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11/30/2011 3:57:14 AM EDT
Merry Xmas!  


http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/todds-favorites/rhode-island-outraged-over-holiday-tree.html

A Rhode Island lawmaker is calling Gov. Lincoln Chafee “Governor Grinch” after he defied lawmakers and decided that the state would have a “holiday tree” instead of a “Christmas tree.”

The governor defended his decision by arguing that it is in keeping with the state’s founding in 1636 by religious dissident Roger Williams as a haven for tolerance – where government and religion were kept separate.

Instead of arguing over the tree, the governor called on lawmakers to focus their energy on feeding the poor.

“I would encourage all those engaged in this discussion – whatever their opinion on the matter – to use their energy and enthusiasm to make a positive difference in the lives of their fellow Rhode Islanders,” Chafee told the Associated Press.

11/30/2011 4:03:30 AM EDT
[#1]
So why put up a tree at all?
11/30/2011 4:14:30 AM EDT
[#2]
My cousin has known the Chaffee family for many years living in Potowanmet and I have met a few of them. This guy is more RINOl than his father (former US Senator). I believe he won election in a 3 way race and will be gone for some other Alpha Hotel next time around.
11/30/2011 4:18:24 AM EDT
[#3]
Just another reason why I hate living in this totally fucked up state.
11/30/2011 4:19:45 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
So why put up a tree at all?


This! If it can't be what it's supposed to be, why have the symbol at all.
11/30/2011 4:21:06 AM EDT
[#5]
This doesn't bother me.


<––doesn't do the 'tree' thing anyway.

11/30/2011 4:22:21 AM EDT
[#6]
I find it hilarious that Christians are pissed that a Pagan symbol is not named after their holiday. It's expressly forbiden, in the bible, to cut and decorate a tree. It is in the old testement, though, so I guess that makes it ok.
11/30/2011 4:25:22 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I find it hilarious that Christians are pissed that a Pagan symbol is not named after their holiday. It's expressly forbiden, in the bible, to cut and decorate a tree. It is in the old testement, though, so I guess that makes it ok.


Link?
11/30/2011 4:46:40 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
So why put up a tree at all?


This war on Christmas has to be stopped.
American Christians are being discriminated against at every turn
while Secular Humanists, Buddists, Muslims, Wiccians, FSM worshipers are practicing their faith, often time in the public square with NO repurcussions
as this results in HATE Crimes..
IF the Mayor wants to be a Secular Humanist then have NOTHING and let the people decide next election cycle.

there is NO FREEDOME FROM RELIGION in the Constitution and NO separation of Church and state,,there is to be NO CHURCH ESTABLISHED by the state
ALA Henry the 8th....

Congress shall make no law respective to establishing a religion; or prohibiting the free exercise thereof


"It is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favors." ––George Washington, Thanksgiving Proclamation, 1789

1789, 2 years after the ratification of the Constitution,,with out Virtue, with out GOD, a free Republic will fail


11/30/2011 4:48:00 AM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:


So why put up a tree at all?


Well for the holidays! Where is your holiday spirit?







 
11/30/2011 4:50:46 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I find it hilarious that Christians are pissed that a Pagan symbol is not named after their holiday. It's expressly forbiden, in the bible, to cut and decorate a tree. It is in the old testement, though, so I guess that makes it ok.


Link?


   Jeremiah 10 NIV

   1 Hear what the LORD says to you, O house of Israel. 2 This is what the LORD says:
   “Do not learn the ways of the nations
   or be terrified by signs in the sky,
   though the nations are terrified by them.
   3 For the customs of the peoples are worthless;
   they cut a tree out of the forest,
   and a craftsman shapes it with his chisel. 4 They adorn it with silver and gold;
   they fasten it with hammer and nails
   so it will not totter.
   King James Version

    3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
   Hebrew Masoretic Text
   
   3 For the customs of the peoples are vanity; for it is but a tree which one cutteth out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman with the axe.
   
   Septuagint
   
   3 because the precepts of the nations are vain: there is a tree from the forest, cut down, a work of a craftsman, and a molten image.


   5 Like a scarecrow in a melon patch,
   their idols cannot speak;
   they must be carried
   because they cannot walk.
   Do not fear them;
   they can do no harm
   nor can they do any good.”
11/30/2011 4:52:52 AM EDT
[#11]



Quoted:



Quoted:

So why put up a tree at all?




This war on Christmas has to be stopped.

American Christians are being discriminated against at every turn

while Secular Humanists, Buddists, Muslims, Wiccians, FSM worshipers are practicing their faith, often time in the public square with NO repurcussions

as this results in HATE Crimes..

IF the Mayor wants to be a Secular Humanist then have NOTHING and let the people decide next election cycle.



there is NO FREEDOME FROM RELIGION in the Constitution and NO separation of Church and state,,there is to be NO CHURCH ESTABLISHED by the state

ALA Henry the 8th....



Congress shall make no law respective to establishing a religion; or prohibiting the free exercise thereof





"It is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favors." ––George Washington, Thanksgiving Proclamation, 1789



1789, 2 years after the ratification of the Constitution,,with out Virtue, with out GOD, a free Republic will fail











 
11/30/2011 4:55:03 AM EDT
[#12]
I can live w/o the state otherwise meddling in my personal beliefs.  I don't really give a damn if it wants to put up anything or nothing at all.  I will do what I please in my own home & the state can leave me alone.  That's all I really expect or want.

Basically, the gov't should keep the peace, maintain the public infrastructure, & otherwise butt out.
11/30/2011 4:55:10 AM EDT
[#13]
Ah, the time of the year is upon us where all we do is look to be offended while we empty our wallets.



I never understood why so many people get offended over this sort of stuff. Enjoy your Christmas if you can not do that without every town square and every store doing the same thing, then maybe you need to reassess your relationship.



I am not bothered by this sort of thing.