PEQs/LAMs/Lasers should go away. (Page 1 of 5)
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Posted: 9/7/2026 4:04:37 PM EDT
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Why do you even have these? What are these stupid things for? Why do they exist? Why do you like emitting its disgusting. Why do you like having to press an extra button, are you retarded? Just stop. |
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Originally Posted By RustedAce: Why do you even have these? What are these stupid things for? Why do they exist? Why do you like emitting its disgusting. Why do you like having to press an extra button, are you retarded? Just stop. I'm assuming you still have an IR light and white light? It's just the laser you dislike? I also don't run a laser. Only a clicky light. |
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This is a discussion forum, not a "Affirm bad choices forum" Thank you for your attention to this matter. |
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Originally Posted By 0627Devildog: How the F else am I supposed to laze the sky during Classic 14 for maximum penalties? Right!! 12yrs ago beams were the Cola hotness for night runs. I agree passive is much better when the other side might have nods as well. It's a never ending tech and tactics war |
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Originally Posted By CJ47: I'm assuming you still have an IR light and white light? It's just the laser you dislike? I also don't run a laser. Only a clicky light. Yes. Though I dont use them very often, because fusion. |
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Originally Posted By Scare_Crow: Right!! 12yrs ago beams were the Cola hotness for night runs. I agree passive is much better when the other side might have nods as well. It's a never ending tech and tactics war Classic promoted passive before it was cool. |
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I’ve covered this recently in a ground wasp related thread. Without my IR to light the entrance hole, my night attack would have failed. I emmitted those stinging bastards straight to hell… Attached File |
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Originally Posted By RolandDeschain: Was there ever any doubt? Originally Posted By RolandDeschain: Originally Posted By alphajaguars: Wait, am I doing it wrong? Was there ever any doubt? *Looks at results from BG* No |
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Originally Posted By BIgDAM: I'm not, nostly because im poor, but it sure seems like someone in this thread has been for a long time. ![]() https://i.imgur.com/0OaVaBN.jpg That laser is particularly a piece of junk. Zero shift issues, clunky, stupid offset. I know lasers are awful because Ive used most of them a bunch. When I was an emitter, I emitted like a emitter, I thought like a emitter, I reasoned like a emitter. When I became a passive shooter, I put the ways of emitting behind me. |
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I've seen plenty of areas that were too dark for NODs. Shadows exist under moonlight/starlight too. Indoors especially. Mixed lighting can be even worse: bright spots autogate the NODs, so they can't see into the darker areas. NV without an IR illuminator is like twilight without a white light. Sure, don't illuminate if you don't need to, but sometimes you need to locate or PID a target. |
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Originally Posted By topgunpilot20: I've seen plenty of areas that were too dark for NODs. Shadows exist under moonlight/starlight too. Indoors especially. Mixed lighting can be even worse: bright spots autogate the NODs, so they can't see into the darker areas. NV without an IR illuminator is like twilight without a white light. Sure, don't illuminate if you don't need to, but sometimes you need to locate or PID a target. IR illuminators are fine when used sparingly. Lasers are stupid, always. |
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Originally Posted By RustedAce: Why do you even have these? What are these stupid things for? Why do they exist? Why do you like emitting its disgusting. Why do you like having to press an extra button, are you retarded? Just stop. Suddenly reminded of that one friend with his NCstar barrel clamp laser who swears he's gonna sweep his house with it on his AR at 2AM like it's an '80s action movie... |
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Originally Posted By RustedAce: IR illuminators are fine when used sparingly. Lasers are stupid, always. But the illuminator on my PEQ-15A is a laser |
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Originally Posted By AbsoluteLemur: But the illuminator on my PEQ-15A is a laser And the PEQ-15A illuminator pattern looks awful. Lessons there. |
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It's day eleven of the Apocalypse. You've escaped into the hills with your supplies, and are crouching in some bushes watching with your passive illumination equipped KAC and NODs to see if you've been followed. Nobody could spot your ghillie suit from this hide. All of a sudden you see a blinding light! It came from farther than you expected, farther than your passive reaches. There's a sharp pain in your your eye sockets and you flinch giving away your position. The TulAmmo FMJ spray and pray burst tears it's way through your hide and you. You've been hit by Boogaloo Bob, with his UTG decked out PSA and a simple high candela wml. You feel the wet heat as he looms inches from your face, dropping crumbs on the ground all around you. His voice creaks with moistness. 'White light emission' he whispers, stepping over your body as everything fades to black. He reaches out for your weapon with his Cheeto stained fingers. The last thing you feel - his NCSTAR sling gliding over your face. |
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lol. Saw this on marketplace today. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By HobbitHunter: All of a sudden you see a blinding light! It came from farther than you expected, farther than your passive reaches. There's a sharp pain in your your eye sockets and you flinch giving away your position. Patriot Games and its portrayal of night vision has been a disaster for man kind. |
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Short range, sure. But shooting stuff at 500+m with a long range clip on even with an unfilmed 2500+ FOM tube with 0% moon and cloudy skies is impossible without illuminating something. Sometimes it’s a necessary evil. |
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Originally Posted By Airborne11B: Short range, sure. But shooting stuff at 500+m with a long range clip on even with an unfilmed 2500+ FOM tube with 0% moon and cloudy skies is impossible without illuminating something. Sometimes it’s a necessary evil. You use a laser to aim with a Clip-on?
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Originally Posted By RustedAce: You use a laser to aim with a Clip-on? ![]() Originally Posted By RustedAce: Originally Posted By Airborne11B: Short range, sure. But shooting stuff at 500+m with a long range clip on even with an unfilmed 2500+ FOM tube with 0% moon and cloudy skies is impossible without illuminating something. Sometimes it’s a necessary evil. You use a laser to aim with a Clip-on? ![]() You didn’t say just lasers. You said emitting. An IR illuminator fits your “disgusting” criteria per your words. I use / used a PEQ15 all the time both in combat and shooting on a flat range - miraculously I’m still alive. ETA: it’s not the tool it’s the training and discipline to use it appropriately. |
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Originally Posted By Airborne11B: ETA: it’s not the tool it’s the training and discipline to use it appropriately. Then dont use nightvision and just use a lamp or eat more carrots or something. |
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Originally Posted By RustedAce: And the PEQ-15A illuminator pattern looks awful. Lessons there. Yeah, I use the thing as a wheel chock for my ride-on mower these days. |
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Are white light emissions ok? Im over here trying to fit a square peg into a round hole... Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Alpinist: OP did you get a cool guy knowledge transfer? Ive been yelling about this on here for a million years, it just seemed time for another thread on it. |
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I like my OG PEQ2 for having the ability to illum sparingly as required. While its plastic housing may not be the most robust available I'm a big fan of the illuminators brightness and ease of adjustment. 20 years ago I'd use the pointer more, but rarely if ever these days. Passive aiming is where it's at for most anything I'd need to deal with. Pointer use is still an arrow in the quiver if the circumstances dictate it's use. |
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Originally Posted By KavonTN: Are white light emissions ok? Im over here trying to fit a square peg into a round hole... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/116042/1000018414_jpg-3823952.JPG Ewwww this Mini 14 infatuation needs to die. (Yes I have one and it disgusts me but at least I didn't pay for it) |
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