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6/6/2017 3:56:21 PM EDT
I've always bought sub-$15 eye protection for the range.  I don't feel bad if I leave a pair at the range, or if they get scratched up when I toss them in my range bag.  

Is there a benefit to the expensive ones?
6/6/2017 4:08:41 PM EDT
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No.

Just make sure whatever you buy are ANSI Z87.1

I was surprised to find out that most of the "cool guy" glasses, like most models of Oakelys, are not.

I prefer bull head because they're cheap, look decent enough, and fit the bill nicely as EDC sunglasses and range protection.
6/6/2017 4:23:25 PM EDT
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No.

Just make sure whatever you buy are ANSI Z87.1

I was surprised to find out that most of the "cool guy" glasses, like most models of Oakelys, are not.

I prefer bull head because they're cheap, look decent enough, and fit the bill nicely as EDC sunglasses and range protection.
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Lol wut?  Every lense Oakley makes meets or exceeds ansi z87. Call them an ask if you don't believe me

Op yes there's is a benefit. Quality, comfort, and longevity. I dig the smith aegis(?) right now. comfy huge coverage and super  Gun arms that don't interfere with ear pro.
6/6/2017 4:34:40 PM EDT
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Lol wut?  Every lense Oakley makes meets or exceeds ansi z87. Call them an ask if you don't believe me

Op yes there's is a benefit. Quality, comfort, and longevity. I dig the smith aegis(?) right now. comfy huge coverage and super  Gun arms that don't interfere with ear pro.
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Lol wut?  Every lense Oakley makes meets or exceeds ansi z87. Call them an ask if you don't believe me

Op yes there's is a benefit. Quality, comfort, and longevity. I dig the smith aegis(?) right now. comfy huge coverage and super  Gun arms that don't interfere with ear pro.
From their site:


Oakley offers a limited number of models that conform to the entire ANSI Z87.1 standard. These models display the "Z87" mark and are suitable for use in industrial applications where impact protection is required.
http://www.oakley.com/en/support/faq



Basically just the M-frames.

That's the marketing gimmick.
6/6/2017 4:39:11 PM EDT
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Quality, comfort, and longevity. I dig the smith aegis(?) right now. comfy huge coverage and super  Gun arms that don't interfere with ear pro.
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The smiths are GTG.

My problem is that I have a tendency to scratch them, or they get stolen by wives, kids and friends.

I haven't noticed any quality or comfort differences in the 3M $5 glasses and the $200 WileyXs or whatever the flavor of the week is.
6/6/2017 4:40:40 PM EDT
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just buy this and be done with it
6/6/2017 4:42:09 PM EDT
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For the "go be poor somewhere else" group
They grind perscription lenses also
6/6/2017 4:44:02 PM EDT
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Again, not impact rated or full ANSI z87.1-2010 or 2015 rated.
6/6/2017 4:54:31 PM EDT
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Again, not impact rated or full ANSI z87.1-2010 or 2015 rated.
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dude, I used to sell Oakley and have been to their testing lab and have personally destroyed all forms of eye wear with their equipment. All Oakley are way above the ANZi standard and the lenses are far superior to other glasses.  The non prescription ones are ground to be focused at 20 feet on one point with both lenses pointing in the same direction.  When you shoot the laser testing equipment through other lenses you see what a joke the other brands are .    And as I said I have smashed all the other brands with the impact test machine and Oakley are the best.
6/6/2017 4:56:13 PM EDT
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Lucky Gunner Eye Pro Test

Start reading.
6/6/2017 4:59:27 PM EDT
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1. ANSI Z87.1 rated
2. Fog resistant
3. Non-polariazed if you need to be able to see a tablet (for scoring).
6/6/2017 5:00:39 PM EDT
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dude, I used to sell Oakley and have been to their testing lab and have personally destroyed all forms of eye wear with their equipment. All Oakley are way above the ANZi standard and the lenses are far superior to other glasses.  The non prescription ones are ground to be focused at 20 feet on one point with both lenses pointing in the same direction.  When you shoot the laser testing equipment through other lenses you see what a joke the other brands are .    And as I said I have smashed all the other brands with the impact test machine and Oakley are the best.
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Again, not impact rated or full ANSI z87.1-2010 or 2015 rated.
dude, I used to sell Oakley and have been to their testing lab and have personally destroyed all forms of eye wear with their equipment. All Oakley are way above the ANZi standard and the lenses are far superior to other glasses.  The non prescription ones are ground to be focused at 20 feet on one point with both lenses pointing in the same direction.  When you shoot the laser testing equipment through other lenses you see what a joke the other brands are .    And as I said I have smashed all the other brands with the impact test machine and Oakley are the best.
The ANSI standard is below the MIL-PRF-31013.  Oakleys did okay in the testing, but the  Smiths were the clear winner.
6/6/2017 5:03:58 PM EDT
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From their site:

http://www.oakley.com/en/support/faq



Basically just the M-frames.

That's the marketing gimmick.
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Well if that's right off the website then you win. I could probably dig up an email I got from their CS a few years ago when I asked about it that says "all our eyewear meets..."

But that's been a while....
6/6/2017 5:04:37 PM EDT
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dude, I used to sell Oakley and have been to their testing lab and have personally destroyed all forms of eye wear with their equipment. All Oakley are way above the ANZi standard and the lenses are far superior to other glasses.  The non prescription ones are ground to be focused at 20 feet on one point with both lenses pointing in the same direction.  When you shoot the laser testing equipment through other lenses you see what a joke the other brands are .    And as I said I have smashed all the other brands with the impact test machine and Oakley are the best.
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Again, not impact rated or full ANSI z87.1-2010 or 2015 rated.
dude, I used to sell Oakley and have been to their testing lab and have personally destroyed all forms of eye wear with their equipment. All Oakley are way above the ANZi standard and the lenses are far superior to other glasses.  The non prescription ones are ground to be focused at 20 feet on one point with both lenses pointing in the same direction.  When you shoot the laser testing equipment through other lenses you see what a joke the other brands are .    And as I said I have smashed all the other brands with the impact test machine and Oakley are the best.
I hear ya bro. I respect that, but you must understand that it would be illogical to take the word of a guy on the internet over Oakely's own admission in their FAQ.

At the end of the day, Oakleys cost $20 to manufacture and are made from the same or lesser materials than $20 sunglasses.

I need to see an ANSI z87.1-2010 or 2015 with impact rating before I'm strapping something on and heading to the range. 99% of Oakleys don't have it.
6/6/2017 5:05:46 PM EDT
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Well if that's right off the website then you win. I could probably dig up an email I got from their CS a few years ago when I asked about it that says "all our eyewear meets..."

But that's been a while....
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They do say that, even today. What they say is that is that their eyewear meets "certain portions" of the standard. They omit that they do not meet the whole standard.
6/6/2017 5:07:30 PM EDT
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The ANSI standard is below the MIL-PRF-31013.  Oakleys did okay in the testing, but the  Smiths were the clear winner.
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6/6/2017 5:10:34 PM EDT
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Lucky Gunner Eye Pro Test

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Lucky Gunner Eye Pro Test

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I wonder how the current revision Oakley Flak 2.0s do. Those are what I use. Fit my face perfectly, but most importantly, I've got those high German cheekbones and I can't smile without causing my eye pro to ride up with most glasses. My Smith Aegis Arcs were pretty bad offenders on this. The little cuts out of the bottoms of the Flak 2.0 XL lenses are a fucking godsend as I can have facial expressions other than Spock Neutral without my eyewear moving.

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1. ANSI Z87.1 rated
2. Fog resistant
3. Non-polariazed if you need to be able to see a tablet (for scoring).
FWIW my Flak 2.0s are polarized and I can see my iPod screen just fine while wearing them. It only goes all funky if I rotate it sideways.
6/6/2017 7:23:02 PM EDT
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I hear ya bro. I respect that, but you must understand that it would be illogical to take the word of a guy on the internet over Oakely's own admission in their FAQ.

At the end of the day, Oakleys cost $20 to manufacture and are made from the same or lesser materials than $20 sunglasses.

I need to see an ANSI z87.1-2010 or 2015 with impact rating before I'm strapping something on and heading to the range. 99% of Oakleys don't have it.
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Again, not impact rated or full ANSI z87.1-2010 or 2015 rated.
dude, I used to sell Oakley and have been to their testing lab and have personally destroyed all forms of eye wear with their equipment. All Oakley are way above the ANZi standard and the lenses are far superior to other glasses.  The non prescription ones are ground to be focused at 20 feet on one point with both lenses pointing in the same direction.  When you shoot the laser testing equipment through other lenses you see what a joke the other brands are .    And as I said I have smashed all the other brands with the impact test machine and Oakley are the best.
I hear ya bro. I respect that, but you must understand that it would be illogical to take the word of a guy on the internet over Oakely's own admission in their FAQ.

At the end of the day, Oakleys cost $20 to manufacture and are made from the same or lesser materials than $20 sunglasses.

I need to see an ANSI z87.1-2010 or 2015 with impact rating before I'm strapping something on and heading to the range. 99% of Oakleys don't have it.
when I went to lab they had a machine that shot BB s at the lens and a heavy spike that dropped from 3 feet onto the lens.  Oakley GTG everyone else fail.  Maybe its different now but that's the way it was 10 years ago. Did it with my own hands.
6/6/2017 8:13:36 PM EDT
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when I went to lab they had a machine that shot BB s at the lens and a heavy spike that dropped from 3 feet onto the lens.  Oakley GTG everyone else fail.  Maybe its different now but that's the way it was 10 years ago. Did it with my own hands.
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10 years is a long time. Not sure what happened.

That does sound right for the ANSI test though.