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5/1/2015 11:05:48 PM EDT
My name is Jeremy and I am a 3 year E-3 corpsman in the navy and have been struggling with my orders. The whole story is I have submitted 2 SF packets that have been lost in the process, while talking to my career counselor i was told my orders would be put on hold while i work on my packets. In this time I have exceed my orders window for picking on CMSID and am now 4 months our from my PCS date. So i called the detailer this last cycle to pick my top 5 over the phone, he never put in my top 5 orders or anything for that matter. I called back today when orders were posted and I had nothing and was told that I never picked anything and i would be given one more chance this next cycle to call in and pick 5 orders or i would be sent needs of the navy. I have been talking with FreefallM4 (my dad) about this as he is still active duty army and he explained the way orders work for the army and how stupid and odd this all sounds to him. I was hoping to get some advise or anything I might be able to do to help myself out of this problem I am trying very hard to go serve with the Marines as a field medic and continue my work on my SF packet to be a Special Amphibious Reconnaissance Corpsman (SARC). My command has been no help in telling me this is just the way it is and telling me no to worry about it that its all out of my hands but I don't like that idea, I have had no backing in the 2 years I have been here people are more concerned with boosting there carrier and screwing anyone without a crow on there collar.

Can anyone provide some advice or am I just out of luck and doomed to be another number to BIG NAVY?
5/1/2015 11:15:44 PM EDT
[#1]
This is my boy and he got my username wrong



Any help would be appreciated



Free
5/1/2015 11:18:20 PM EDT
[#2]
its been a long day and i know you use both E7 and M4 so i was close.
Thank you for the help though.
5/1/2015 11:23:10 PM EDT
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5/1/2015 11:51:22 PM EDT
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Long story short, you have a turd for a career counselor. If you're not under orders within in your first three months of your nine month window, you are needs of the Navy. You are going to get sent somewhere. Make the best of it and don't be bitter. There is always the next duty station. Be glad, during full wartime, none of this matters.

This happened to me and I ended up as a recruiter which is the last thing in the world I wanted. I made the best of it and moved on.

Read the MILPERSMAN section 1300, the entire thing. It's what governs everything with duty assignments. Knowledge is power...READ the rules! You can get the entire MILPERSMAN on the NPC website via references.

By the way, I retired two years ago as a MCPO with 30 years in.

I know this news sucks man, but you'd be surprised how your attitude affects how much you get out of a duty assignment. After all, they are called orders.
5/2/2015 12:14:27 AM EDT
[#5]
Your right its not exactly what I wanted to hear but it's what i was expecting. Thank you for that advise and the document to read though MCPO.
It doesn't kill my motivation though I knew i would be sent places I didn't really want to go, it's all part of the job right.
Its all part of a learning experience though, and I can pass it on to maybe save someone else this headache later on.
5/2/2015 1:22:39 AM EDT
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What do your evals look like?
5/2/2015 1:43:11 AM EDT
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I was seven years Navy.  I'll bet the two incidents of 'lost' paperwork were not accidental.
5/2/2015 9:22:00 AM EDT
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If the command has a full-time professional career counselor this is a major fuck-up. His or her single job is taking care of the young guys like you who need guidance and help getting what's best for them.  If you CC is worthless reach out to a near-by command's for help. Tell them what happen and find out if it's too late but as was mentioned above you're outside your window now. The service plans 6-12 months in advance who's going where and you might already be caught up in the gear train.

This happened to me coming out of my first school. I graduated top of my A school class ~120 guys ... actually second in the class but the honor grad got caught cheating ... so I got guaranteed follow-up training to C school. Everyone else got orders to the fleet and I was expecting mine to Lowry Air Force Base near Denver. My orders don't arrive. I ask for the east coast for a ship out of Norfolk VA. I get a ship off the east coast ... the east coast of Japan! Best thing that ever happened to me. The USS Midway was a steaming son of a bitch and I learned my shit twice as fast as everyone who didn't steam as hard. Turns out my detailer took a three week vacation and my paperwork dropped through somewhere. Karma was good and after 9-12 months on Midway they sent me as a fleet returnee to the school at Lowry.

Going to SF used to be you had to spend a year at your command before being eligible ... and then you could go off to school to return if you failed or go if you didn't. That was years and years ago.

The best advice I read here was to not be bitter. That bad attitude will destroy your tour. Make the best of it ... the Lord and Navy move in mysterious ways. Keep your feet on the deck and keep reaching for dream! If you're heading towards the fleet use this chance to knock out your warfare qualifications.

Paul
EMCM (SW/AW) USN ret.
5/2/2015 9:57:22 AM EDT
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All my evals are above average MP


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5/2/2015 10:17:16 AM EDT
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Thanks for the advise guys,
I will make the best of whatever comes and having a warfare pen be nice.
I am just trying to look at it all as a learning experience and just keep on keeping on.
5/3/2015 10:40:31 PM EDT
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So have you received orders to your next duty station?
5/5/2015 11:40:06 AM EDT
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No I am still waiting on orders at the moment I have nothing.
5/11/2015 12:31:35 PM EDT
[#13]
Talked to his detailer and he got the Lejune billet
5/11/2015 12:35:41 PM EDT
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Nice. Being Green side should help a lot with his SARC goals.
5/11/2015 8:49:27 PM EDT
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5/12/2015 11:46:10 PM EDT
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You mean as in run away or he needs to run?



He's my Son, running is not a issue

       
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5/13/2015 11:50:32 AM EDT
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I was going to say call his detailer. Is it an FMF billet?
5/17/2015 10:39:45 PM EDT
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RGR,

 2nd Marine Division

       
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5/28/2015 4:44:18 PM EDT
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Good Deal....His CC was a Turd! Any schmo CC worth a damn can get an HM FMF orders----those ARE the needs of the Navy..
I did 11 of my 20 greenside. Enjoy your time with the FMF!  For your first tour , go marine Regs...
5/29/2015 6:06:41 PM EDT
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Hey I am a Recon Marine so the only corpsman I ever worked with were SARCs. Do you know the steps you need to take to get in the pipeline or are you lost in the sauce and need help?
5/29/2015 8:35:17 PM EDT
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I ran into one of my old battery corpsman at JFO school. I asked him what the hell he was doing and he told me about SARCs. That would be a very cool path.
6/7/2015 7:44:01 AM EDT
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Former GM2, OEF vet.

Op, needs of the navy are why I finally got out. I did my time proudly, but at the end of the day you are a service number and nothing more. I am guessing making rank these days is tougher than ever. I was given E3 at the end of boot and had my crow about a year and a half later. I got a field promotion in 2010 to PO2 and was pretty happy because the rate was locked up. Not too many GMs were getting to 1st class after that date, unless you were field promoted it seemed. My options from there were to look into other branches, or maybe an LDO program.

What I really should have done is went after the riverines program that they kept pushing in A school. It seemed that guys were getting promoted really well if you made it through the training and found a good unit.

6/7/2015 9:20:39 PM EDT
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Not sure

They are still jerking him around, detailer said he wasn't on this list I talked to the detailer and Chief Jordan and they are trying to get him fixed by the 15th.



I thought the Army was bad until I started helping out my son. His COC are turds, his CC is a turd pretty much he has a awesome post at Pensacola

but his leadership couldn't get a squad of Ranger students to a burger king.



Really sad, hopefully Lejune will be better, if not I'm going to try and get him to go Blue to Green and be a 18X.



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7/5/2015 9:26:20 AM EDT
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If you do go greenside I can almost 100% agree you'll like it. As with anywhere, some units will suck and some will be awesome. At least it appears you have a great attitude and open mind about the situation
10/19/2015 9:21:37 AM EDT
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Spent a little over 14 active in the Navy before they sent me home for being too broken and non deployable.  Make sure you have a copy of all the paperwork send up. Keep pushing, a lot of times folks don't want to do their jobs, but the squeaky wheel gets the kick. Send emails over just talk, make sure you read receipt the emails and cc your chief and department head on them as well. Don't be afraid to bring your chief into the mix, a lot can get squared away in the goat locker. Good luck.