Posted: 10/29/2009 1:57:22 PM EDT
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What's the military's policy on bringing your POW with you? As infantry can you carry a sidearm?
Also, for your rifles...can you bring your own upper/optic/suppressor/rail/light/etc? |
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To over seas engagements?
If that is what you are reffering too, it is FROWNED upon greatly. (I.E. you get caught and you are fuct) Having said that however, ve have our vays. 
Small recommendation, be sure that your Arms Room guys are in very tight with you. That is all. |
| i have a bag of goodies that i like to swap out on my issued weapon, BUIS, charging handle, non rotating pins, pistol grip etc. things like that. most people never notice and the ones who do are gun nuts like me that dont care. only one chow-hall-sergeant-major cared and i just explained that i would fix my rifle immediately. but whole weapons? thats hard and frowned upon, not saying it doesnt happen or its not hard but its rare. |
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Now. Why oh why would you want to go and do a stupid thing like bring your own weapon when you already have one? You're issued one. Don't go and try to get yourself court martialed or something for violating a lawful order. Its been known to happen and the less severe punishments will be loss of pay, rank, and extra duty and you don't want extra duty in a war zone... it usually involves shit, literally or measuring a two mile run with a 12 inch ruler at night.
Bring your other gear and you're fine. Its not a weapon. But you start bringing extra barrells into theater that aren't on government books you're asking for trouble. You don't want to get into a shoot where for some reason your gun gets pulled for foresnic analysis (yes its done here) and then it turns out that you're cleared, except that your weapon isn't on your company's sensitive item inventory and now you're in a sling over that. Trust me, not worth the ass pain. |
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First off, thank you all for your service and may God bless you and keep you.
Second, where do the infantry guys get the 1911s that sometimes you see in pics, like in that Uday and Qusay Hussein thread? I thought that the only issued handguns were M9s, not that I know anything. 
Thanks! Your friendly neighborhood Highstepper |
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It happens. Just depends on what unit and whom your commander is. That's all I have to say about that. Maj Basically this. Me and a couple other guys tried to get our COC to let us ship over our M4gery uppers and M4 stocks for our M16s. Our COC was ok with it provided that Supply/Armorer was ok with it. Went to Supply/Armorer and they said that if we shipped over personal uppers, they'd have to send off the guns to get test-fired and given the OK to use them but that it would take anywhere from 4-8weeks and some paperwork hassle on their part so they said no. 
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Quoted: What's the military's policy on bringing your POW with you? As infantry can you carry a sidearm? Also, for your rifles...can you bring your own upper/optic/suppressor/rail/light/etc? 1) Absolutely NO personal weapons other than knives... If you need a sidearm, you are issued one... 2) Accessories vary by command, but in general, upper? No. Bolt-ons? Usually.... |
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Quoted: First off, thank you all for your service and may God bless you and keep you. Second, where do the infantry guys get the 1911s that sometimes you see in pics, like in that Uday and Qusay Hussein thread? I thought that the only issued handguns were M9s, not that I know anything. Thanks! Your friendly neighborhood Highstepper 1) Special ops folks sometimes 'get away' with stuff that's a no-go for 'Big Army'... 2) During OIF-1 there were quite a few weapons captured from the locals, some of which found their way into the hands of our guys (hence pictures of folks shooting STG-44s and similar).... Of course, trying to bring said weapons home (even a M1911 or BHP) is another way to get your ass in a sling.... |
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To echo the others, don't try to bring a firearm of your own. Components like rails, optics, grips, etc, they tend not to be a problem.
Some infantry get issued sidearms, it depends on the unit. If you're not issued one, so be it. I am aware of a few personally owned M1911s and FS92s which have made it over here, they can get overlooked by Customs because the .45s are still in the Army system, and almost nobody can tell the difference between an M9 and a 92 in the holster. However, the risk/reward benefit simply isn't worth it. Leave it be, and use your issue M4/M9. NTM |
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p-mags? are you serious? we had no problem with them
You can't even ship home Wii "gun" controllers or personally bought p-mags. That's what the Army thinks of it's soldiers and personal weapons/gear. 
We couldn't mail home ANYTHING weapon related - slings, ANY surefire light (they wouldn't let me mail home my Surefire G2??) because they could be used on weapons, magazines - even privately purchased items had to be carried home personally when I left Iraq. Our CO also didn't allow any personal modifications to weapons at all - not even privately owned sights. A couple of our squad leaders and a PSG brought EOTechs and were threatened with counseling statements because the CO said they were unauthorized because he didn't want joe to see higher ups buying their own stuff and "causing lower enlisted soldiers to not trust their issued gear." |
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I did it but was fully prepared to leave everything that I brought over there too. I shipped what was bassically a complete weapons kit minus lower receiver and lower parts kit to myself.
Then I assembled my "OWN" M4 with my parts. Carried it for the entire deployment, then re-assembled my issued weapon (Which by the way spent the deployment under my bed) and shipped my parts back to myself. Then I assembled the parts to a custom lower that my unit had made by Superior Arms and now I have the weapon that I carried in combat to hopefully pass on to my Son one day. As far as complete weapon or any POW for that matter. If you happened to get it over there, you would be commiting a felony if you brought it back and were not a weapons importer. Yes even if you own it, you can't import without a liscense. That being said, I saw it happen lots, but never was willing to try that one myself. |
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I brought my own ACOG and some mags. Just make sure your command knows about any weapons accessories before deploying so they don't accuse you of trying to steal it. I would also keep the receipts in a safe place so you can prove the items are yours. I can second the comment about not being allowed to mail anything that even remotely looked like a weapons accessory home including personally owned mags. It all had to be carried out of country with you. |
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I turned my M16A2 into an M4 for the entire OIF II deployment. I also converted 14 M16A2s into M4s during the deployment. The big issue with my CoC was rezeroing the weapon prior to any combat patrols. But that was in 2004 and times have changed. Started with the tards that slapped a M4 butt stock on an M16 but kept the M16 buffer. Guess how well those guns fired.
I still have the M4 conversion kit I used. Bought a new BM lower when I got back and ressebled the parts to mimic what I deployed with. Optics were fine, again as long as we rezeroed. Duty position makes a diference as to what you might get away with. No need for an ACOG or Aimpoint or M4 for a Fobbit who works in the TOC or mess hall.. |
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I turned my M16A2 into an M4 for the entire OIF II deployment. I also converted 14 M16A2s into M4s during the deployment. The big issue with my CoC was rezeroing the weapon prior to any combat patrols. But that was in 2004 and times have changed. Started with the tards that slapped a M4 butt stock on an M16 but kept the M16 buffer. Guess how well those guns fired. I still have the M4 conversion kit I used. Bought a new BM lower when I got back and ressebled the parts to mimic what I deployed with. Optics were fine, again as long as we rezeroed. Duty position makes a diference as to what you might get away with. No need for an ACOG or Aimpoint or M4 for a Fobbit who works in the TOC or mess hall.. Damn aint that the truth, but how many of those types do you see with all the bells and whistles...to many...they dont even need rails or lights. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I turned my M16A2 into an M4 for the entire OIF II deployment. I also converted 14 M16A2s into M4s during the deployment. The big issue with my CoC was rezeroing the weapon prior to any combat patrols. But that was in 2004 and times have changed. Started with the tards that slapped a M4 butt stock on an M16 but kept the M16 buffer. Guess how well those guns fired. I still have the M4 conversion kit I used. Bought a new BM lower when I got back and ressebled the parts to mimic what I deployed with. Optics were fine, again as long as we rezeroed. Duty position makes a diference as to what you might get away with. No need for an ACOG or Aimpoint or M4 for a Fobbit who works in the TOC or mess hall.. Damn aint that the truth, but how many of those types do you see with all the bells and whistles...to many...they dont even need rails or lights. Based on my 'fobbit life' over in Iraq, no need for a *rifle* for most fobbits either... But giving them M9s would rain on the 'status symbol' parade... |
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Personally owned weapons - NO! I don't care if you can shoot better with your uber-custom 1911A1, if Uncle Sam didn't issued it to you, then is a no-go - DO NOT PASS GO, DO NOT COLLECT $200. Personally owned weapon's accesories - YES, as long as you can return the weapon to "as issued" in a quick manner. You can slap whatever fancy optic, rail, stock, VFG, light or high-dollar value doohickey you can purchase, as long as said part doesn't require you to remove any original part of the weapon that was not meant to be removed (like the delta ring or the flash hider). Hell, even the PX's MCSS (Military Clothing Sales Shop) sells Magpul components that you can slap on your weapon and (in theory) are approved to be put on your weapon, then once you re done doing your "Soap McTavish" thing on the field or return from getting your face sandblasted in Iraq or Afghanistan, then you will return the weapon back to the arms room with all the stuff the armorer gave you BEFORE you went and slapped the fancy Magpul goodies. Now you have some parts for yoru civilian AR15 tyhat you can proudly say that it has "Been There, Done that" |
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Posted by Dave_A;
Based on my 'fobbit life' over in Iraq, no need for a *rifle* for most fobbits either... But giving them M9s would rain on the 'status symbol' parade... Then you'd have either the whole "my tactical thigh holster makes me an operator" attitude or Fobbits carying a $600 guin in a $30 holster. Don't forget the Crimson Trace laser grips too. |
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I did it but was fully prepared to leave everything that I brought over there too. I shipped what was bassically a complete weapons kit minus lower receiver and lower parts kit to myself. Then I assembled my "OWN" M4 with my parts. Carried it for the entire deployment, then re-assembled my issued weapon (Which by the way spent the deployment under my bed) and shipped my parts back to myself. Then I assembled the parts to a custom lower that my unit had made by Superior Arms and now I have the weapon that I carried in combat to hopefully pass on to my Son one day. As far as complete weapon or any POW for that matter. If you happened to get it over there, you would be commiting a felony if you brought it back and were not a weapons importer. Yes even if you own it, you can't import without a liscense. That being said, I saw it happen lots, but never was willing to try that one myself. How were you able to ship the kit back? No checks on outgoing mail? |
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I carried my A2 upper and butt stock back in a SAW spare barrel bag. Customs looked at it and assumed it was all issue equipment. Which it was.
I was prepared to BS them and tell them it was from an A2 destroyed in a VBIED attack. I'm signed for it and need to turn it into the armorer when I get stateside. I hand carried my M4 conversion with my tan furniture and civilian Aimpoint. No one questions the individual weapon your carrying. This will be chapter 2 in my memoirs on how to smuggle weapons while in the military. 
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Baghdad 2004-05 AOR was Tuwathia Nuclear center area, just north of Salman-pak...
1-161 INF is part of 81st BCT, but they were down at Balad. He might of made his way up to our neck of the woods a couple of times though, we went down there with your unit in fact. |
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in 05 my squad bought collapsible stocks from CTD (i know, i know, but they were $20 apiece) i stuck them on everyone's M16s. got some funny looks, but i was in a line unit, and while it was more extreme than an etotech, it wasnt frowned upon. it was also damn handy with IBA on.
unit armorer was useless though, i asked him about it, he had no clue. |