[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Prostyletizing at the Range (Page 1 of 6)
Posted: 4/11/2010 7:21:46 AM EDT
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Yesterday I was at the range, and there was only one other member there. It's a private club, so there aren't a lot of folks there at once. Anyway, we start chatting and when he figures out that I'm not a Christian, he goes on this whole Evangelical thing about how the world is going to end, and I'm going to hell, etc. What the fuck?
I'm a bad Jew. I'd be an even worse Christian. You don't want me in your faith man, you aren't missing out on anything. Why do people do this? Is it supposed to help them get into heaven or something? |
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He started talking "SHTF" first and I'm thinking, OK, I can tolerate this. Even if he thinks it's some crazy supernatural religious shit going on, at least he preps, y'know. The convo was like this.
Him: You have to be prepared man. The end is coming. Most people think it's going to be some nuclear catastrophe, but it's not... Me: Yeah, we live close to the city so we have to watch out for crowds... Him: No man, we have to watch out for the hand of the lord that is going to come down and supernaturally destroy us, leave us a smoking ruin of a nation. Oh, thanks, hadn't thought of that. Water, check. Food, check. Ammo, check. Defense against the hand of the lord? Nope. Now I'm really screwed. 
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So you had a conversation. You'll live. Or not. It wasn't a conversation. It was standing in front of someone who is going full retard on you for 30 minutes. A conversation is a two way street. The retard was full, and traveling at a high speed in one direction. |
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Well...........I'm a Christian in progress but I don't feel the need to ram it down anyones throat.
And on another note...........I REALLY feel for you guys that have to shoot on any kind of public range even if it's a club type. If I had to depend on those when I wanted to shoot I would never bother............ |
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Something prevented you from walking away? Never understood that, if someone is yapping about something I don't want to hear, I just walk away. If they follow me, I explain that there is a reason I walked away from you.
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So you had a conversation. You'll live. Or not. It wasn't a conversation. It was standing in front of someone who is going full retard on you for 30 minutes. A conversation is a two way street. The retard was full, and traveling at a high speed in one direction. |
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So you had a conversation. You'll live. Or not. It wasn't a conversation. It was standing in front of someone who is going full retard on you for 30 minutes. A conversation is a two way street. The retard was full, and traveling at a high speed in one direction. I had the wonderful experience of having to work in a tool and die shop once where the gentleman I was assigned to apprentice under was a bible-thumping evangelist. I am a Christian myself, but when I failed to read the reams of pamphlets and religious tracts he gave me, with full readiness to discuss them in depth the following morning, he started acting like a complete douchebag and refused to help me with anything I was working on. Not only that he tried to sandbag me behind my back with the owner and other people in the shop. Great Christian, huh? |
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To bad it was not a Reform Rabbi (Sounds like you would have listened to him and not given it a second thought afterwards ) At least that would have been an discussion from one Jew to another. Likely more seemly than the discussion the OP mentioned. Why is it so important to some Christians to try to convert us Jews? |
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I had a friend growing up who's father was Catholic but loved to talk about Jesus with people and was rather long-winded. We always used to get the Jehovah's Witness people comng to the door in our town. Well one day they came to his house...he talked to them for so LONG that THEY actually ran out of there... 
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I had a friend growing up who's father was Catholic but loved to talk about Jesus with people and was rather long-winded. We always used to get the Jehovah's Witness people comng to the door in our town. Well one day they came to his house...he talked to them for so LONG that THEY actually ran out of there...
Um... why wouldn't a Catholic like to talk about Jesus? |
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We have to listen to liberal shmucks every day here in California , so a grandson of a real okie on a southern baptist rant sounds like a nice change of pace (especially for a jew) I'll talk SHTF, guns, whatever with anybody, I just don't want to talk religion. Ever. Anybody's religion. Unless we're talking about the RoP and the problems associated. In Israel, religious Jews tried to get me to become "more religious" or whatever, but fuck them equally. It's not a Jewish-Christian thing, it's a religion thing. Do. Not. Care. At all. |
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We have to listen to liberal shmucks every day here in California , so a grandson of a real okie on a southern baptist rant sounds like a nice change of pace (especially for a jew) I'll talk SHTF, guns, whatever with anybody, I just don't want to talk religion. Ever. Anybody's religion. Unless we're talking about the RoP and the problems associated. In Israel, religious Jews tried to get me to become "more religious" or whatever, but fuck them equally. It's not a Jewish-Christian thing, it's a religion thing. Do. Not. Care. At all. "What ever" is a broad statement (You would listen to a Holocaust denier & Tinfoil hat assclown blame teh Jews for everything kinda guy but a Christian gets your goat ? |
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We have to listen to liberal shmucks every day here in California , so a grandson of a real okie on a southern baptist rant sounds like a nice change of pace (especially for a jew) I'll talk SHTF, guns, whatever with anybody, I just don't want to talk religion. Ever. Anybody's religion. Unless we're talking about the RoP and the problems associated. In Israel, religious Jews tried to get me to become "more religious" or whatever, but fuck them equally. It's not a Jewish-Christian thing, it's a religion thing. Do. Not. Care. At all. "What ever" is a broad statement (You would listen to a Holocaust denier & Tinfoil hat assclown blame teh Jews for everything kinda guy but a Christian gets your goat ? Obviously not what I meant. Don't take it so personally. I don't have a problem with Christians, I just don't want to talk about Christianity. I don't want to talk Judaism either, and Islam only from a strategic perspective because it's relevant. |
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Yesterday I was at the range, and there was only one other member there. It's a private club, so there aren't a lot of folks there at once. Anyway, we start chatting and when he figures out that I'm not a Christian, he goes on this whole Evangelical thing about how the world is going to end, and I'm going to hell, etc. What the fuck? I'm a bad Jew. I'd be an even worse Christian. You don't want me in your faith man, you aren't missing out on anything. Why do people do this? Is it supposed to help them get into heaven or something? Impossible. Everyone here says the atheists are always the pompous ones that shove it in your face. I have yet to see that true but the reverse happens quite often like in your case. Funny how they always see persecution in themselves but never when they do it and label it as "preaching." Fuck that noise. |
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Feel for ya man. I live in the Bible Belt and get the same thing all the time........................after I tell them I'm Catholic. To the Protestant mindset, "Catholic is NOT Christian". Really? I must have missed that part in the Lutheran church I go to. |
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I had a friend growing up who's father was Catholic but loved to talk about Jesus with people and was rather long-winded. We always used to get the Jehovah's Witness people comng to the door in our town. Well one day they came to his house...he talked to them for so LONG that THEY actually ran out of there...
Um... why wouldn't a Catholic like to talk about Jesus? I thinking he's talking about the Hovies that didn't like talking about Jesus. |
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So you had a conversation. You'll live. Or not. It wasn't a conversation. It was standing in front of someone who is going full retard on you for 30 minutes. A conversation is a two way street. The retard was full, and traveling at a high speed in one direction. So you didn't stop him and say "How about we change the subject." Gawsh, it must have been awful for you.
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So you had a conversation. You'll live. Or not. It wasn't a conversation. It was standing in front of someone who is going full retard on you for 30 minutes. A conversation is a two way street. The retard was full, and traveling at a high speed in one direction. So you didn't stop him and say "How about we change the subject." Gawsh, it must have been awful for you. In the OP's defense, I've experienced this too. You only really have two options. You cannot change the subject. We're not talking a sane person here. You can get run off your own range or you can kick his ass. The former is not acceptable and the latter, while fun is illegal. Better to file a report with the range committee and get him banned. |
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So you had a conversation. You'll live. Or not. It wasn't a conversation. It was standing in front of someone who is going full retard on you for 30 minutes. A conversation is a two way street. The retard was full, and traveling at a high speed in one direction. I had the wonderful experience of having to work in a tool and die shop once where the gentleman I was assigned to apprentice under was a bible-thumping evangelist. I am a Christian myself, but when I failed to read the reams of pamphlets and religious tracts he gave me, with full readiness to discuss them in depth the following morning, he started acting like a complete douchebag and refused to help me with anything I was working on. Not only that he tried to sandbag me behind my back with the owner and other people in the shop. Great Christian, huh? That's where the "ye shall know them by their fruits" comes in. Sounds like rotten fruit to me. Also, that part in John where it says he came to Earth "...full of Grace and Truth..."....not just one or the other, like the person you cite. |
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So you had a conversation. You'll live. Or not. It wasn't a conversation. It was standing in front of someone who is going full retard on you for 30 minutes. A conversation is a two way street. The retard was full, and traveling at a high speed in one direction. So you didn't stop him and say "How about we change the subject." Gawsh, it must have been awful for you. In the OP's defense, Iv'e experienced this too. You only really have two options. You cannot change the subject. You can get run off your own range or you can kick his ass. The former is not acceptable and the latter, while fun is illegal. Better to file a report with the range committee and get him banned. First Ammendment. Second Ammendment. Heck, let's just get rid of 'em all. If it was important, the Founding Fathers would have put it in the basic document rather than tacking it on later. 
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So you had a conversation. You'll live. Or not. It wasn't a conversation. It was standing in front of someone who is going full retard on you for 30 minutes. A conversation is a two way street. The retard was full, and traveling at a high speed in one direction. So you didn't stop him and say "How about we change the subject." Gawsh, it must have been awful for you. In the OP's defense, Iv'e experienced this too. You only really have two options. You cannot change the subject. You can get run off your own range or you can kick his ass. The former is not acceptable and the latter, while fun is illegal. Better to file a report with the range committee and get him banned. First Ammendment. Second Ammendment. Heck, let's just get rid of 'em all. If it was important, the Founding Fathers would have put it in the basic document rather than tacking it on later.
Private club. You don't understand the purpose of the 1st, 2nd, or other Amendments, apparently. I wouldn't want some idiot blabbering on to me about their stupid 'pre or post trib?' bullshit at a place I pay money to be. I'd talk to the committee as well. |
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So you had a conversation. You'll live. Or not. It wasn't a conversation. It was standing in front of someone who is going full retard on you for 30 minutes. A conversation is a two way street. The retard was full, and traveling at a high speed in one direction. So you didn't stop him and say "How about we change the subject." Gawsh, it must have been awful for you. In the OP's defense, Iv'e experienced this too. You only really have two options. You cannot change the subject. You can get run off your own range or you can kick his ass. The former is not acceptable and the latter, while fun is illegal. Better to file a report with the range committee and get him banned. First Ammendment. Second Ammendment. Heck, let's just get rid of 'em all. If it was important, the Founding Fathers would have put it in the basic document rather than tacking it on later.
Private club. You don't understand the purpose of the 1st, 2nd, or other Amendments, apparently. I wouldn't want some idiot blabbering on to me about their stupid 'pre or post trib?' bullshit at a place I pay money to be. I'd talk to the committee as well. Geesh.....talk to the committee?.... How bout this: man up and tell the person to get bent without all the passive aggressive "committee" tactics. Just an idea. |
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So you had a conversation. You'll live. Or not. It wasn't a conversation. It was standing in front of someone who is going full retard on you for 30 minutes. A conversation is a two way street. The retard was full, and traveling at a high speed in one direction. So you didn't stop him and say "How about we change the subject." Gawsh, it must have been awful for you. In the OP's defense, Iv'e experienced this too. You only really have two options. You cannot change the subject. You can get run off your own range or you can kick his ass. The former is not acceptable and the latter, while fun is illegal. Better to file a report with the range committee and get him banned. First Ammendment. Second Ammendment. Heck, let's just get rid of 'em all. If it was important, the Founding Fathers would have put it in the basic document rather than tacking it on later.
Private club. You don't understand the purpose of the 1st, 2nd, or other Amendments, apparently. I wouldn't want some idiot blabbering on to me about their stupid 'pre or post trib?' bullshit at a place I pay money to be. I'd talk to the committee as well. Unless the Range is in San Franpsycho/ Bay area talking to the committee would be talking to a Church of Christ-er & 2 Lutherans and a Unitarian Universaliost. |