Posted: 12/21/2015 3:07:57 AM EDT
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My girlfriend has a 2008 Mazda 3, 5 speed, no frills such as power windows or locks. I want to install a remote start for her, is this something I could do myself? I've got a moderate amount of skill and experience, I've put in many car stereos over the years and can generally figure things out with instructions. The thing about the clutch bypass has me wondering if I'd be in over my head. Also, the car has a chipped key, so I don't know if the immobilizer would cause any issues.
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5 speed bad idea you only have to leave it in gear one time for it to be a very costly mistake Quoted:
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don't do it. 5 speed bad idea you only have to leave it in gear one time for it to be a very costly mistake Ah, I was under the impression that it wouldn't operate if the car was in gear, only if left in neutral. |
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Quoted: Ah, I was under the impression that it wouldn't operate if the car was in gear, only if left in neutral. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: don't do it. 5 speed bad idea you only have to leave it in gear one time for it to be a very costly mistake Ah, I was under the impression that it wouldn't operate if the car was in gear, only if left in neutral. no way for the remote start to know that, the car doesn't keep track of where the shifter is. It would be cool if there was a way. |
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don't do it. Let someone who knows what their doing install it for you. You will need to program an immobilizer bypass. 5 speed is not the problem. Remote starts these days are equipped with features to prevent starting in gear. Of course they only work if installed correctly. |
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don't do it. 5 speed bad idea you only have to leave it in gear one time for it to be a very costly mistake It's great fun hitting it and seeing people reactions when the car jumps ahead a couple feet lol. |
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no way for the remote start to know that, the car doesn't keep track of where the shifter is. It would be cool if there was a way. Quoted:
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don't do it. 5 speed bad idea you only have to leave it in gear one time for it to be a very costly mistake Ah, I was under the impression that it wouldn't operate if the car was in gear, only if left in neutral. no way for the remote start to know that, the car doesn't keep track of where the shifter is. It would be cool if there was a way. I had a remote start in Alaska on a 5 speed Tacoma. Started my truck after work at the bar. It ended up two blocks down the road.  Luckily it was a huge snow parking lot.
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I have one in my 5 speed '08 Tacoma. You need a bypass immobilizer installed.
For it to work I have to depress the brake peddle and set the parking brake before I kill the engine. If by chance touch the brake pedal or the parking brake before I get out, the remote start will not work. I tested it in gear once. It lurched forward a tiny bit and the engine promptly shut off. I then had to turn the key to restart it. the remote wouldn't do it unless I reset the system again. Let a shop do it. |
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I have one in my 5 speed '08 Tacoma. You need a bypass immobilizer installed. For it to work I have to depress the brake peddle and set the parking brake before I kill the engine. If by chance touch the brake pedal or the parking brake before I get out, the remote start will not work. I tested it in gear once. It lurched forward a tiny bit and the engine promptly shut off. I then had to turn the key to restart it. the remote wouldn't do it unless I reset the system again. Let a shop do it. Ok, this is mostly then results I was expecting. There's a very reputable shop in town, I'll go see what they have to say, thanks all! |
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Not very typical in a standard trans. Possible, but some shops might not install due to liability. If they know what they are doing, they can install it safely.
My Jeep came with one and I really didn't want it, but since the Jeep had every other option I wanted, I bought it. Thought it would have no value, but I use it all the time now. |
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My buddy thought he was smart enough to remember to leave his car in neutral when he installed his remote start.
Then he cranked his car on in another buddies driveway and plowed his car into the back of other buddies van and slammed that into the garage door which tore it out of the rails. |
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don't do it. 5 speed bad idea you only have to leave it in gear one time for it to be a very costly mistake We had a customer come in with a 5 speed rsx. The tech was hitting the remote looking for the car. It was an oem remote and if you hit lock 3 times the car remote starts. The car was left in gear with the parking brake on and it started on its own and drove right in to a curb and hit the dumpster. Luckily no one was hurt. Remote starters are a bad idea on manual transmissions. |
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no way for the remote start to know that, the car doesn't keep track of where the shifter is. It would be cool if there was a way. Quoted:
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don't do it. 5 speed bad idea you only have to leave it in gear one time for it to be a very costly mistake Ah, I was under the impression that it wouldn't operate if the car was in gear, only if left in neutral. no way for the remote start to know that, the car doesn't keep track of where the shifter is. It would be cool if there was a way. That's what makes it so dangerous. It may not be the owner who fucks up. It could be a valet, a tech, or someone you let borrow the car who leaves it in gear. |
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my diesel excursion has a viper remote start. with no command from the remote or my phone it started and ran for over 2.5 hours inside my locked garage a week ago Sunday. the look of pure terror on my wife's face as she threw her purse and bags on the ground as she made a mad dash to get our dog out of the house was disturbing. it was a miracle the fumes had not entered the house. |
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don't do it. 5 speed bad idea you only have to leave it in gear one time for it to be a very costly mistake This I have seen this happen more than once. |
| I'm thinking now that just an extra key so she can start it and leave it locked might be a better option. She's very responsible, and I'm the only other person who would have access to her car, but as stated in several posts above, once is all it takes. Better safe than sorry. |
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You don't install remote starts on manual transmission vehicles.... they always start better in gear!
You'll be lucky to find a shop to do one on a manual, on half the newer vehicles I spend more time installing and programming bypass modules than installing the entire system. |
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I'm thinking now that just an extra key so she can start it and leave it locked might be a better option. She's very responsible, and I'm the only other person who would have access to her car, but as stated in several posts above, once is all it takes. Better safe than sorry. There's only one key to her car?
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There's only one key to her car?
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I'm thinking now that just an extra key so she can start it and leave it locked might be a better option. She's very responsible, and I'm the only other person who would have access to her car, but as stated in several posts above, once is all it takes. Better safe than sorry. There's only one key to her car?
Yeah, bought it used, only one came with it. Because it's chipped, new ones are expensive as fuck, so we've put it off. Only time it's been locked in AAA came in handy. |
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Bought a new Tacoma and had the stereo changed out and my 1st ever remote start put in, it's a 6 speed.
A large Alpine dealer/installer did it, didn't bat an eye at doing it, but did ding me an extra $100. I get where I'm going, pull the parking brake and have it in neutral, pull key out and leave. It needs to see the parking brake engaged, but it also needs to see the driver's door open and close, at that point, the theory is that it saw the driver get out, and that couldn't happen if it was still in gear, so it's now safe to shut down and restart with a push of the button on the remote. |
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Yeah, bought it used, only one came with it. Because it's chipped, new ones are expensive as fuck, so we've put it off. Only time it's been locked in AAA came in handy. Quoted:
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I'm thinking now that just an extra key so she can start it and leave it locked might be a better option. She's very responsible, and I'm the only other person who would have access to her car, but as stated in several posts above, once is all it takes. Better safe than sorry. There's only one key to her car?
Yeah, bought it used, only one came with it. Because it's chipped, new ones are expensive as fuck, so we've put it off. Only time it's been locked in AAA came in handy. Dealers are outrageous for new chipped keys. My local Pierre’s lock shop did one for $37ish. Dealer wanted at least $100. Had to have the truck there to do it. OR Get the key copied without the chip in it ($3). Leave the chipped key in the ignition. Use the non chipped key to open the door only. Also consider putting a non chipped key somewhere on the vehicle to be able to gain access in case the chipped key gets locked inside. |
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Bought a new Tacoma and had the stereo changed out and my 1st ever remote start put in, it's a 6 speed. A large Alpine dealer/installer did it, didn't bat an eye at doing it, but did ding me an extra $100. I get where I'm going, pull the parking brake and have it in neutral, pull key out and leave. It needs to see the parking brake engaged, but it also needs to see the driver's door open and close, at that point, the theory is that it saw the driver get out, and that couldn't happen if it was still in gear, so it's now safe to shut down and restart with a push of the button on the remote. 
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5 speed bad idea you only have to leave it in gear one time for it to be a very costly mistake Quoted:
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don't do it. 5 speed bad idea you only have to leave it in gear one time for it to be a very costly mistake You could wire the starter circuit with a normally open switch that closes when the car is put in neutral. |
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Quoted: Dealers are outrageous for new chipped keys. My local Pierre’s lock shop did one for $37ish. Dealer wanted at least $100. Had to have the truck there to do it. OR Get the key copied without the chip in it ($3). Leave the chipped key in the ignition. Use the non chipped key to open the door only. Also consider putting a non chipped key somewhere on the vehicle to be able to gain access in case the chipped key gets locked inside. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm thinking now that just an extra key so she can start it and leave it locked might be a better option. She's very responsible, and I'm the only other person who would have access to her car, but as stated in several posts above, once is all it takes. Better safe than sorry. There's only one key to her car? Yeah, bought it used, only one came with it. Because it's chipped, new ones are expensive as fuck, so we've put it off. Only time it's been locked in AAA came in handy. Dealers are outrageous for new chipped keys. My local Pierre’s lock shop did one for $37ish. Dealer wanted at least $100. Had to have the truck there to do it. OR Get the key copied without the chip in it ($3). Leave the chipped key in the ignition. Use the non chipped key to open the door only. Also consider putting a non chipped key somewhere on the vehicle to be able to gain access in case the chipped key gets locked inside. |
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Bought a new Tacoma and had the stereo changed out and my 1st ever remote start put in, it's a 6 speed. A large Alpine dealer/installer did it, didn't bat an eye at doing it, but did ding me an extra $100. I get where I'm going, pull the parking brake and have it in neutral, pull key out and leave. It needs to see the parking brake engaged, but it also needs to see the driver's door open and close, at that point, the theory is that it saw the driver get out, and that couldn't happen if it was still in gear, so it's now safe to shut down and restart with a push of the button on the remote. Sounds funny, but works.....you can't leave it in gear and defeat it, because you break the sequence, it doesn't shut down until after it sees the door open signal and the key is out. If you shut it off and leave it in gear, you shut it off instead of it shutting it off....no remote start....and you sure as hell aren't going to figure out how to leave it in gear with the engine still running with the key out of the ignition. It needs to see a parking brake and no regular brake, that will allow you to take the key out and it remains running. it next sees the drivers door open and close...that shuts the engine off and gives the permissive to allow for a remote start. Not what the OP wanted, just sharing that they do indeed have remote starts for a manual transmission. https://support.compustar.com/hc/en-us/articles/202512804-Will-Compustar-remote-starters-work-on-a-manual-transmission-vehicle- 
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my diesel excursion has a viper remote start. with no command from the remote or my phone it started and ran for over 2.5 hours inside my locked garage a week ago Sunday. the look of pure terror on my wife's face as she threw her purse and bags on the ground as she made a mad dash to get our dog out of the house was disturbing. it was a miracle the fumes had not entered the house. I have a friend that had an aftermarket installed in his newer pickup. It has randomly locked him out three times- twice in the garage. And once when he was out hunting in the middle of no-where-ville. (Like Kansas  )- that incident could have ended poorly, smashed-window-for-entry poorly. I am leery of these Chinese aftermarket things. I-phones work, but sounds like there are still bugs in these...
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Bought a new Tacoma and had the stereo changed out and my 1st ever remote start put in, it's a 6 speed. A large Alpine dealer/installer did it, didn't bat an eye at doing it, but did ding me an extra $100. I get where I'm going, pull the parking brake and have it in neutral, pull key out and leave. It needs to see the parking brake engaged, but it also needs to see the driver's door open and close, at that point, the theory is that it saw the driver get out, and that couldn't happen if it was still in gear, so it's now safe to shut down and restart with a push of the button on the remote. Don't you guys have problems with parking brake cables freezing up in that slushy, frozen hell up there?
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Don't you guys have problems with parking brake cables freezing up in that slushy, frozen hell up there? Quoted:
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Bought a new Tacoma and had the stereo changed out and my 1st ever remote start put in, it's a 6 speed. A large Alpine dealer/installer did it, didn't bat an eye at doing it, but did ding me an extra $100. I get where I'm going, pull the parking brake and have it in neutral, pull key out and leave. It needs to see the parking brake engaged, but it also needs to see the driver's door open and close, at that point, the theory is that it saw the driver get out, and that couldn't happen if it was still in gear, so it's now safe to shut down and restart with a push of the button on the remote. Don't you guys have problems with parking brake cables freezing up in that slushy, frozen hell up there? Too new, this will be its first winter. I rarely use the parking brake, looks like I'll be getting in the habit of it, if I want to have a warm truck after my shift. The cable on my Ranger did fuck up from not getting used. |