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8/17/2019 4:00:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CarbineDad:

Land a booster at the school
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Looks like NASA is trying to give away a Saturn I first stage, but I don't think it will fit in Gun's display area.  https://hackaday.com/2019/08/16/an-almost-free-apollo-era-rocket/

It does look like they also have some other stuff that they would give away to schools, though.  https://gsaxcess.gov/NASAWel.htm
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8/17/2019 4:24:02 PM EDT
[#2]


New project!

(Also just a thought but maybe offer previous t-shirts for sale as an additional revenue generator to this project t-shirt?)
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8/17/2019 5:21:15 PM EDT
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Two questions - how will the students be able to breathe in that area once you finish simulating the atmosphere?

Who's gonna clean up after the periodic dust storms?  
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8/17/2019 6:12:29 PM EDT
[#4]
in for another year
8/17/2019 6:36:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By hoosierhick:

It does look like they also have some other stuff that they would give away to schools, though.  https://gsaxcess.gov/NASAWel.htm
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That is really cool. You should contact them OP. Seems like you are exactly what this program was developed for.
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8/17/2019 7:18:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By drfroglegs:
That is really cool. You should contact them OP. Seems like you are exactly what this program was developed for.
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Originally Posted By hoosierhick:

It does look like they also have some other stuff that they would give away to schools, though.  https://gsaxcess.gov/NASAWel.htm
That is really cool. You should contact them OP. Seems like you are exactly what this program was developed for.
Good stuff to check on.  I think we messed with that website/maybe another? back when we did the shuttle project.  I think I tried to get a space suit to display.
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8/17/2019 9:43:30 PM EDT
[#7]
Another mural, easter-egg submission - moisture farm:



(land speeder optional)
At the end of the day, it's still a stupid cliché.
8/17/2019 9:47:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SilasB:
Another mural, easter-egg submission - moisture farm:

http://starwarsplaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Lars.jpg

(land speeder optional)
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I like that idea.  I'll bet we could work that in, maybe even a 3D version.  Just the shape aline would be enough for most to recognize it.  
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8/17/2019 9:48:25 PM EDT
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This world would be a better place to live if it weren't for people!
8/19/2019 4:27:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: brass][Edited] [#10]
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Good stuff to check on.  I think we messed with that website/maybe another? back when we did the shuttle project.  I think I tried to get a space suit to display.
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Originally Posted By drfroglegs:
Originally Posted By hoosierhick:

It does look like they also have some other stuff that they would give away to schools, though.  https://gsaxcess.gov/NASAWel.htm
That is really cool. You should contact them OP. Seems like you are exactly what this program was developed for.
Good stuff to check on.  I think we messed with that website/maybe another? back when we did the shuttle project.  I think I tried to get a space suit to display.
Try again, you've got some 'cred' now.  

If you have albums that are fast to flip through as "project portfolio" just with beginning, some place in middle, and finished photos for each project, maybe a dozen photos for each project, it might help requests.  i.e.  Going to a Good Place, not just waste filling some school's storeroom.

I agree with hitting up Musk/SpaceX, NASA, Case, John Deer, and makers of anything you're going to buy before purchasing, if you know of some things now, start writing a simple note with a sketch of your idea, what you'd like from them and see how it goes.  Worse that can happen is they say no, best that can happen is you save a lot of money or end up with something nicer than you thought you'd be doing.
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8/19/2019 7:41:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By brass:

Try again, you've got some 'cred' now.  

If you have albums that are fast to flip through as "project portfolio" just with beginning, some place in middle, and finished photos for each project, maybe a dozen photos for each project, it might help requests.  i.e.  Going to a Good Place, not just waste filling some school's storeroom.

I agree with hitting up Musk/SpaceX, NASA, Case, John Deer, and makers of anything you're going to buy before purchasing, if you know of some things now, start writing a simple note with a sketch of your idea, what you'd like from them and see how it goes.  Worse that can happen is they say no, best that can happen is you save a lot of money or end up with something nicer than you thought you'd be doing.
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Good plan.

Hopefully this week I get a little extra down time and I can get some of that lined out.    First official day back this morning.  

I had several discussions in the grocery store yesterday with teachers about the project, including the Robotics Guru.  We talked about them taking on Opportunity, 3D printing the parts for a model, and powering it on a track across the wall.

He was excited.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."--H.L. Mencken
8/19/2019 10:43:29 AM EDT
[#12]
I don't think there's another High School in the country that can draw from such a wide range of talent as Guns can!!! My art class was a bunch of us sitting around a table drawing a bowl of fruit etc...
I wish I had more to offer or was a whole lot closer 'cause I'd really like to see these projects up close.
Anyhoo... I'm in for the ride..
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8/19/2019 4:56:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Good plan.

Hopefully this week I get a little extra down time and I can get some of that lined out.    First official day back this morning.  

I had several discussions in the grocery store yesterday with teachers about the project, including the Robotics Guru.  We talked about them taking on Opportunity, 3D printing the parts for a model, and powering it on a track across the wall.

He was excited.
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Originally Posted By brass:

Try again, you've got some 'cred' now.  

If you have albums that are fast to flip through as "project portfolio" just with beginning, some place in middle, and finished photos for each project, maybe a dozen photos for each project, it might help requests.  i.e.  Going to a Good Place, not just waste filling some school's storeroom.

I agree with hitting up Musk/SpaceX, NASA, Case, John Deer, and makers of anything you're going to buy before purchasing, if you know of some things now, start writing a simple note with a sketch of your idea, what you'd like from them and see how it goes.  Worse that can happen is they say no, best that can happen is you save a lot of money or end up with something nicer than you thought you'd be doing.
Good plan.

Hopefully this week I get a little extra down time and I can get some of that lined out.    First official day back this morning.  

I had several discussions in the grocery store yesterday with teachers about the project, including the Robotics Guru.  We talked about them taking on Opportunity, 3D printing the parts for a model, and powering it on a track across the wall.

He was excited.
Good to know robotics is on it before Christmas.
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8/20/2019 9:46:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762][Edited] [#14]


Arfcom's generosity is simply incredible.    Unreal.

I'm not sure he wants the recognition, but this Arfcommer has funded a majority of the cost of the projects for the last 3yrs.    Nice Uncle to have a round.  

Thank you!

Just floored this morning.  

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8/20/2019 1:45:38 PM EDT
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8/20/2019 1:56:42 PM EDT
[#16]
Didn't read every page...

Did anyone mention the Aldrin Cycler?

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If not, you might look into it to see if you're interested in working it in.
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8/20/2019 2:49:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:


Arfcom's generosity is simply incredible.    Unreal.

I'm not sure he wants the recognition, but this Arfcommer has funded a majority of the cost of the projects for the last 3yrs.    Nice Uncle to have a round.  

Thank you!

Just floored this morning.  

https://i.imgur.com/iocbBO0.jpg
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This is the old Arfcom I remember.
8/20/2019 4:52:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: guns762][Edited] [#18]
Graphics says they are in for designing new Mission Patches.

edited to add;

Just noticed we went through 25lbs of glue sticks last year.  

I've got enough to start us off, but ordered another 25lbs.  
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8/20/2019 6:15:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:  Graphics says they are in for designing new Mission Patches.

edited to add;

Just noticed we went through 25lbs of glue sticks last year.  

I've got enough to start us off, but ordered another 25lbs.  
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Might just try giving your future Marines crayons, they're cheaper.
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8/20/2019 6:18:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:


Arfcom's generosity is simply incredible.    Unreal.

I'm not sure he wants the recognition, but this Arfcommer has funded a majority of the cost of the projects for the last 3yrs.    Nice Uncle to have a round.  

Thank you!

Just floored this morning.  

https://i.imgur.com/iocbBO0.jpg
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WOW! Cheers to whoever sent that to him. Truly above and beyond.

As someone else said, this is the Arf I know.
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8/20/2019 6:19:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:
Might just try giving your future Marines crayons, they're cheaper.
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Originally Posted By guns762:  Graphics says they are in for designing new Mission Patches.

edited to add;

Just noticed we went through 25lbs of glue sticks last year.  

I've got enough to start us off, but ordered another 25lbs.  
Might just try giving your future Marines crayons, they're cheaper.
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8/20/2019 7:08:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bloatingfloater:
Didn't read every page...

Did anyone mention the Aldrin Cycler?

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/115083/3cnFO3d_png-1061147.JPG

If not, you might look into it to see if you're interested in working it in.
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Not mentioned yet, but cool idea.  I'll definitely show the kids the idea.
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8/20/2019 7:11:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By backbencher:

Might just try giving your future Marines crayons, they're cheaper.
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I could have sworn we had about a 1/4 of a box left over the summer, cause I grabbed one , but checked today and it was all empty except the 4" baged 1 lb bunches I bought at the end of the year.

Probably why I bought them
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8/20/2019 7:14:42 PM EDT
[#24]
Super tag. I am excited as this will be my first time watching this type of thread.
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8/20/2019 7:21:11 PM EDT
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I found a very cool looking futuristic tractor design on grabcad.com today.  "2025 cultivator" or something like that.  Ill see if I can post a photo of it tomorrow.  I'm going to try to see if the files posted there will be enough for our CAD students to work with the rendering and slice it up.

We might still throw a cab on it, and paint it green......  It would make a fun model to build.

ETA: here it is.

https://grabcad.com/library/cultivator-tractor-concept-1

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8/20/2019 7:23:29 PM EDT
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8/20/2019 7:35:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:
I found a very cool looking futuristic tractor design on grabcad.com today.  "2025 cultivator" or something like that.  Ill see if I can post a photo of it tomorrow.  I'm going to try to see if the files posted there will be enough for our CAD students to work with the rendering and slice it up.

We might still throw a cab on it, and paint it green......  It would make a fun model to build.

ETA: here it is.

https://grabcad.com/library/cultivator-tractor-concept-1

https://i.imgur.com/MPjqazT.png
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The remote turrets with the plasma cannons are missing, but still looks cool.
At the end of the day, it's still a stupid cliché.
8/20/2019 7:58:33 PM EDT
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The remote turrets with the plasma cannons are missing, but still looks cool.
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I'm hoping the students who've always wanted to build a "tank" look to this project as an outlet.  
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8/20/2019 8:26:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:
What ever tractor we do, we need to have something about 7 1/2 ft long x 4 1/2 ft wide in size.   Not sure what scale that will end up to be, but that would fit the space best.

Our Falcon Heavy should be somewhere about 14' tall with about 2-3 feet of flame under it.
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A fun project to help get the proportions correct on the Falcon:

AXM Paper Models Falcon Heavy

If not perfect, these models are a good start. As an added plus, they’re cheaper than the alternatives.
8/20/2019 8:30:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:


Arfcom's generosity is simply incredible.    Unreal.

I'm not sure he wants the recognition, but this Arfcommer has funded a majority of the cost of the projects for the last 3yrs.    Nice Uncle to have a round.  

Thank you!

Just floored this morning.  

https://i.imgur.com/iocbBO0.jpg
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That is going to be politely waved under the new principal's nose, right?  
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8/20/2019 8:33:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Yup, excellent idea.

Thanks JoseCuervo for pointing that out!
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Originally Posted By JoseCuervo:

The panorama landscape pic is actually the Columbia Hills Complex in memory of the lost astronauts. It would be a nice background for your display.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Columbia_Hills_from_MER-A_landing_site_PIA05200_br2.jpg/1280px-Columbia_Hills_from_MER-A_landing_site_PIA05200_br2.jpg

There's your space shuttle tie-in.
Yup, excellent idea.

Thanks JoseCuervo for pointing that out!
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8/20/2019 8:53:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:

Good plan.

Hopefully this week I get a little extra down time and I can get some of that lined out.    First official day back this morning.  

I had several discussions in the grocery store yesterday with teachers about the project, including the Robotics Guru.  We talked about them taking on Opportunity, 3D printing the parts for a model, and powering it on a track across the wall.

He was excited.
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Awesome!
8/20/2019 8:55:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:


Arfcom's generosity is simply incredible.    Unreal.

I'm not sure he wants the recognition, but this Arfcommer has funded a majority of the cost of the projects for the last 3yrs.    Nice Uncle to have a round.  

Thank you!

Just floored this morning.  

https://i.imgur.com/iocbBO0.jpg
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Great job Arfcommers
8/20/2019 8:57:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CarbineDad:
That is going to be politely waved under the new principal's nose, right?  
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Originally Posted By guns762:


Arfcom's generosity is simply incredible.    Unreal.

I'm not sure he wants the recognition, but this Arfcommer has funded a majority of the cost of the projects for the last 3yrs.    Nice Uncle to have a round.  

Thank you!

Just floored this morning.  

https://i.imgur.com/iocbBO0.jpg
That is going to be politely waved under the new principal's nose, right?  
First thing I did this morning at 7:05am.

He's the former VP, so he's seen these projects for a while, just not all the details.  
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8/20/2019 9:02:16 PM EDT
[#35]
customize these tshirts

https://shop.spacex.com/featured-products/nuke-mars-t-shirt.html



8/21/2019 7:19:16 AM EDT
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customize these tshirts

https://shop.spacex.com/featured-products/nuke-mars-t-shirt.html

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECJj9f6UYAETkce?format=jpg&name=360x360

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8/21/2019 10:42:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By thirsty:

A fun project to help get the proportions correct on the Falcon:

AXM Paper Models Falcon Heavy

If not perfect, these models are a good start. As an added plus, they’re cheaper than the alternatives.
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Thank you for this!   That will be a valuable reference.
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8/21/2019 3:42:38 PM EDT
[#38]
This Reaction Could Let Us Live on Mars


She keeps saying to bring Hydrogen from Earth... But you could get it from the Water Ice that's on Mars already...
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8/21/2019 4:19:04 PM EDT
[#39]
So in.

Cant wait!
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8/21/2019 8:31:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Master_of_Orion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOfGEDGdCxs

She keeps saying to bring Hydrogen from Earth... But you could get it from the Water Ice that's on Mars already...
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So, we also need an ice mining operation depicted too?.......mining.....hmmmm, drilling....both WY oriented too.
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8/21/2019 11:08:02 PM EDT
[#41]
in!  Just don't leave me on Mars.
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8/21/2019 11:36:25 PM EDT
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8/22/2019 11:02:34 AM EDT
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So, we need this to be a Super Heavy/Starship?

My only worry, is finding a big enough piece of pipe to do the model.   This needs to be pretty sturdy, as it's around the pillar in the hallway.  It can't be made out of paper like our other builds.

The smaller Falcon Heavy would be easier to make with smaller diameter pipes.

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."--H.L. Mencken
8/22/2019 11:15:06 AM EDT
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I just met  the CC County high school principal I showed him this post he was impressed.
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8/22/2019 11:24:50 AM EDT
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I just met  the CC County high school principal I showed him this post he was impressed.
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8/22/2019 11:32:48 AM EDT
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So, we need this to be a Super Heavy/Starship?

My only worry, is finding a big enough piece of pipe to do the model.   This needs to be pretty sturdy, as it's around the pillar in the hallway.  It can't be made out of paper like our other builds.

The smaller Falcon Heavy would be easier to make with smaller diameter pipes.

https://i.imgur.com/K3f54KC.jpg
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Concrete molding tube?  Made of cardboard.  They aren't expensive.
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8/22/2019 11:39:47 AM EDT
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Ok, so I did a little scaled sketch of what a Super Heavy Starship might look like in the space.    This is assuming we can find a 12" diameter irrigation pipe to play with.   I don't think that's too out of our reach.   I need to make a couple calls.

My one worry is we will end up similar to the Washington Monument type problem, when the rocket hits the ceiling.

If we offset the pipe around the pillar, we can fix a bit of that.  The suggestion of using the pillar as the launch tower is a good one, but I'm a little worried about how much detai  that will take that will be out there easily bumped into at about 4' up.





updated with better scale on where the decorative ledge is.
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8/22/2019 12:12:53 PM EDT
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Forgive me here, but is this more realistic for a mission to Mars?  I know nothing about this.

Would the Super Heavy need boosters?

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats."--H.L. Mencken
8/22/2019 12:19:15 PM EDT
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Concrete molding tube?  Made of cardboard.  They aren't expensive.
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Originally Posted By guns762:
So, we need this to be a Super Heavy/Starship?

My only worry, is finding a big enough piece of pipe to do the model.   This needs to be pretty sturdy, as it's around the pillar in the hallway.  It can't be made out of paper like our other builds.

The smaller Falcon Heavy would be easier to make with smaller diameter pipes.

https://i.imgur.com/K3f54KC.jpg
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Concrete molding tube?  Made of cardboard.  They aren't expensive.
Might work.

If we have to do the boosters too, then I guess wed be back to being able to use much smaller diameter pipe.

Just would limit its length.  Not quite as big and cool.
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8/22/2019 12:20:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By guns762:
Forgive me here, but is this more realistic for a mission to Mars?  I know nothing about this.

Would the Super Heavy need boosters?

https://i.imgur.com/SatjzCr.jpg
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no Super heavy won't need side boosters.

Since it will be more reusable than Falcon 9... each launch will be way cheaper... so
They will refuel Star Ship (the upper portion) in orbit of Earth by launching fuel tanker versions.  Then Star Ship will head to Mars.

This is still the plan as far as I know.
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