during the fast, the military says it is preparing to conduct dozens of arrest raids in the West Bank, including those suspected of involvement in today's attack. A brigade-level operation will also be conducted in the gunman's village, and troops are set to raid his home to map it out ahead of its planned demolition, according to the IDF. Forces from the military, police, Shin Bet, and the Civil Administration will also increase their presence in settlements and along main routes. Following the army's latest troop buildup, the West Bank now has the equivalent of 27 battalions, including special forces. |
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday
🔥 BAVOVNA at Moscow Oil Refinery in Kapotnya. 💥 TPP-22 in Dzerzhinsky. 🔥 Logistics hub in Sofyino. 🇺🇦 Defense Forces liberated another 43.5 km² and two settlements as part of Operation Vivaldi. 😎 FP-1, RZ-100, MICH-2000, "Palyanytsya", Vendetta, "Liutyi", "Bars", "Flamingo", "Sichen", Pelican worked in Moscow. 🔥 "ATESH" agents carried out a successful sabotage in Taganrog, where a turnout on a key section of the railway was destroyed. 💥 Sadovod mall in Moscow. One of the largest markets in Moscow and Russia on fire. ⚡️In the area of Ukrainka, Zaporizhzhia region, Buk-M3 system was hit. 😎 In the area of Balka, Donetsk region, the damage to Nebo-U radar station was recorded. 🇺🇸 Zelensky: Just spoke with President Trump. We agreed to meet in New York, and this meeting can change a lot. ✈️ Over 400 flights delayed in Moscow, dozens more canceled due to massive drone attack. ⛽️ Gazpromneft gas station in Moscow has introduced stricter restrictions on refueling - 30 liters
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: It's possible Zelensky broke some agreement but my bet is that Russia broke it first. Anyway, Trump's open, public response is childish. |
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: But that's the thing: the same destruction, death, hate, slavery, etc, etc runs through every other race/culture too. If you truly look at the total history of everybody, white Euro culture looks pretty darned good in comparison. It's truly insane and/or spectacularly ignorant to believe that the other races/cultures of the world are somehow less violent, less intolerant, less hateful, etc. Even communism (invented by white Euros, and truly something worth guilt/repentance) had less of a body count than the Muslims invading South Asia. TL;DR - y'all motherfuckers need Jesus. Agree 100%. Add to that Western Civilizations contributions to art, architecture, law, literature, technology, etc. etc. But all we teach our kids are the bad aspects while ignoring all the other cultures' ugly atrocities. |
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname: White European Christian culture looks pretty darned good in comparison. White European pre-Christian pagan culture was just as depraved as pagan culture anywhere else. Exactly. White guilt is unjustified. Slavery is something ALL races/cultures have done. War, genocide, etc. These are not uniquely white Euro characteristics. But I guess history is just which sets of facts get included and excluded. Wide perspective is something most people don't get, and that probably is universal. |
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Originally Posted By Haub:
Wouldn't that tend to favor Russia more than Ukraine? But I suppose Ukraine is closer to the edge of economic oblivion. And this is only about shipping, pipelines & refineries aren't part of that. 
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Wouldn't that tend to favor Russia more than Ukraine? But I suppose Ukraine is closer to the edge of economic oblivion. And this is only about shipping, pipelines & refineries aren't part of that. Turkey wants a ceasefire because it benefits Turkey. Turkey is losing tens of billions because of the strikes that are ongoing between Russia and Ukraine in the Black Sea. Türkiye's economic losses from the Russia-Ukraine war's disruption of Black Sea shipping could reach $20 billion over three months if the conflict along the Black Sea-Egypt route continues |
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Originally Posted By Haub:
57% @ 75% counted. https:// ria.ru/20260921/vybory-2119137098.html |
Baldassare Castiglione
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Amazing: During Operation Vivaldi, Ukrainian forces deployed ground robots behind Russian lines. The 3rd Army Corps reported that this maneuver was carried out for the first time in the world. Heavy bomber drones delivered the kamikaze robots, while air defense and electronic warfare systems suppressed Russian drones. "Wars are won by infantry, but we protect our infantrymen, so robots go to the enemy first" - 3rd Army Corps.  
Operation Vivaldi, Season 2 - Ukraine’s 3rd Army Corps confirms the liberation of Shandryholove and Derylove. Drobysheve is also under Ukrainian control. "During the second stage, more than 800 enemy servicemen were killed. Taking the wounded and captured into account, the enemy’s total losses exceeded 3,000 personnel," said Lieutenant General Andrii Biletskyi, commander of the 3rd Army Corps. So far, Operation Vivaldi liberated 125 square kilometers of Ukrainian territory, including 50 square kilometers that were de-occupied. "During assault operations, UAVs and ground robotic systems always move ahead of the infantry. The 3rd Army Corps was the first in the world to begin deploying ground robotic systems by air. Our heavy bombers deliver Kamikaze ground robotic systems more than 10 kilometers behind enemy lines," General Biletskyi said. 📹 3rd Army Corps
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Baldassare Castiglione
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🔥 Ukraine's Defense Forces knock out another ~4% of Russian oil refining capacity in attack on Moscow refinery. Yesterday, we tallied up the impact of Ukrainian strikes on Russian oil refineries since the start of September: previous attacks had already paralyzed roughly 10% of Russia’s total refining capacity. Today, September 20, defense forces took another major facility offline—this time right in Moscow. The Moscow Oil Refinery processes about 12.15 million metric tons of crude per year (roughly 245,000 barrels per day). With this latest strike, approximately 14% of Russia's total oil refining capacity has been knocked out in the first 20 days of September alone. These targeted strikes will continue until Russia stops terrorizing Ukrainian cities. 
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Baldassare Castiglione
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Close-quarters trench combat between Russian and Ukrainian soldiers, captured at terrifyingly short range, leaves fighters dead on both sides. https://x.com/AfghanOSINT0/status/2101616859875250546
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Baldassare Castiglione
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Trump decided against ordering U.S. airstrikes on Yemen’s Iran-backed Houthis for now, after briefly telling the Pentagon to prepare strikes following a personal appeal from Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, according to administration officials cited by the New York Times. Most of Trump’s inner circle reportedly opposed opening another front in the war. |
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😌 Map of Ukrainian UAV and missile activity across Russia as of the morning of September 21. Russian monitoring channels reported the detection of several Neptune missiles in Oryol Oblast, as well as jet-powered UAVs heading toward Moscow Oblast. In Ufa (1,350 km from Ukraine’s state border), a UAV attack was reported on an industrial area where several Bashneft oil refineries are located. These facilities were likely the targets of the strike. 
The refinery in Ufa has been welcoming Trump's initiative since early morning. But Putin doesn't want to. 
Ufa. In Ufa, there are three refineries: Bashneft-UNPZ (formerly the Ufa Oil Refinery), the oldest of the three, operating since 1938. Bashneft-Novoil (Novo-Ufimsky Oil Refinery) specializes in producing a wide range of high-quality oils and fuels. Bashneft-Ufaneftekhim is one of the largest refineries in the complex, with a high refining depth. https://t.me/istrebin/50842 |
Baldassare Castiglione
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In a surprise to no-one who's paid passing attention to Francesca Albanese through her many years of supporting and spreading Assad's propaganda, she has plenty of deeply idiotic takes that support murderous dictators. Here's another for the pile. Her support of Palestine is perhaps the only group of deeply oppressed people where I haven't seen her side with the oppressors. Certainly not the rule.
Festival of Open 2026, Albanese: "I agree with those who think we need to stop sending weapons to Kiev" - The video https://open.online/2026/09/20/festival-open-2026-francesca-albanese-stop-armi-kiev-video/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1789902401 
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Baldassare Castiglione
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Another remarkable air-defense position near the Moscow Oil Refinery during yesterday’s attack: a MANPADS team deployed on a raised work platform directly in the middle of a busy highway. The position was set up very close to the Pantsir system also seen operating beside the same highway. (55.6565174, 37.8446425) 
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EXCLUSIVE: spent weeks digging into a Russian government document never meant for public release. What struck me most wasn’t just the nuclear cooperation between Moscow and Tehran- it was how far their plans went in the two years roadmap. Aircraft parts, new rail routes, alternative payment systems - even "journalist training". Two heavily sanctioned countries working to make their partnership stronger and harder to disrupt. And we found evidence that some of those plans have already moved forward. Read our full investigation for Fox News Digital (link in the first comment) #russia #IranWar  
https://www.foxnews.com/world/exclusive-russian-document-reveals-sweeping-iran-plan-spanning-nuclear-finance-aviation NATO's chief says that if China moves on Taiwan, Xi's first call will be to Putin. Mark Rutte said it in Berlin on September 10. The purpose of that call, in his words: "to keep us busy here." His logic is simple. Russia is China's junior partner. A crisis in Europe would stretch NATO and U.S. forces so they can't focus on Asia. He repeated the warning during his UK visit on September 16 and 17. Rutte did not describe a pre-planned joint attack. He described a risk: a Taiwan crisis would quickly become a two-front problem. That's why he keeps pressing Europe to spend more on its own defense. If Beijing can use Moscow to split the West's attention, is Europe ready to defend itself?
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Baldassare Castiglione
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Originally Posted By michigan66: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/501718/IMG_7345_png-3830524.JPG
Unless we are going to fucking finish the Houthis for good (ZERO chance we have the time, ordinance, personnel, will, etc) then we should leave them be for now. Tell the Saudi's to rustle up some suicide pilot/bombers and send them at the Houthis. |
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Another remarkable air-defense position near the Moscow Oil Refinery during yesterday’s attack: a MANPADS team deployed on a raised work platform directly in the middle of a busy highway. The position was set up very close to the Pantsir system also seen operating beside the same highway. (55.6565174, 37.8446425) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSuiKDMXwAATypF?format=jpg&name=large
I bet all that netting provides some protection but proper warheads could work around it. maybe something with an EFP nose and some incendiary like thermite in the rear. The EFP blows a hole through the net and also into the tank causing oil/gas leaking while the thermite spread around burning and sparking ignites it. I think Id rather go to the front than man that 60' high MANPAD position. |
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Originally Posted By GBTX01:
A VERY old mine? Walking in the wrong area? Norks doing their usual dirty work planting something new? |
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Originally Posted By Prime: EXCLUSIVE: spent weeks digging into a Russian government document never meant for public release. What struck me most wasn’t just the nuclear cooperation between Moscow and Tehran- it was how far their plans went in the two years roadmap. Aircraft parts, new rail routes, alternative payment systems - even "journalist training". Two heavily sanctioned countries working to make their partnership stronger and harder to disrupt. And we found evidence that some of those plans have already moved forward. Read our full investigation for Fox News Digital (link in the first comment) #russia #IranWar https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSqxV5EXIAAyFwH?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HSqxbcqW4AE_JYz?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://www.foxnews.com/world/exclusive-russian-document-reveals-sweeping-iran-plan-spanning-nuclear-finance-aviation NATO's chief says that if China moves on Taiwan, Xi's first call will be to Putin. Mark Rutte said it in Berlin on September 10. The purpose of that call, in his words: "to keep us busy here." His logic is simple. Russia is China's junior partner. A crisis in Europe would stretch NATO and U.S. forces so they can't focus on Asia. He repeated the warning during his UK visit on September 16 and 17. Rutte did not describe a pre-planned joint attack. He described a risk: a Taiwan crisis would quickly become a two-front problem. That's why he keeps pressing Europe to spend more on its own defense. If Beijing can use Moscow to split the West's attention, is Europe ready to defend itself?
Putin would look at a conflict in the Pacific as HIS opportunity with NATO being distracted. I bet the Norks and Iran/Houthis would join in to further divide attention. |
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Originally Posted By Prime: EXCLUSIVE: spent weeks digging into a Russian government document never meant for public release. What struck me most wasn’t just the nuclear cooperation between Moscow and Tehran- it was how far their plans went in the two years roadmap. Aircraft parts, new rail routes, alternative payment systems - even "journalist training". Two heavily sanctioned countries working to make their partnership stronger and harder to disrupt. And we found evidence that some of those plans have already moved forward. Read our full investigation for Fox News Digital (link in the first comment) #russia #IranWar ] points like this are why Iran isn't going to just 'collapse'. ever. China / Russia / Iran et al are thick as thieves. their cooperation is too entrenched for the long-term and highly methodical. throw India in there too. |
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Putin must have placed a call to Trump. ============= Trump Urges Ukraine to Halt Russia Oil Strikes By Charlie McCarthy | Monday, 21 September 2026 08:10 AM EDT President Donald Trump on Sunday asked Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to stop Kyiv's strikes on Russian refineries over concerns that the attacks are driving up global diesel prices, it was reported. Trump repeatedly focused on diesel during his phone call with Zelenskyy and urged Ukraine to halt drone and missile attacks on Russian energy facilities, the Financial Times reported Monday, citing people familiar with the conversation. The president was particularly concerned about rising diesel prices and maintaining Russian supplies on the global market, according to the FT. Axios separately reported that Trump repeatedly pressed Zelenskyy about the refinery attacks during the call, with a person familiar with the conversation saying diesel was raised numerous times. The discussion came amid a global squeeze on diesel supplies that has sent prices sharply higher in the United States. https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-ukraine-volodymyr-zelenskyy/2026/09/21/id/1270088/ ========================== |
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Originally Posted By MFP_4073: Putin must have placed a call to Trump. ============= Trump Urges Ukraine to Halt Russia Oil Strikes By Charlie McCarthy | Monday, 21 September 2026 08:10 AM EDT President Donald Trump on Sunday asked Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to stop Kyiv's strikes on Russian refineries over concerns that the attacks are driving up global diesel prices, it was reported. Trump repeatedly focused on diesel during his phone call with Zelenskyy and urged Ukraine to halt drone and missile attacks on Russian energy facilities, the Financial Times reported Monday, citing people familiar with the conversation. The president was particularly concerned about rising diesel prices and maintaining Russian supplies on the global market, according to the FT. Axios separately reported that Trump repeatedly pressed Zelenskyy about the refinery attacks during the call, with a person familiar with the conversation saying diesel was raised numerous times. The discussion came amid a global squeeze on diesel supplies that has sent prices sharply higher in the United States. https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-ukraine-volodymyr-zelenskyy/2026/09/21/id/1270088/ ========================== Please don't defend your country because it's making me look bad. Also, ignore that whole middle east thing, that has nothing whatsoever to do with diesel prices! |
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Originally Posted By PsyTek: Please don't defend your country because it's making me look bad. Also, ignore that whole middle east thing, that has nothing whatsoever to do with diesel prices! This. For some it fuels the "Billions for Zelensky's yacht" for others it's offensive as we're not stupid. Is there an impact, sure, but ignoring the elephant in the room is dumb. |
I have also learned from experience that the greater part of our happiness or misery depends upon our dispositions, and not upon our circumstances.
Kites rise highest against the wind, not with it. - Churchill
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Originally Posted By MFP_4073: points like this are why Iran isn't going to just 'collapse'. ever. China / Russia / Iran et al are thick as thieves. their cooperation is too entrenched for the long-term and highly methodical. throw India in there too. Agreed. Taiwan or maybe Cuba could be embargoed and closed off until capitulation but Iran?....I dont think so. At best it will take YEARS and worst case they become like N. Korea. They dont give 2 shits about the economy, interest rate, inflation, or how the regime is polling with average Iranians as long as the regime survives and they stay in power. |
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Originally Posted By PsyTek: Please don't defend your country because it's making me look bad. Also, ignore that whole middle east thing, that has nothing whatsoever to do with diesel prices! "Take a hit for ME Volodimir. I need lower gas prices and you are the only ones I can bully. After the elections I will have more flexibility..." |
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Originally Posted By PsyTek: Please don't defend your country because it's making me look bad. Also, ignore that whole middle east thing, that has nothing whatsoever to do with diesel prices! Originally Posted By PsyTek: Originally Posted By MFP_4073: Putin must have placed a call to Trump. ============= Trump Urges Ukraine to Halt Russia Oil Strikes By Charlie McCarthy | Monday, 21 September 2026 08:10 AM EDT President Donald Trump on Sunday asked Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to stop Kyiv's strikes on Russian refineries over concerns that the attacks are driving up global diesel prices, it was reported. Trump repeatedly focused on diesel during his phone call with Zelenskyy and urged Ukraine to halt drone and missile attacks on Russian energy facilities, the Financial Times reported Monday, citing people familiar with the conversation. The president was particularly concerned about rising diesel prices and maintaining Russian supplies on the global market, according to the FT. Axios separately reported that Trump repeatedly pressed Zelenskyy about the refinery attacks during the call, with a person familiar with the conversation saying diesel was raised numerous times. The discussion came amid a global squeeze on diesel supplies that has sent prices sharply higher in the United States. https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-ukraine-volodymyr-zelenskyy/2026/09/21/id/1270088/ ========================== Please don't defend your country because it's making me look bad. Also, ignore that whole middle east thing, that has nothing whatsoever to do with diesel prices! Trump is pathologically transactional. He doesn't give anything unless he gets something. So what is he willing to give to zelensky in return for zelensky calling an end to the attacks on Russian fuel? |
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A crowded qat market in Ras al-Arah, near Bab al-Mandab, was hit by a large explosion today. Southern government sources point to a Houthi ballistic missile. Other accounts blame a Saudi airstrike. No casualties in initial reports. Weapon type and perpetrator remain unconfirmed.
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If anyone still doubted the US is being ran by a Putin puppet. Trump Says Potash Deal With Belarus in Works Amid Canada Fight President Donald Trump said the US is working with Belarus to secure more supplies of potash amid a trade fight with Canada, a major supplier of the critical ingredient used in fertilizers. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-09-21/trump-says-potash-deal-with-belarus-in-works-amid-canada-fight The oil "deals" direct with Russia are next. |