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3/5/2009 3:45:24 AM EDT
How bad is it?
She licked some off of a rifle last night.
She pooped and puked like crazy and wouldn't eat her breakfast this morning which is very unusual.
The vet said to call poison control, but I figure she's just gotta get it out of her system.
Somebody here has had that happen before I'm sure.

Thanks!
3/5/2009 3:51:35 AM EDT
[#1]
I can't imagine she got much of a tummyfull by licking it off a rifle
Even if you had it sopping wet, that's not much of a quantity.

I suppose it wouldn't hurt to call poison control and ask, it's a free call.
Is the dog drinking water?

To be honest, I'm really surprised she got sick at all.
3/5/2009 3:52:01 AM EDT
[#2]
I would of suggested at least calling poison control last night or contact the manufacturer as they will have the MSDS and all other pertinent info on it's ill effects.  I wouldn't mess around any longer and would contact someone in the know immediately.  Good luck.
3/5/2009 3:52:46 AM EDT
[#3]
prepare for massive shits...btdt with my german shepherd
3/5/2009 3:56:06 AM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
prepare for massive shits...btdt with my german shepherd


How long until everything returned to normal?
3/5/2009 3:56:51 AM EDT
[#5]
I saw this thread title out of the corner of my eye and while I was hitting the back button. Did kind of a double take. For a second, I thought it said, "My dog ingested LCP".
3/5/2009 4:02:25 AM EDT
[#6]
poison control- I would call them
might be too late for this-but I see stuff say drink milk-to coat the tummy.
dont even know if a dog would-even more since it is already sick
3/5/2009 4:06:45 AM EDT
[#7]
Yeah I would call poison control. I know a dog does not have to lick much antifreeze to get really sick or die so it might be worth the call. Good luck bud, i am sure the pooch will be fine. Might need to steam clean the carpets though
3/5/2009 4:14:18 AM EDT
[#8]
Well, poison control won't do pets.
There is a pet poison control though.
I just paid $35 for someone to tell me to call back if it doesn't get better.

I read the MSDS, shouldn't be a big deal.
Poor little girl is really bummed this morning though.
3/5/2009 4:18:19 AM EDT
[#9]
3/5/2009 4:27:15 AM EDT
[#10]
I've heard (from a dog breeder) that dogs can benefit from being given some garlic mixed with water. Sort of acts like activated charcoal.
3/5/2009 4:55:33 AM EDT
[#11]
well, at the very least, you know she isn't going to rust!
3/5/2009 5:11:12 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
I've heard (from a dog breeder) that dogs can benefit from being given some garlic mixed with water. Sort of acts like activated charcoal.


DO NOT give your dog garlic or onions. They are toxic to dogs.

http://www.healthypet.com/library_view.aspx?id=133

Mike F
3/5/2009 5:15:16 AM EDT
[#13]
She is doing better, I think she pooped and puked it all out.
Should be good to go, she's currently barking at deer, she finally ate and drank some water.
3/5/2009 5:19:17 AM EDT
[#14]
CLP contains mostly polyalphaolefin oil, but also dibasic esters  and isoparaffinic hydrocarbons.  (All of which can be absorbed into skin by the way).  

Polyalphaolefin is not generally considered toxic to mammals, but can be an irritant.

Likewise, Isoparaffins have a very low order of acute toxicity, so that ingredient probably isn't the problem.  

Dibasic esters are what gives CLP its fruity smell.   I don't know what mix of esters they're using, among the succinate,  glutarate or adipate varieties, but I do think there are some published studies indicating these bring a risk of cytotoxicity, though it is supposed to be minor.  

Get on the horn with poison control and tell them your dog ingested an unknown quantity of polyalphaolefin oil, dibasic esters and isoparaffinic hydrocarbons.   See if they have a recommended mitigation treatmetn.
3/5/2009 5:22:30 AM EDT
[#15]
Her shit will be protected from rust.
3/5/2009 5:36:55 AM EDT
[#16]


Quoted:
Her shit will be protected from rust.


and since there now teflon coated they should fly out with every fart.




3/5/2009 5:39:09 AM EDT
[#17]
Well, CLP is supposed to help release lead from the action/barrel/etc.  I'd still be a bit worried about the long term effects of lead ingestion.

I'm not a vet or scientist or Dave_A, so I'm not saying that with any authority on the subject, it's just the way I'd look at it.
3/5/2009 5:40:02 AM EDT
[#18]
Teflon coated dog... a cop's worst nightmare...
3/5/2009 5:53:28 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
prepare for massive shits...btdt with my german shepherd


If my dogs shit would smell like CLP, I'd feed it to him myself.
3/5/2009 6:01:04 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
CLP contains mostly polyalphaolefin oil, but also dibasic esters  and isoparaffinic hydrocarbons.  (All of which can be absorbed into skin by the way).  

Polyalphaolefin is not generally considered toxic to mammals, but can be an irritant.

Likewise, Isoparaffins have a very low order of acute toxicity, so that ingredient probably isn't the problem.  

Dibasic esters are what gives CLP its fruity smell.   I don't know what mix of esters they're using, among the succinate,  glutarate or adipate varieties, but I do think there are some published studies indicating these bring a risk of cytotoxicity, though it is supposed to be minor.  

Get on the horn with poison control and tell them your dog ingested an unknown quantity of polyalphaolefin oil, dibasic esters and isoparaffinic hydrocarbons.   See if they have a recommended mitigation treatmetn.


I'm trying to think of something succinct to say in response to that, but I'm stumped. It went over my head, flew past me, changed the trajectory of the thread, and made me completely forget the one-liner I was going to post in response to the OP.
3/5/2009 6:01:12 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
Quoted:
prepare for massive shits...btdt with my german shepherd


If my dogs shit would smell like CLP, I'd feed it to him myself.




3/5/2009 6:37:10 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
CLP contains mostly polyalphaolefin oil, but also dibasic esters  and isoparaffinic hydrocarbons.  (All of which can be absorbed into skin by the way).  

Polyalphaolefin is not generally considered toxic to mammals, but can be an irritant.

Likewise, Isoparaffins have a very low order of acute toxicity, so that ingredient probably isn't the problem.  

Dibasic esters are what gives CLP its fruity smell.   I don't know what mix of esters they're using, among the succinate,  glutarate or adipate varieties, but I do think there are some published studies indicating these bring a risk of cytotoxicity, though it is supposed to be minor.  

Get on the horn with poison control and tell them your dog ingested an unknown quantity of polyalphaolefin oil, dibasic esters and isoparaffinic hydrocarbons.   See if they have a recommended mitigation treatmetn.



Yeah, it made her shit like crazy.
3/5/2009 6:40:39 AM EDT
[#23]
just run a bore snake through him and call it good.
3/5/2009 6:47:52 AM EDT
[#24]
From the Break Free website:

Link

Health Hazard Data CLP
===========================================================================
LD50-LC50 Mixture: LD50 > 5G/KG
Route Of Entry - Inhalation: YES
Route Of Entry - Skin: YES
Route Of Entry - Ingestion: NO
Health Haz Acute And Chronic: INHALATION MAY CAUSE RESPIRATORY IRRITATION
AND DISCOMFORT, CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM EFFECTS. ASPIRATION HAZARD. SKIN
CONTACT MAY CAUSE SLIGHT TO MODERATE REDNESS. EYE CONTACT MAY CAUSE
TRANSIENT IRRITATION. PROLONGED AND/OR REPEATED SKIN CONTACT MAY CAUSE
IRRITATION AND DERMATITIS.
Carcinogenicity - NTP: NO
Carcinogenicity - IARC: NO
Carcinogenicity - OSHA: NO
Explanation Carcinogenicity: THIS COMPOUND CONTAINS NO INGREDIENTS AT
CONCENTRATIONS OF 0.1% OR GREATER THAT ARE CARCINOGENS OR SUSPECT
CARCINOGENS.
Signs/Symptoms Of Overexp: RESPIRATORY IRRITATION/DISCOMFORT, DIZZINESS,
WEAKNESS, FATIGUE, NAUSEA, HEADACHES, UNCONSCIOUSNESS, CHEMICAL PNEUMONIA,
SKIN REDNESS/IRRITATION, DERMATITIS, EYE IRRITATION.
Med Cond Aggravated By Exp: NONE SPECIFIED BY MANUFACTURER.
Emergency/First Aid Proc: EYES: IMMEDIATELY FLUSH WITH WATER FOR AT LEAST
15 MINUTES. FLUSH UNDER LIDS BY LIFTING THEM OR ROLLING EYES. SEE DOCTOR
ASAP. SKIN: FLUSH WITH WATER. REMOVE CLOTHING AND CONTINUE FLUSHING.
INHALATION: REMOVE TO FRESH AIR AND RESTORE BREATHING. GET MEDICAL HELP.
INGESTION: DO NOT INDUCE VOMITING. DILUTE. GET PHYSICIAN.
===========================================================================


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===========================================================================
Health Hazard Data Aerosol CLP
===========================================================================
LD50-LC50 Mixture: LD50 >5G/KG, LOW LEVEL OF TOXICITY.
Route Of Entry - Inhalation: YES
Route Of Entry - Skin: YES
Route Of Entry - Ingestion: YES
Health Haz Acute And Chronic: SKIN- PROLONGED AND REPEATED CONTACT ON THE
SKIN COULD CAUSE IRRITATION AND POSSIBLE DERMATITIS. INHALATIONRESPIRATORY
IRRITATION AND DISCOMFORT MAY RESULT. EXCESSIVE INHALATION MAY
CAUSE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM EFFECTS. INGESTION- MAY CAUSE IRRITATION TO
DIGESTIVE TRACT. EYES- POSSIBLE TRANSIENT IRRITATION.
Carcinogenicity - NTP: NO
Carcinogenicity - IARC: NO
Carcinogenicity - OSHA: NO
Explanation Carcinogenicity: NOT APPLICABLE
Signs/Symptoms Of Overexp: INHALATION- DIZZINESS, WEAKNESS, FATIGUE,
NAUSEA, HEADACHES AND POSSIBLE UNCONSCIOUSNESS WITH EXCESSIVE INHALATION.
SKIN- POSSIBLE SLIGHT TO MODERATE REDNESS MAY OCCUR WITH EXTENDED DAILY
EXPOSURE.
Med Cond Aggravated By Exp: PRE-EXISTING SKIN, EYE AND RESPIRATORY
DISORDERS MAY BE AGGRAVATED BY EXPOSURE TO MATERIAL.
Emergency/First Aid Proc: EYES- FLUSH IMMEDIATELY WITH WATER FOR AT LEAST
15 MINUTES. SKIN- WASH WITH SOAP AND WATER, LAUNDER CONTAMINATED CLOTHING
BRFORE REUSE. INGESTION- DO NOT INDUCE VOMITING. IF CONSCIOUS, DRINK LARGE
QUANTITIES OF WATER AND SEEK IMMEDIATE MEDICAL ATTENTION
. INHALATION- MOVE
TO FRESH AIR. CALL A PHYSICIAN IF ANESTHETIC OR NARCOTIC EFFECTS RESULT.
ASSIST WITH BREATHING SUPPORT MEASURES IF NEEDED.