[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Operator Suppressor Systems? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 1/15/2014 8:07:45 AM EDT
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Anyone heard of them? OSS
They apparently have generated some buzz by creating a no back pressure suppressor as well as running an offsite event in Vegas called Beyond Shot (FB linky) Their facebook also says that HK is supposed to announce OSS as an official suppressor to the MR556 and MR762. Google didn't pull anything up for me so I don't think its a dupe. |
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Looks like they are on the HK's at the 2014 shot show.
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Quoted: I'd tell you not to shoot the messenger but your "back pressured" suppressor would inhibit you from any follow on shots.  Quoted: Quoted: So, in over 100 years of suppressor design.. These are the only folks in the world to develop a "no back pressure" design?  I'd tell you not to shoot the messenger but your "back pressured" suppressor would inhibit you from any follow on shots. Ever shot with one? |
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So, in over 100 years of suppressor design.. These are the only folks in the world to develop a "no back pressure" design? I dont know about only, but they have a 100% blowback/backpressure/whatever you wanna call the gas in your face free can. And damn near recoil free. And no mirage off the top. |
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Why does every new product every new company makes have to have some stupid-ass acronym? THE VFR, VCR, TBR, CHECK OUT OUR NEW TSR AND ATS RAIL SYSTEM! Every male employed by the company when I dealt with them was active, reserve, or retired SF. That's probably why. |
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Every male employed by the company when I dealt with them was active, reserve, or retired SF. That's probably why. Quoted:
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Why does every new product every new company makes have to have some stupid-ass acronym? THE VFR, VCR, TBR, CHECK OUT OUR NEW TSR AND ATS RAIL SYSTEM! Every male employed by the company when I dealt with them was active, reserve, or retired SF. That's probably why. So the ~8 grand I gave to Surefire, AAC and KAC in November, and the 1000+ to the ATF is all outdated?!? 
Just tell me where to send the next check
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Searched YouTube for some videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuf03PS6-C8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXdFFbxOoRI |
| I am glad this thread was started because the news has been out for a little while now but most people don't understand that this is almost garrunteed to be the system that the SEALs/Delta/SuperSecretSquirrelSquad using right now and these will supposedly be available to the public on MR rifles. I would really love to own each of those guns. |
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So the ~8 grand I gave to Surefire, AAC and KAC in November, and the 1000+ to the ATF is all outdated?!?
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Why does every new product every new company makes have to have some stupid-ass acronym? THE VFR, VCR, TBR, CHECK OUT OUR NEW TSR AND ATS RAIL SYSTEM! Every male employed by the company when I dealt with them was active, reserve, or retired SF. That's probably why. So the ~8 grand I gave to Surefire, AAC and KAC in November, and the 1000+ to the ATF is all outdated?!?
Just tell me where to send the next check They're not really quieter than any of them. But they're an absolute pleasure to shoot. I was shooting them on a couple of 14.5 guns and it felt like shooting a .22. Sound was comparable to mainstream cans, and the annoying gas in the face just wasn't there. |
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I am glad this thread was started because the news has been out for a little while now but most people don't understand that this is almost garrunteed to be the system that the SEALs/Delta/SuperSecretSquirrelSquad using right now and these will supposedly be available to the public on MR rifles. I would really love to own each of those guns. I dunno about all that, but that was certainly the intent. They problem they're going to have is the initial cost, and how complicated the system is. It's not a screw on, one piece can. It's several different parts. |
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I dunno about all that, but that was certainly the intent. They problem they're going to have is the initial cost, and how complicated the system is. It's not a screw on, one piece can. It's several different parts. Quoted:
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I am glad this thread was started because the news has been out for a little while now but most people don't understand that this is almost garrunteed to be the system that the SEALs/Delta/SuperSecretSquirrelSquad using right now and these will supposedly be available to the public on MR rifles. I would really love to own each of those guns. I dunno about all that, but that was certainly the intent. They problem they're going to have is the initial cost, and how complicated the system is. It's not a screw on, one piece can. It's several different parts. The initial cost will only be very high on the civilian side and only because the MR series is very expensive. On the .mil side they probably already ordered OSS suppressor a for their 416's a long time ago. Notice that these were shown on non-A5 416/417's which are the same type used by U.S. and most other .mil. This could actually make the A5 adjustible gas block unneeded if it works well enough. This rail is also likely the reason that other companies with 416/417 rail systems aren't producing them with the most notable being Geissele. |
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The initial cost will only be very high on the civilian side and only because the MR series is very expensive. On the .mil side they probably already ordered OSS suppressor a for their 416's a long time ago. Notice that these were shown on non-A5 416/417's which are the same type used by U.S. and most other .mil. This could actually make the A5 adjustible gas block unneeded if it works well enough. This rail is also likely the reason that other companies with 416/417 rail systems aren't producing them with the most notable being Geissele. Quoted:
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I am glad this thread was started because the news has been out for a little while now but most people don't understand that this is almost garrunteed to be the system that the SEALs/Delta/SuperSecretSquirrelSquad using right now and these will supposedly be available to the public on MR rifles. I would really love to own each of those guns. I dunno about all that, but that was certainly the intent. They problem they're going to have is the initial cost, and how complicated the system is. It's not a screw on, one piece can. It's several different parts. The initial cost will only be very high on the civilian side and only because the MR series is very expensive. On the .mil side they probably already ordered OSS suppressor a for their 416's a long time ago. Notice that these were shown on non-A5 416/417's which are the same type used by U.S. and most other .mil. This could actually make the A5 adjustible gas block unneeded if it works well enough. This rail is also likely the reason that other companies with 416/417 rail systems aren't producing them with the most notable being Geissele. $1500. But to become a dealer, minimum order is $10k. Another problem is that they're trying to produce next gen stuff now, so several dealers I know are scared fyi buy current gen. |
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$1500. But to become a dealer, minimum order is $10k. Another problem is that they're trying to produce next gen stuff now, so several dealers I know are scared fyi buy current gen. Quoted:
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I am glad this thread was started because the news has been out for a little while now but most people don't understand that this is almost garrunteed to be the system that the SEALs/Delta/SuperSecretSquirrelSquad using right now and these will supposedly be available to the public on MR rifles. I would really love to own each of those guns. I dunno about all that, but that was certainly the intent. They problem they're going to have is the initial cost, and how complicated the system is. It's not a screw on, one piece can. It's several different parts. The initial cost will only be very high on the civilian side and only because the MR series is very expensive. On the .mil side they probably already ordered OSS suppressor a for their 416's a long time ago. Notice that these were shown on non-A5 416/417's which are the same type used by U.S. and most other .mil. This could actually make the A5 adjustible gas block unneeded if it works well enough. This rail is also likely the reason that other companies with 416/417 rail systems aren't producing them with the most notable being Geissele. $1500. But to become a dealer, minimum order is $10k. Another problem is that they're trying to produce next gen stuff now, so several dealers I know are scared fyi buy current gen. This all hinges on if it works like they say it does and if SF guys use it. If Hk is pimping these then OSS isn't going to be able to make enough cans to meet demand because just about everyone in Europe who gets issued a suppressor also gets issued an Hk rifle. |
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So, in over 100 years of suppressor design.. These are the only folks in the world to develop a "no back pressure" design? I'm guessing either a ton of volume or multiple vents so slowed gasses can exit more places instead of squeezing out of a tiny hole in the front. Couple either/both of those with low granularity in your measurement and it's achievable. Years ago a friend and I were using matlab to fuck around with can designs and we got really low gas velocities using both of those features. I think it was under 13 m/s. The can size was ridiculously large which made the whole thing unfeasible. |
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If it does what they say it does at the size pictured, the internals must be some serious labyrinthine voodoo shit.I think there may be a magnet on a treadmill in there.
But honestly, it wouldn't surprise me that much. Suppression tech has been exploding over the last decade or so... lots and lots of new brains working on the problem. |
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If it does what they say it does at the size pictured, the internals must be some serious labyrinthine voodoo shit.I think there may be a magnet on a treadmill in there. But honestly, it wouldn't surprise me that much. Suppression tech has been exploding over the last decade or so... lots and lots of new brains working on the problem. 
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The OSS is a multi piece configurable system but the BPR with one SRM on the Hk 308 from the literature released appears to weigh in at around 22oz if I was reading it correctly. Quoted:
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How much do they weigh? The OSS is a multi piece configurable system but the BPR with one SRM on the Hk 308 from the literature released appears to weigh in at around 22oz if I was reading it correctly. The ones we used were that heavy, but they were bob designs so they didn't feel that heavy. |
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I'd like to see how well these hold up to the military's firing schedule. The best way to maintain structural integrity in a high pressure device is to use an octagonal shape. 
Laws of physics be dammed, its got to look cool! The octagon is wonderful and damned useful. And it's plenty strong enough. |
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I'm not an HK fan at all, but OSS suppresors are the shit. Best I've ever seen, and one of the most innovative firearms related items I've seen in my lifetime. Period. ETA: I'm not buying one because I can't afford one. Im going to buy a banner 5.56 soon. One day I'll have the full set up. |
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Wow Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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So the ~8 grand I gave to Surefire, AAC and KAC in November, and the 1000+ to the ATF is all outdated?!?
Just tell me where to send the next check Quoted:
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Why does every new product every new company makes have to have some stupid-ass acronym? THE VFR, VCR, TBR, CHECK OUT OUR NEW TSR AND ATS RAIL SYSTEM! Every male employed by the company when I dealt with them was active, reserve, or retired SF. That's probably why. So the ~8 grand I gave to Surefire, AAC and KAC in November, and the 1000+ to the ATF is all outdated?!?
Just tell me where to send the next check IM sent. It's my address, I need the funds.
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That looks like the different Fleshlight cutaways.
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My only complaint with my current suppressors is the 20X increase in fouling of the bolt carrier, upper, and even the carbon and contamination that gets forced down into the magazines.
If this new suppressor system eliminates the increase in fouling of suppressed weapons, it will be worth every penny. |
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Quoted: My only complaint with my current suppressors is the 20X increase in fouling of the bolt carrier, upper, and even the carbon and contamination that gets forced down into the magazines. If this new suppressor system eliminates the increase in fouling of suppressed weapons, it will be worth every penny. Another issues comes up. Now that all the gas is supposedly going through the suppressor instead of the receiver, is the suppressor user cleanable? All of that mess has to end up somewhere. |
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My only complaint with my current suppressors is the 20X increase in fouling of the bolt carrier, upper, and even the carbon and contamination that gets forced down into the magazines. If this new suppressor system eliminates the increase in fouling of suppressed weapons, it will be worth every penny. This is why I bought a parts washer filled with 725 gun cleaner. Works like a champ and is thus far the only way I have found to really clean an upper that has been shot suppressed. |
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Looking at the 3d printed cutaways, are those little gas ports/routing on the sidewalls or just supports from the 3d printing? |
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Odd how HK who uses piston and roller systems is so impressed by a low backless sure setup that would more impress a DI manufacturer Suppressor back pressure comes from the can pushing gas back through the barrel into the chamber once the action starts to unlock. Piston guns will put gas in your face the same as DI. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Meh
I'll believe it when they hit shelves in quantity The silencer segment of the firearms market seems to be the segment with more vaporware problems than anything else by far.. Even the stuff that makes it to market, never starts shipping until right before the next SHOT show. |