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Posted: 8/12/2004 12:05:41 PM EDT

For another forum:

He replied to someone posting: "It's nothing of your f-ing business what we, the law abiding gun owners, do with our legally purchased assalt weapons."

Yeah it is my freaking business. You got a problem with that, chief?

What happens when a former "law-abiding gun owner" decides to stop being law-abiding and/or goes postal? Huh? Or what if a law-abiding AK owner gets offered 10k to part with his law-abiding piece to some less law abiding dude?

They walk into Publix with an M-16 on full automatic and the security guard has a 9mm. Some want the rest of us to assume risks like that just so they can have a more powerful weenie enlarger.

Some gun nuts want to take cops off the street as a direct consequence of tax cuts, because they're greedy, cheap bastards, and they want to put a lot of private automatic firepower out there instead.

Freakin brilliant.

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:06:54 PM EDT

[#1]

Ask him what happens when the same person goes postal and instead decides to drive his heavy SUV into a kindergarden playground at high speed.

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:08:16 PM EDT

[#2]

No legal puchased FA weapon has EVER been used in a crime...except MAYBE one time.

Tell the guy to fuck off.

Sgtar15

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:08:51 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Ask him what happens when the same person goes postal and instead decides to drive his heavy SUV into a kindergarden playground at high speed.

WHAT???

I can do that!!!

Damn....why didn't someone tell me!

BRB

SGtar15

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:08:55 PM EDT

[#4]

what the hell is private automatic firepower?

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:09:01 PM EDT

[#5]

So, he's a proponent of the childproofing of society. I wonder if he enjoys the occasional drink. How about diggin fast cars. How about controversial music, or even porn. The abuse potential is there in all these cases. He thinks like Jerry Fallwell. The normal response here is that guns are different, but that is an admission that scope, and not ideology is on his mind. Everyone views scope differently. Many wouldn't car if 'big meanie' dogs were outlawed, but would that be right?

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:09:13 PM EDT

[#6]

Tell him the security guards and the rest of the people in the building should 'at all times be armed' and then he wouldn't have to worry about the "Big Bad Wolf' coming in to slaughter the sheep.

BigDozer66

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:09:22 PM EDT

[#7]

Why do you think a reply is needed? I didn't see anything there that rated a reply; no indication of enough intelligence to comprehend the truth. Walk on by.

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:10:15 PM EDT

[#8]

They dont trust me enough to own a gun, but they trust me enough to obey the law.

Thats all you need to say.

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:11:07 PM EDT

[#9]

First off I'd point out that AK47s and M16s aren't at issue with the AWB, no full-auto weapons will be effected at all.

Then I'd point out that almost any technology can be used to create mayhem and death if somebody goes postal. Vehicles, fertilizer, fuel, anything.

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:15:08 PM EDT

[#10]

Ask him what law exists, or even could be enacted, that will keep a criminal from committing the crime of murder???

ONLY if they can legislatively UNINVENT the gun.

Guns exist. NO LAW can stop them from being used illegally.

As gun crime comprises about 2% of gun ownership, ask him what other things (alcohol, cars, butter knives, etc) would he want banned as they are used for crimes at a FAR greater rate than guns are???

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:21:07 PM EDT

[#11]

Thanks for the help guys he started retracting some of his statement anyway.

You can have all the boom-booms you want, except you can't have a Bradley Fighting Vehicle, M1A1 Tank, LAWS Rocket, RPG, AK-47 or M-16.

Besides, how do I know you're a law-abiding gun-owner? For all I know you may be possessed by the devil.

All this started because of the Brady Campaign complaint letter about Armalite that I was laughing at over on a football forum.

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:23:36 PM EDT

[#12]

Tell him it doesn't matter if you are possesed or not. Innocent until proven guilty.

It is your right to own a gun, until you get that right taken away

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:26:52 PM EDT

[#13]

People like that it won't matter what you say. Recognise them for the dumbasses they are and move on. You won't convince them and they won't convince you.

mike

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:30:45 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Thanks for the help guys he started retracting some of his statement anyway.

You can have all the boom-booms you want, except you can't have a Bradley Fighting Vehicle, M1A1 Tank, LAWS Rocket, RPG, AK-47 or M-16.

Besides, how do I know you're a law-abiding gun-owner? For all I know you may be possessed by the devil.

All this started because of the Brady Campaign complaint letter about Armalite that I was laughing at over on a football forum.

This is an easy one. He'll know you're possessed by the devil when you start attacking private gun ownership and endorsing gun control.

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:31:16 PM EDT

[#15]

I felt I should respond to the guy, not so much for him, but other people who hadn't posted on the thread yet. A little background on the guy: He hates the religious especially the likes of Jerry Fallwell, thats why I included it. My reply (with your help):

I'll put this in bold because it's important, GUNS DON'T CAUSE CRIME. The same people that you describe just deciding to go on a rampage would have an easier time taking their SUV and driving through a kindergarten playground.

You sound alot like the people you hate, like Jerry Fallwell. Porn causes sex crimes. Violent movies cause murder. Liquor causes rape. Religion causes terrorism. GJ.

Also:
Some gun nuts want to take cops off the street as a direct consequence of tax cuts, because they're greedy, cheap bastards, and they want to put a lot of private automatic firepower out there instead.

Not quite, but it's a fact that Police do want their citizens unarmed. It makes their jobs alot easier with a disarmed population, ask Nazi Germany.

You can have all the boom-booms you want, except you can't have a Bradley Fighting Vehicle, M1A1 Tank, LAWS Rocket, RPG, AK-47 or M-16.

Absolutely NONE OF THESE ARE AFFECTED BY THIS LAW. This law applies only to semiautomatic firearms.

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:32:34 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
No legal puchased FA weapon has EVER been used in a crime...except MAYBE one time.

Tell the guy to fuck off.

Sgtar15

it was once, and believe it or not, the guy who did it was a cop
IIRC, he used a registered M11 .380

Posted: 8/12/2004 12:42:11 PM EDT

[#17]

Or ask him what if some one 21 or older buys beer or booze for a minor and they crash their car and kill a family of 5? What a dumb ass!!!

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