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12/4/2001 2:28:22 PM EDT
If you have a Preban lower and a postban upper is the entire firearm Preban enough to put an M203 style flare launcher on it?

     Thanks
12/4/2001 5:03:56 PM EDT
[#1]
yes the lower is all the matters for being preban
12/4/2001 5:07:05 PM EDT
[#2]
Note:

A Lower only counts as Pre-Ban if it was in a Pre-Ban Configuration at sometime before September 14, 1994. If it was ever in a Pre-Ban Config before then, then you can add whatever non-NFA goodies you wish.
12/4/2001 5:10:18 PM EDT
[#3]
Also, does a 37mm Flare Launcher actually count as a Grenade Launcher for AW purposes. But, if you mean a 40mm, then it is a DD and a Grenade Launcher. God forbid, it also be a foreign gun. 20 - 30 Years in Club Fed, not to mention, 10 additional years for each 40mm HE Round.
12/4/2001 5:41:47 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Note:

A Lower only counts as Pre-Ban if it was in a Pre-Ban Configuration at sometime before September 14, 1994. If it was ever in a Pre-Ban Config before then, then you can add whatever non-NFA goodies you wish.
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Realy??? i can do anything i want to it? bayonet,37mm flare launcher? Cool



Also, does a 37mm Flare Launcher actually count as a Grenade Launcher for AW purposes. But, if you mean a 40mm, then it is a DD and a Grenade Launcher. God forbid, it also be a foreign gun. 20 - 30 Years in Club Fed, not to mention, 10 additional years for each 40mm HE Round.
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this is what i had in mind :[url]http://www.fire-balls.com/catalog.asp?display=3[/url]
and mabey this:[url]http://www.fire-balls.com/catalog.asp?display=9[/url]
12/4/2001 11:31:15 PM EDT
[#5]
The BATF finally got around to answering whether "Once a Preban, Always a Preban."  The answer is qualified "No."  If it is a named 921(a)(30) assault weapon, then yes.  They didn't actually say that, but the law is very clear on that one.  If the lower is not a named SAW, then removing enough features that it no longer qualifies as a 921(a)(30) SAW, and disposing of those parts, makes it a postban for all intents and purposes...According to the BATF.

See the following: [url]http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=74364[/url]
12/4/2001 11:44:41 PM EDT
[#6]
So are you saying if i get a Preban lower its not preban?
12/5/2001 12:30:02 AM EDT
[#7]
Well, BATF is trying to make that claim.  Many of us don't believe they could actually win that one in court, and it isn't likely that they'd attempt to, at least not against someone willing to put up a fight about it.  But court battles can cost LOTS of money.

Basically, BATF's "opinion" is that if you buy a "pre-ban" grandfathered assault weapon from someone, but it isn't configured as an assault weapon when you buy it, it "loses" it's pre-ban status.  Which, again, I feel is legally BS.

-Troy
12/5/2001 12:35:41 AM EDT
[#8]
So is it ok or not?