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1/11/2004 10:00:48 AM EDT
I don't know if this has been posted before but YIKES. www.thegunzone.com/m1akb.html#fn3

A little sample!!

1/11/2004 10:12:20 AM EDT
[#1]
That poor M1A.
1/11/2004 10:15:09 AM EDT
[#2]
Some glue, a little paint - it'll be fine.
1/11/2004 10:15:24 AM EDT
[#3]
After you read through all of the stuff about that it all comes down to the barrel was not up to snuff and that's what failed.

"The barrel was a commercial medium weight contour barrel, not a GI barrel, and had no markings at all. So unless Chris knows who made it, it's not possible to know"
1/11/2004 10:22:55 AM EDT
[#4]
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After you read through all of the stuff about that it all comes down to the barrel was not up to snuff and that's what failed.

"The barrel was a commercial medium weight contour barrel, not a GI barrel, and had no markings at all. So unless Chris knows who made it, it's not possible to know"
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Moral of the story, Buy Quality!!!!

The guy who shot that is lucky, other than a few cuts and change of underwear, he came out alright!!!!
1/11/2004 10:25:14 AM EDT
[#5]
Is that a chinese copy??
1/11/2004 10:27:50 AM EDT
[#6]
guess i'll be the first to say it.

i thought that only happened to Glocks....


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1/11/2004 11:15:36 AM EDT
[#7]

It's just a sprain.
1/11/2004 11:19:33 AM EDT
[#8]
wow!
1/11/2004 11:22:16 AM EDT
[#9]
Ouch-I bet that'll leave a mark.
1/11/2004 11:23:08 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
guess i'll be the first to say it.

i thought that only happened to Glocks....


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rumor has it it was a glock prototype barrell [:D] j/k
1/11/2004 11:33:15 AM EDT
[#11]
I know a guy who has one like that from that junk ammo a few years ago-was it CBC? South American stuff with tar sealer around the neck.
1/11/2004 8:00:20 PM EDT
[#12]
That story sure made waves about 2-3 years ago.

The testwork on the no-name commercial barrel indicated a poorly heat treated barrel - held at too high a temp for too long.  Basically the same story as old springfield actions.

[url]http://www.thegunzone.com/m1akb/762r.html[/url]
1/11/2004 8:10:36 PM EDT
[#13]
I remember reading the metallurgical report about it.  It was a cheap no-name barrel that had a fatal flaw, and the barrel failed and killed the whole rifle.

And yes, the moral of the story is, don't cheap out on critical parts!

1/11/2004 8:11:07 PM EDT
[#14]
[img]http://www.thegunzone.com/m1akb/762d15.jpg[/img]

[b][MacGyver]I can fix that with duct tape[/MacGyver][/b]
1/11/2004 8:14:09 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I know a guy who has one like that from that junk ammo a few years ago-was it CBC? South American stuff with tar sealer around the neck.
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tar, sounds like that indian ammo
1/11/2004 8:30:22 PM EDT
[#16]
An M1A blows apart into a hundred pieces, and amazingly the rifle case came out unscathed.
How dey do dat?
1/11/2004 8:33:49 PM EDT
[#17]
Looks like the scope and [s]flash suppressor[/s] muzzle brake (break!)  came out just fine [:)]
1/11/2004 8:37:32 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I know a guy who has one like that from that junk ammo a few years ago-was it CBC? South American stuff with tar sealer around the neck.
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tar, sounds like that indian ammo
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No, he's talking about CAVIM.
1/11/2004 8:44:12 PM EDT
[#19]
eh, just pour some robotussin on it.
1/11/2004 8:54:11 PM EDT
[#20]
"It's only a flesh wound!" [NI]
1/11/2004 8:56:19 PM EDT
[#21]
Send it to the guy that fixed the Lambo.

CW
1/11/2004 9:18:34 PM EDT
[#22]
I would find that disconcerting...
1/11/2004 9:24:28 PM EDT
[#23]
Damn.........
1/11/2004 9:47:55 PM EDT
[#24]
Cool.

Guess I wasn't the only one thinking "its only a flesh wound" [lol]
1/11/2004 10:06:41 PM EDT
[#25]
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How dey do dat?
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The barrel failed, look at the split in it. The split is forward of the chamber. No reason for the case to fail if the round wasn't overpressure. The chamber pressure would have dropped to zero the instant the bore was breached.
1/11/2004 10:23:26 PM EDT
[#26]
Any minute now Dean wil show up ranting about you stealing his "intellectual property"...
1/11/2004 11:42:51 PM EDT
[#27]
My dad fixes TV's.  He has an awesome set of tools.  I can fix it.
1/12/2004 1:51:41 AM EDT
[#28]
You mean a .223 muzzle brake won't work on .308s?
Well, it looked cool.
1/12/2004 2:54:36 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
[url]http://www.thegunzone.com/m1akb/762d15.jpg[/url]

[b][MacGyver]I can fix that with duct tape[/MacGyver][/b]
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MacGyver doesn't use guns though.. he'd take all the pieces and use some springs and pieces of metal to make an incredibly ingenious booby trap that sprayed a sedative into the face of his advarsary.
1/12/2004 3:46:15 AM EDT
[#30]
Is...err, WAS... that a Hesse-built rifle?

[:D]
1/12/2004 4:33:17 AM EDT
[#31]
Wow. Man, that hurts just looking at it... [:(]
1/12/2004 5:16:35 AM EDT
[#32]
i bet the green paint caused the malfunction, heck, maybee if it had more paint to hold it all together
1/12/2004 5:34:43 AM EDT
[#33]
WTS: Springfield Armory M1A - Sling and Case in great condition. Rifle only fired once. Some cosmetic flaws. Unique 2-piece scope. RARE!
1/12/2004 10:08:02 AM EDT
[#34]
Nothing at all wrong with the ammunition.  It was completely in spec.  The problem was obviously the barrel.  When you looked at both the barrel and the ruptured cartridge case you could see how the cartridge case was extruded into the corresponding cracks in the barrel BEFORE the case ruptured.  If the case had ruptured first, the edges of the rupture would have been destroyed by high pressure, high temp gasses rather than simply broken like that. The barrel failed first, then the case ruptured when no longer adequately supported by the case.

The Knee jerks spouted off for a few weeks about how horrible the ammunition was and how it could only be fired out of MG's and bolt actions.  Meanwhile, the engineer types were saying..."hey wait a minute, that wasn't a case failure."
1/12/2004 1:45:19 PM EDT
[#35]
Now if he'ld been using one of the new composite stocks it wouldn't have happened they'ld have held it all together,
1/12/2004 8:28:23 PM EDT
[#36]
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Looks like the scope and [s]flash suppressor[/s] muzzle brake (break!)  came out just fine [:)]
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I don’t know – that scope looks a little sick to me!!  [:D]

OTOH, the sling appears to be reusable.
1/12/2004 10:13:41 PM EDT
[#37]
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The Knee jerks spouted off for a few weeks
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Do we have any contact info for the owner of that piece? I know the article stated the barrel had no maker's marks but I would really like to get a closer look at it bc I have a suspicion.