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6/19/2013 2:26:26 PM EDT
Sights are real, Buyer and seller are both happy   Deal is done, awaiting shipment.

WebViper is a good guy.  Deal with confidence.

No life basement dwellers will need to find another dead horse to beat.
6/19/2013 2:27:57 PM EDT
[#1]
They look real to me
6/19/2013 2:31:23 PM EDT
[#2]
Look at this pic from Brownells.  The Windage markers are not filled in.



6/19/2013 2:33:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Maybe send the pictures to Troy and ask them?
6/19/2013 2:33:35 PM EDT
[#4]
Buy from a dealer.
6/19/2013 2:34:31 PM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:


Look at this pic from Brownells.  The Windage markers are not filled in.



http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/products/l_100011225_3.jpg



http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/products/l_100011225_2.jpg


Mine are filled in.

 
6/19/2013 2:35:00 PM EDT
[#6]
Troy micros?

Look legit to me
6/19/2013 2:35:42 PM EDT
[#7]
If those are fake, they're an outstanding quality fake.
6/19/2013 2:36:39 PM EDT
[#8]
Here is a comparison.  The pics on the left are from Brownells.  My other BUIS dont have painted windage lines either.....

6/19/2013 2:37:01 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Maybe send the pictures to Troy and ask them?


Going to do that.
6/19/2013 2:38:11 PM EDT
[#10]
They are real.  Next.
6/19/2013 2:39:53 PM EDT
[#11]
Those are micros, right? Mine seem taller than that.




6/19/2013 2:40:23 PM EDT
[#12]
They're real, I work for a sponsor here, see them many times a day.
6/19/2013 2:44:37 PM EDT
[#13]
So this crooked lettering is normal?

THESE ARE A ZOOM IN OF THE BUIS FOR SALE, FRONT AND REAR




HERE ARE MY BUIS  BIG DIFFERENCE

6/19/2013 2:47:00 PM EDT
[#14]
The crooked lettering is present in both pictures. The same letters even.

Furthermore you are putting the cart in front of the horse if you committed to buy them and now you are having follow up q's/accusing the seller of possible fraud.

You are a welch waiting to happen.


ETA: Good feedback though.  LOL
6/19/2013 2:50:31 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
So this crooked lettering is normal?

http://i41.tinypic.com/ip42rm.png



Look at your pics. The word industries is crooked the same way I'm EVERY pic. If one is legit, they all are imo.

No one's going to fake that.
6/19/2013 2:51:34 PM EDT
[#16]
My windage markers are filled in on the set I purchased directly from Troy.
6/19/2013 2:52:00 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
The crooked lettering is present in both pictures. The same letters even.

Furthermore you are putting the cart in front of the horse if you committed to buy them and now you are having follow up q's/accusing the seller of possible fraud.

You are a welch waiting to happen.


ETA: Good feedback though.  LOL


THe pictures of the crooked lettering is of the front and rear sight.  Not two different ones.  Before you start making welch statements take a look at my feedback.  If these sights are fake and represented as real, a commitment to buy is a moot factor.  

I am not looking for a way out.  I HOPE they are real as they are a great deal, but before I sent the money I want to be sure.

I did the transaction before I saw pics as I was on JRS and could not see pics.
6/19/2013 2:52:20 PM EDT
[#18]


Yours are taller because they aren't micros
6/19/2013 3:10:03 PM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
So this crooked lettering is normal?

THESE ARE A ZOOM IN OF THE BUIS FOR SALE, FRONT AND REAR

http://i41.tinypic.com/ip42rm.png


HERE ARE MY BUIS  BIG DIFFERENCE

http://i42.tinypic.com/2wlrpsp.jpg


It could just be the toaster quality picture, in the first picture. Making the letters look crooked.
6/19/2013 3:20:18 PM EDT
[#20]

I know

6/19/2013 3:25:44 PM EDT
[#21]
Can someone comment on these differences please?


THESE ARE A ZOOM IN OF THE BUIS FOR SALE, FRONT AND REAR




HERE ARE MY BUIS  BIG DIFFERENCE

6/19/2013 3:26:36 PM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
The crooked lettering is present in both pictures. The same letters even.

Furthermore you are putting the cart in front of the horse if you committed to buy them and now you are having follow up q's/accusing the seller of possible fraud.

You are a welch waiting to happen.


ETA: Good feedback though.  LOL


6/19/2013 3:28:19 PM EDT
[#23]
Take it to an EE mod.
6/19/2013 3:33:09 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Can someone comment on these differences please?


THESE ARE A ZOOM IN OF THE BUIS FOR SALE, FRONT AND REAR

http://i41.tinypic.com/ip42rm.png


HERE ARE MY BUIS  BIG DIFFERENCE

http://i42.tinypic.com/2wlrpsp.jpg


It is a crappy picture, hard to judge.
6/19/2013 3:37:39 PM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Take it to an EE mod.


I sent a message to UAFGrad.

FTR, I really hope the sights are real.  I just am not going to shell the money out until I know for a fact they are.  Once I have confirmation, funds will go out IMMEDIATELY.  Hopefully I can get a hold of TROY in the morning as well
6/19/2013 3:43:29 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
Can someone comment on these differences please?


THESE ARE A ZOOM IN OF THE BUIS FOR SALE, FRONT AND REAR

http://i41.tinypic.com/ip42rm.png


HERE ARE MY BUIS  BIG DIFFERENCE

http://i42.tinypic.com/2wlrpsp.jpg
Lowres, highly pixelated image.  

6/19/2013 3:44:00 PM EDT
[#27]
I suspect the "crooked lettering" is an image artifact.

They do not look like the obvious fakes I have seen.

If you want to know for sure, ask Troy.
6/19/2013 3:44:27 PM EDT
[#28]
There is NO detail on the TROY LOGO in the EE ones compared to the REAL ONES.  Ask for better pics
6/19/2013 3:49:15 PM EDT
[#29]
Why would both the front and rear sights have the same cage number? Wouldn't they be different as they are different parts?
6/19/2013 3:50:35 PM EDT
[#30]
The lettering dies are probably getting worn out.
6/19/2013 3:56:22 PM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
Why would both the front and rear sights have the same cage number? Wouldn't they be different as they are different parts?


Interesting.   Anyone?

6/19/2013 3:57:47 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Why would both the front and rear sights have the same cage number? Wouldn't they be different as they are different parts?


Interesting.   Anyone?



Cage number applies to the company, Troy is 3EZ11

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_and_Government_Entity_code
6/19/2013 4:03:04 PM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Why would both the front and rear sights have the same cage number? Wouldn't they be different as they are different parts?


Interesting.   Anyone?



Cage number applies to the company, Troy is 3EZ11

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_and_Government_Entity_code


Thanks!
6/19/2013 4:04:38 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Why would both the front and rear sights have the same cage number? Wouldn't they be different as they are different parts?


Cage number should be the same.


But I question front and rear having the same LOT number.  Check  with Troy on this, it is an easily answered question and a red flag for me.
6/19/2013 4:12:44 PM EDT
[#35]
Good job OP. commit to buy something then ask a bunch of questions.  They look real.
6/19/2013 6:16:33 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
Good job OP. commit to buy something then ask a bunch of questions.  They look real.


Thanks for the great contribution to my thread.  Even though you are trolling me I will respond like a gentleman so maybe you will learn something.

I saw the Ad while I was surfing JRS from work.  Pictures are not visible on JRS so I asked the seller if the sights were real.  I took him for his word and committed on the deal.  When I later saw the pictures, questions were raised.

It will be simple.  Tomorrow morning I will confirm with TROY if the sights are real.  If they are, payment will go out within 24 hours of commitment as expected.  If not, the deal is null and void for the seller selling fake merchandise.

DISCLAIMER:  I don't believe the seller is trying to defraud me.  If the sights are not real, I don't think he knows.

We will find out tomorrow.  I was just hoping I could get confirmation one way or another with this thread.

Thanks again for your amazing insight.
6/19/2013 6:29:29 PM EDT
[#37]
In for the results
6/19/2013 6:33:00 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
The lettering dies are probably getting worn out.


They look laser engraved to me, not stamped
6/19/2013 6:58:27 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
I suspect the "crooked lettering" is an image artifact.

They do not look like the obvious fakes I have seen.

If you want to know for sure, ask Troy.
I suspect you are correct.

6/19/2013 7:04:21 PM EDT
[#40]
Real.  No question
6/19/2013 7:18:48 PM EDT
[#41]
IIRC, two of the most common indicators of fakes are a solid pin instead of a roll pin, and a rail-clamp screw that's threaded all the way.  These look legit.
6/20/2013 5:01:52 AM EDT
[#42]
UPDATE!

THEY ARE REAL CONFIRMED BY TROY INDUSTRIES
MANUFACTURED 1/2012
LOT NUMBER IS IDENTICAL BECAUSE MICRO SIGHTS ARE CREATED IN PAIRS
LASER ENGRAVING IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE INTENSITY OF THE LASER ENGRAVER VARIES
PAYMENT GOING OUT NOW

6/20/2013 5:06:55 AM EDT
[#43]
WHY ARE WE YELLING?
6/20/2013 5:07:43 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
WHY ARE WE YELLING?


I LOVE LAMP
6/20/2013 5:45:08 AM EDT
[#45]
Nothing to see here, move along.
6/20/2013 5:51:41 AM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
UPDATE!

THEY ARE REAL CONFIRMED BY TROY INDUSTRIES
MANUFACTURED 1/2012
LOT NUMBER IS IDENTICAL BECAUSE MICRO SIGHTS ARE CREATED IN PAIRS
LASER ENGRAVING IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE INTENSITY OF THE LASER ENGRAVER VARIES
PAYMENT GOING OUT NOW



Hello everybody -

I'm the person who sold the Troy BattleSights to BrowardMason.  I'm glad that he was able to verify with Troy Industries the authenticity of the item(s) I'm selling since I told him that I don't have the receipt or packaging anymore.  I bought these sights from a reputable local gun store where I live. I know its hard to buy things online nowadays unless you're buying it from an authorized seller or direct from the manufacturer.  I learned this the hard way myself... bought some Magpul XTM rail covers from another online forum only to find out that they are fake!

Well, I took some close-up photos for everyone's enjoyment  

Have a great day everyone and hopefully this has not affected my integrity as a seller on this awesome forum.  

Direct full resolution links:
http://i.imgur.com/kkUfZfv.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DVcwOvf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZbB5tDV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/wqeZXXo.jpg
6/20/2013 5:52:13 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
They look real to me


6/20/2013 5:55:11 AM EDT
[#48]
Buy once, cry once.
6/20/2013 5:59:41 AM EDT
[#49]
What's the big deal?  If they work and you can shoot accurately then its money well spent.

My Troy micro sights are identical to those pictured.  Direct from Troy and still have the Troy packaging.
6/20/2013 6:10:57 AM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Quoted:
UPDATE!

THEY ARE REAL CONFIRMED BY TROY INDUSTRIES
MANUFACTURED 1/2012
LOT NUMBER IS IDENTICAL BECAUSE MICRO SIGHTS ARE CREATED IN PAIRS
LASER ENGRAVING IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE INTENSITY OF THE LASER ENGRAVER VARIES
PAYMENT GOING OUT NOW



Hello everybody -

I'm the person who sold the Troy BattleSights to BrowardMason.  I'm glad that he was able to verify with Troy Industries the authenticity of the item(s) I'm selling since I told him that I don't have the receipt or packaging anymore.  I bought these sights from a reputable local gun store where I live. I know its hard to buy things online nowadays unless you're buying it from an authorized seller or direct from the manufacturer.  I learned this the hard way myself... bought some Magpul XTM rail covers from another online forum only to find out that they are fake!

Well, I took some close-up photos for everyone's enjoyment  

Have a great day everyone and hopefully this has not affected my integrity as a seller on this awesome forum.  

Direct full resolution links:
http://i.imgur.com/kkUfZfv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kkUfZfv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DVcwOvf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DVcwOvf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZbB5tDV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZbB5tDV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wqeZXXo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wqeZXXo.jpg


FTR Webviper has been a gentleman and extremely patient with this whole transaction.  Great communication and fast responses. He gave me a very good deal to boot.  Nothing but good things to say about him.
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