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6/6/2005 4:28:46 PM EDT
I have a question for all of you, Belloc is of the mind that the Pink Pistols are gay agenda smoke screen. This is the post in question

"Ignore them, they're rather a witless lot. In the same way one should ignore "Pederasts with Pistols" if they existed, or loons with long arms, recalcitrants with rifles, and silly twits with slingshots.
That was just having a little fun with you. The simple fact is that even the name "pink pistols" undermines the cause intrinsically by removing from the discussion, by it's very name, the seriousness and dignity any debate for preserving the God given rights of man deserves, requires, and demands.
The very fact that those who make the conscience choice to engage in acts of sodomy and who believe in the RKBA feel the need to link the two is itself quite revealling. They are simply trying to use a legitimate fight to push their agenda. I don't know if it is more tragic, or pathetic."

Now how do you all see us?

A. Gay agenda group

B. 2nd Amend supporters
6/6/2005 4:32:09 PM EDT
[#1]
without reading your post..... 5
6/6/2005 4:32:14 PM EDT
[#2]
Why would you listen to anything Belloc says?






Whatever his opinion is, mine is the opposite.  


Seriously - I don't know a whole lot about the PP, but I always got the impression that they are strong 2nd Amandement supporters.
6/6/2005 4:32:24 PM EDT
[#3]
B. 2nd Amend supporters

Where's the poll?  
6/6/2005 4:38:40 PM EDT
[#4]

<Edited>
6/6/2005 4:39:58 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Why would you listen to anything Belloc says?






Whatever his opinion is, mine is the opposite.  


Seriously - I don't know a whole lot about the PP, but I always got the impression that they are strong 2nd Amandement supporters.



I don't care what Belloc thinks...but I'm interested in how this board views the Pistols. This is one of the largest gun boards on the web after all.
6/6/2005 4:40:56 PM EDT
[#6]
I'm confused.
6/6/2005 4:42:23 PM EDT
[#7]
In my opinion the answer to the question is "both".  However, as I am forced to choose between the options I voted "2nd Amendment supporters".
6/6/2005 4:44:13 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:

I don't care what Belloc thinks...but I'm interested in how this board views the Pistols. This is one of the largest gun boards on the web after all.




I realized that when I read your post more carefully - but I had already made an ass of myself.
6/6/2005 4:44:19 PM EDT
[#9]

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<Edited>



"WE" are more than just a "guns of homo's group"....Kim [kacer] isn't just flogging Best Buy so gays can carry in the store. No we are not the NRA...BUT WE DO TRY
6/6/2005 4:44:39 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
I'm confused.






6/6/2005 4:45:37 PM EDT
[#11]
Both. Dude, if I led a pro 2nd ammendment group, you would be more than welcome as a member. I can find no good reason to form a group called "Straight Shooters"  and imply that it's members are heterosexual. Doing so would not further my goals, as a person's sexual identity and their place in society are of no consequence to my right to keep and bear arms.
6/6/2005 4:45:58 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I'm confused.



About what?
6/6/2005 4:46:31 PM EDT
[#13]
C. Both of the above.

They are a pro-gun gay/lesbian group, seems like a real easy answer to me.
I really don't care if they are gay/lesbian as long as they don't shove it in my face. I do think they are a fantastic counter-leftist group. The lefties can't attack them too much with out contradicting themselves worse than usual.
6/6/2005 4:50:45 PM EDT
[#14]
how does the group vote? niether of the major parties support both of their interests-just wondering
6/6/2005 4:51:07 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Both. Dude, if I led a pro 2nd ammendment group, you would be more than welcome as a member. I can find no good reason to form a group called "Straight Shooters"  and imply that it's members are heterosexual. Doing so would not further my goals, as a person's sexual identity and their place in society are of no consequence to my right to keep and bear arms.



And you a welcome in the Pistols now, but most mainstream LGBT don't get the 2nd admenment message and thinks the NRA wants them dead....so "we" try to disspell that.
6/6/2005 4:52:38 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
how does the group vote? niether of the major parties support both of their interests-just wondering



Pro gun always
6/6/2005 4:53:09 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm confused.



About what?



Who are the Pink Pistols is a start?
6/6/2005 4:54:23 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
how does the group vote? niether of the major parties support both of their interests-just wondering



Pro gun always


pro 2nd amendment group in that case
6/6/2005 4:58:53 PM EDT
[#19]
Ah the age old questions:

Is the enemy of my enemy my friend?

Is the friend of my enemy my enemy?

Funny I haven't heard a question like this brought up about the JPFO or the SAS.  As in is the JPFO a Jewish agenda group or are the SAS a womens rights organization.

Believe it or not there are Gays who lean toward conservativism and we're not talking about NAMBLA here.

I voted B.
6/6/2005 4:59:49 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm confused.



About what?



Who are the Pink Pistols is a start?




www.pinkpistols.org
6/6/2005 5:00:59 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
how does the group vote? niether of the major parties support both of their interests-just wondering



Pro gun always

not the way 1 of your other members voted last election.  1 of the other one's here voted for kerry last election
6/6/2005 5:02:22 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm confused.



About what?



Who are the Pink Pistols is a start?




www.pinkpistols.org



So that is where Clean_Cut has been lately
6/6/2005 5:03:57 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
how does the group vote? niether of the major parties support both of their interests-just wondering



Pro gun always

not the way 1 of your other members voted last election.  1 of the other one's here voted for kerry last election



Nope.....she voted Libertarian  
6/6/2005 5:07:01 PM EDT
[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'm confused.



About what?



Who are the Pink Pistols is a start?




www.pinkpistols.org



So that is where Clean_Cut has been lately



Nope......it's to hard to keep up with all the LGBT groups now, without adding LGBTCleanCut to the mix.
6/6/2005 5:08:08 PM EDT
[#25]
Gay agenda.

Otherwise why call yourself "Pink Pistols" which obviously highlites gayness.

Sgat1r5
6/6/2005 5:09:03 PM EDT
[#26]
You might as well add the Log Cabin Republicans to the poll. A conservative gay group.
Sexual orientation does not determine political affiliation just like all those blue collar union members who love to hunt voting for (s)kerry last election cycle.
6/6/2005 5:10:10 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Gay agenda.

Otherwise why call yourself "Pink Pistols" which obviously highlites gayness.

Sgat1r5



Beat me to it.
6/6/2005 5:13:32 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
Gay agenda.

Otherwise why call yourself "Pink Pistols" which obviously highlites gayness.

Sgat1r5



To attract gay people....thilly
6/6/2005 5:15:45 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Gay agenda.

Otherwise why call yourself "Pink Pistols" which obviously highlites gayness.

Sgat1r5



To attract gay people....thilly



That proves my point then.

You could have easily called it Gays for guns or Homo's for Handguns.

But you didn't.  You choose a VERY gay sounding name to make sure that everyone knew how gay the org is.

SGatr15
6/6/2005 5:17:31 PM EDT
[#30]
OK, I've read your site and I'm changing my answer to "B". Incidentally, because of your site, I learned what happened at Stonewall Columbus. You guys did good, and should be applauded.

The central theme on your site is pro 2nd ammendment, and little attention is given to "Pink" causes. With that, I see that you are primarily a pro 2nd ammendment group and are therefore just fine by me, even if your lifestyle gives me the willies.
6/6/2005 5:19:13 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Gay agenda.

Otherwise why call yourself "Pink Pistols" which obviously highlites gayness.

Sgat1r5



To attract gay people....thilly



That proves my point then.

You could have easily called it Gays for guns or Homo's for Handguns.

But you didn't.  You choose a VERY gay sounding name to make sure that everyone knew how gay the org is.

SGatr15



Ok.....
a. I didn't start the group....so I didn't pick the name.

b. Homo's for Handguns doesn't sound as gay as Pink Pistols to you ?
6/6/2005 5:19:23 PM EDT
[#32]
Id rather it have a gay sounding name. That way it attracts gay people who may not otherwise pay any attention to it or just pass it off as another fringe right wing extremist gun group
6/6/2005 5:24:29 PM EDT
[#33]
Some of both.  If truly just a second amendment group, then why have the gay part at all.  I support anyone who supports the 2nd.....just don't try to mix in other intrests.
6/6/2005 5:26:33 PM EDT
[#34]
I think the OBVIOUS answer is both.

They are clearly interested in the Second Amendment and they are clearly interested in Gay Rights.

Now do I think they are a smokescreen group trying to trick us with their second amendment stance?

Well that is absurd and only an idiot would think it.
6/6/2005 5:26:36 PM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
OK, I've read your site and I'm changing my answer to "B". Incidentally, because of your site, I learned what happened at Stonewall Columbus. You guys did good, and should be applauded.

The central theme on your site is pro 2nd ammendment, and little attention is given to "Pink" causes. With that, I see that you are primarily a pro 2nd ammendment group and are therefore just fine by me, even if your lifestyle gives me the willies.




There too many different gay rights groups as it is [IMO]
6/6/2005 5:27:49 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Gay agenda.

Otherwise why call yourself "Pink Pistols" which obviously highlites gayness.

Sgat1r5



Why not call them the Pink Dildos if their agenda isn't guns?
6/6/2005 5:29:09 PM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Gay agenda.

Otherwise why call yourself "Pink Pistols" which obviously highlites gayness.

Sgat1r5



Why not call them the Pink Dildos if their agenda isn't guns?





6/6/2005 5:29:48 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Gay agenda.

Otherwise why call yourself "Pink Pistols" which obviously highlites gayness.

Sgat1r5



Why not call them the Pink Dildos if their agenda isn't guns?






good one
6/6/2005 5:34:11 PM EDT
[#39]
The more I read your site, the more I like it. There's some good commentary there, and some REALLY good advice.

Do you have any links (forum posts, perhaps?) to other gays who disagree with what you're doing?
6/6/2005 5:34:23 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Gay agenda.

Otherwise why call yourself "Pink Pistols" which obviously highlites gayness.

Sgat1r5



Why not call them the Pink Dildos if their agenda isn't guns?






good one



And we get called racist as well
6/6/2005 5:35:15 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Gay agenda.

Otherwise why call yourself "Pink Pistols" which obviously highlites gayness.

Sgat1r5



Why not call them the Pink Dildos if their agenda isn't guns?



I think they do use the dildo as a sort of gun.


SGat1r5
6/6/2005 5:43:19 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
The more I read your site, the more I like it. There's some good commentary there, and some REALLY good advice.

Do you have any links (forum posts, perhaps?) to other gays who disagree with what you're doing?



The Gwen [Pistol media goddess] is working on a updated site which will have more gay input. But here is a link to the Guys with Guns site Kacer and I are running.

http://usp45usp.proboards42.com
6/6/2005 5:44:41 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Gay agenda.

Otherwise why call yourself "Pink Pistols" which obviously highlites gayness.

Sgat1r5



Why not call them the Pink Dildos if their agenda isn't guns?



I think they do use the dildo as a sort of gun.


SGat1r5



yep..........but it shoots blanks.
6/6/2005 5:47:34 PM EDT
[#44]
I have no problem at all with viewing 'The Pink Pistols' as Friends of the Second Amendment!

If I were gay, you'd damn well better believe that I would support the RKBA!

Frankly, I never liked the idea of confusing someone's sexual preferences with their true selves.

I just wish some gay folks would see it that way, as well.

Sexuality doesn't define my life, why should it define anyone's?

Eric The(Straighter'nMoses)Hun
6/6/2005 5:50:11 PM EDT
[#45]
I voted 2nd ammendment.

There are some sick twisted folks out there that would like to do nothing but kill people based purely on thier sexual preferance.The more of those fucks that run into one of you,and you squeeze the trigger and end the life of that person,you did everyone a favor.

I'm not pro-gay or anti-gay,I just hate ignorance and stupidity.

One question though:

Why do some gays feel the need to stick tongues down each other's throats in public ? Is it for the "Hey I'm gay I don't care what you say" agenda ? Because that shit right there is just inviting people to fuck with you.

Anyway,more power to you.

Sidenote: If I was a girl,I would be a lesbian.
6/6/2005 5:51:06 PM EDT
[#46]
Oh.............and my answer is both.Ive seen the website,very pro gun,not much on the gay slant.


Does anyone actually HAVE a pink pistol?? Disco cammo?
Will Lauer Weaponry do a leopard skin paintjob?
6/6/2005 5:52:15 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:
I have no problem at all with viewing 'The Pink Pistols' as Friends of the Second Amendment!

If I were gay, you'd damn well better believe that I would support the RKBA!

Frankly, I never liked the idea of confusing someone's sexual preferences with their true selves.

I just wish some gay folks would see it that way, as well.

Sexuality doesn't define my life, why should it define anyone's?

Eric The(Straighter'nMoses)Hun




It doesn't mine either....but that is the subject of another thread. Which I'm sure will be starting as soon as Belloc gets back online
6/6/2005 5:52:56 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:

Sexuality doesn't define my life, why should it define anyone's?

Eric The(Straighter'nMoses)Hun



I keep wondering that myself.
6/6/2005 5:58:59 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:
I have no problem at all with viewing 'The Pink Pistols' as Friends of the Second Amendment!

If I were gay, you'd damn well better believe that I would support the RKBA!

Frankly, I never liked the idea of confusing someone's sexual preferences with their true selves.

I just wish some gay folks would see it that way, as well.

Sexuality doesn't define my life, why should it define anyone's?

Eric The(Straighter'nMoses)Hun



I imagine it is an issue because others have at times made it an issue. If heterosexuality were not the norm and it became an "issue" for me to be heterosexual I would be more defined by it.

That said, I understand and completely agree with your point. I wish it was NOT an issue because frankly I'm tired of dealing with the promotion of that agenda.
6/6/2005 6:01:05 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
If heterosexuality were not the norm and it became an "issue" for me to be heterosexual I would be more defined by it.



If hetrosecuality wasn't the norm we all wouldn't be around to discuss this.

Sgatr15
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