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Posted: 10/21/2004 8:11:17 AM EST
I just got a pepper popper made out of 500 brinell steel and i know that i need to be atleast 25 yds for Pistols and atleast 100 ydsfor rifle , but i was wondering if it was ok to use FMJ?
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:12:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/21/2004 8:14:37 AM EST by Sin_Bin]
I don't know what that is so I'm tagging this thread.

BTW, proper grammar would dictate that your title would be "...AN FNC-80."

Don't mean to be a stickler, but 'F' is pronounced 'ef.'

Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:20:48 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:22:22 AM EST
I made serveral targets out of AR500 steel which is close to what you have. So far Ive not been able to shoot thru it. Ive fired .308 milsurp, 3006 milsurp, 8mm mauser Turkish milsurp, 30 carbine milsurp, M855 IMI and LC, 9mm several different makes of factory ammo, 243 Federal I think, 221 my reloads, 338 Federal factory and the worst thats happened is some light dimpling of the surface. Ive fired mostly M855 at it...about 1000 rds now and the targets are still in good shape. The only, slight, problem Ive had are hits around the edge b/c I flame cut. The metal is somewhat softer there.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:25:43 AM EST
I had to read "popper" twice to make sure I read it right....



SGtr15
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:26:18 AM EST
FMJ's with a rifle should be ok at 100yds, you might get a few ricochet's but as long as your shooting in a safe place you should be ok, I've shot a .50 inch plate at 100yds for years and I dont think I have ever heard one ricochet off of it, and most will just go right on through it , I have also shot 45acp fmj's at it with no problems , if you shoot cast bullets at it,it will cut a line on both sides of the plate from bullet fragmets.....
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:26:34 AM EST
Man I love Jalapeno poppers!

Yes but you will run a greater chance of getting hit with shrapnel.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:32:44 AM EST
Poppers are supposed to fall when hit, that's how they absorb the energy of the bullets. If your poppers don't fall, you are risking ricchochet city. I took about 1/3 of a squashed 9x18 in my side form 15yds. because a popper didn't fall. Luckily, it didn't hurt me too badly--just a nick and lots of blood for a few mins. Had a huge bruise on my side for weeks though.

Steel gongs at long range are less dangerous but still a riccochet hazard.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:33:00 AM EST

Originally Posted By H3At:


www.letargets.com/html/steel.html



Thanks for the link!

Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:33:02 AM EST
he said Popper
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:33:41 AM EST
because if you read it wrong it really changes the whole context of everyones posts......



SGatr15
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:37:35 AM EST
FMJ is fine. And I shoot steels all the time at about 12 yards with pistol rounds.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:38:47 AM EST
Pepper pooper? EEWWWWWW
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:40:58 AM EST

Originally Posted By themadhatter:
he said Popper




LoL i had to check if i speeled popper and not POOPER LoL


and if i had to take pics or something in that nature
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:48:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By Sin_Bin:

Originally Posted By H3At:


www.letargets.com/html/steel.html



Thanks for the link!





I would like to add these guys are great.Very helpful and always good to their customers.I always buy Cardboard targets from them and even my steel poper was not suppose to be in by today due to the fact they didnt have any in stock..But they got it in a couple days ago.


I highly Recommend them.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:53:24 AM EST
I have two, we shoot cast leads at it. So now worry about richocets.
We don't use it for rifle. We made one from 1/2" stainless that is welded to an A frame. It hangs back at about a 30* angle so that all shots are driven downward intot he ground.
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:54:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By H3At:

Originally Posted By themadhatter:
he said Popper




LoL i had to check if i speeled popper and not POOPER LoL


and if i had to take pics or something in that nature



Here ya go Ill post picts!

Link Posted: 10/21/2004 8:58:43 AM EST
Cast is best ,FMJ is next , hollow points seem to get most spray back.
We shoot .223 at poppers as close as 30 yards.
Our range has berms on 3 sides
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 9:55:52 AM EST
We have targets made of AR500 around here. The rule of thumb we use is: keep impact velocity under about 3000fps. For M193 and M855, this is no closer than about 100 yards. FMJ is fine. It's the velocity that's the killer.

-z
Link Posted: 10/21/2004 9:59:35 AM EST
Just stick it in there and post pics!

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Oh, sorry, he said popper.
Link Posted: 10/29/2004 8:52:46 AM EST
Well we were shooting .45 and 9mm as close as 20 yards,No dimple or indentation with the Handgun Calibers. Then i shot some Xm193 at 60 yards It made a dimple but when we hit the legs with the XM193 it went through like butter.

Will post pics when i get home.
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