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11/9/2009 9:58:18 PM EDT
McAfree is about to expire on my Dell, and the wife's new laptop only has Norton for 30 days.

Is Microsoft Security Essentials good enough to replace these products? Ready for prime time?
11/9/2009 10:10:03 PM EDT
[#1]
I am running it on one of my Windows 7 boxes and so far, so good.
11/9/2009 10:14:08 PM EDT
[#2]
Avira FTW
11/9/2009 10:14:16 PM EDT
[#3]
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I am running it on one of my Windows 7 boxes and so far, so good.


But do you know that it's actually working?

That's always the question: it may be missing trojans, root kits, and the latest virus, and we would never know it.

But I guess that's true of any anti-virus software.
11/9/2009 10:19:00 PM EDT
[#4]
MSE phones home, but you can disable it via registry edits.
11/9/2009 10:26:40 PM EDT
[#5]
MSE is good stuff. It's kept my kid's xp install malware free in the face of multiple attacks.

don't disable the phoning home; that's how the mothership picks up emergent malware trends.
11/9/2009 11:02:17 PM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:

Is Microsoft Security Essentials good enough to replace these products? Ready for prime time?


Sure. If you believe in the same idea that the Police should investigate every allegation of wrongdoing, and Congress should discipline themselves when it comes to their misbehavior.



Getting your computer security from a software company that has a long history of not giving a shit about it just doesn't seem so logical.



 
11/9/2009 11:20:12 PM EDT
[#7]
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MSE phones home, but you can disable it via registry edits.


Why would I care if it phones home?  
11/9/2009 11:21:49 PM EDT
[#8]
I use MSE, and I replaced a product that cost money with it.

So far it seems to work great, and every once in a while I run malwarebytes and it doesn't catch anything either, so either MSE is keeping the bad guys out or they are clever enough to escape both MSE's and Malwarebytes attention.
11/10/2009 12:20:47 AM EDT
[#9]
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MSE phones home, but you can disable it via registry edits.


Why would I care if it phones home?  

Some people appreciate the ability to opt out of data gathering.
11/10/2009 12:47:36 AM EDT
[#10]
I use Avast! It's free and works well.
11/10/2009 12:52:05 AM EDT
[#11]



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I use Avast! It's free and works well.


This x100.



 
11/10/2009 5:24:56 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:

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Is Microsoft Security Essentials good enough to replace these products? Ready for prime time?

Sure. If you believe in the same idea that the Police should investigate every allegation of wrongdoing, and Congress should discipline themselves when it comes to their misbehavior.

Getting your computer security from a software company that has a long history of not giving a shit about it just doesn't seem so logical.
 


That may be true WRT the OS group at MS 10 years ago, but the applications group is a different animal. That's their bread and butter. It would be illogical to assume they don't give a shit.
11/10/2009 5:31:27 PM EDT
[#13]
I have noticed that MSE runs a .exe called MSMPEnG, that fucker makes my machine hang for up to a minute at random times...this is due to scanning in the background apparently...My machine aint whiz bang no more...but is running a Quad core extreme and 4 gig of mem in XP...Would severly piss me off...mouse would be movable...just nothign else...I even did a fresh install to be sure I wasnt infected...installed MSE and the hang came back...
11/10/2009 5:35:42 PM EDT
[#14]
Yes, it's good.  Supposed to be really lightweight...

http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7204

(Wouldn't hurt to run multiple, e.g., Avast, for defense in depth.  That way, perhaps, one might catch what the other lets slip by.)
11/10/2009 5:45:23 PM EDT
[#15]
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Yes, it's good.  Supposed to be really lightweight...

http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=7204

(Wouldn't hurt to run multiple, e.g., Avast, for defense in depth.  That way, perhaps, one might catch what the other lets slip by.)


A really really really bad idea. Do not run multiple anti-virus programs they will interfere with each other.

MSE is light and is without doubt the best of the free anti-virus programs.

I am trying to find the link but as of yet cannot but a security firm released testing of about eight of the major free and pay anti-virus programs and MSE was one of only three they listed as good.
11/10/2009 5:45:42 PM EDT
[#16]
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I use Avast! It's free and works well.

This x100.
 


I ran Avast. This past weekend I got a bunch of adware/malware/whatever they call it ware on my computer. Avast didn't stop it. I ran Malwarebytes that cleaned things up. I was lucky I think Oh and thanks again to the ARFCOMER that suggested the fix I used
11/10/2009 5:49:44 PM EDT
[#17]
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I use Avast! It's free and works well.


I used Avast for two years it is not as good as MSE both are free..
11/10/2009 6:09:12 PM EDT
[#18]





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I use Avast! It's free and works well.



This x100.


 






I ran Avast. This past weekend I got a bunch of adware/malware/whatever they call it ware on my computer. Avast didn't stop it. I ran Malwarebytes that cleaned things up. I was lucky I think Oh and thanks again to the ARFCOMER that suggested the fix I used




Avast! isn't meant to detect spyware/adware. On my Windows partition I run layered security, Avast! + Malwarebytes + Spybot etc.
 
11/10/2009 6:10:32 PM EDT
[#19]
that's weird because McAfee on my Dell expires next month also and I download MSE last week and it's great! It doesn't have the Firefox or IE add-ons though.
11/10/2009 6:19:11 PM EDT
[#20]
There was a thread in the Urban Commandoes board on it.  After reading that I ran MSE and it has kept everything off of my machine in spite of my wife cruising Facebook, which resulted in a trojan that led to me loading MSE.
11/10/2009 6:21:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Yep, works just fine.


11/10/2009 6:22:25 PM EDT
[#22]
Good to go!
11/10/2009 6:23:02 PM EDT
[#23]
Found it... of 16 AV programs tested MSE was one of only three rated good at finding and removing viruses/malware.

http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/10/av-comparatives-picks-six-malware-removal-winners.ars

11/10/2009 11:05:52 PM EDT
[#24]
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Found it... of 16 AV programs tested MSE was one of only three rated good at finding and removing viruses/malware.

http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2009/10/av-comparatives-picks-six-malware-removal-winners.ars

http://static.arstechnica.com/av-comparatives_1009_results.png


Cool, thanks. That settles it for me.
11/10/2009 11:35:25 PM EDT
[#25]
Why would you trust the people that created the problem in the first place?z
11/11/2009 12:12:19 AM EDT
[#26]
MSE has a smaller footprint and works. win/win
11/11/2009 3:55:13 AM EDT
[#27]
Is MSE the same as Windows Live Care?  If it is, I love Windows Live Care.  It catches everything and it doesn't seem to bind up my computer like Norton used to.

Update:  I just researched it and see that Microsoft discontinued One Care and will make MSE available for free.  I will use One Care until the subscription runs out.  

That is too bad, One care has been awesome.

Patrick
11/11/2009 3:57:56 AM EDT
[#28]
I haven't run an antivirus suite for the past seven years and have had no viruses. I had one malware infection when my wife clicked yes one too many times on a popup, but that's it.



It's all about your browsing habits and getting rid of P2P software. Though I still occasionally download torrents.
11/11/2009 4:16:28 AM EDT
[#29]
Guys, listen to Max_Mike.  There was a long discussion on MSE in the URBAN COMMANDOS subforum.  He nails it every time.
11/11/2009 4:28:57 AM EDT
[#30]
AVG Free and Malwarebytes
11/11/2009 4:44:34 AM EDT
[#31]
I dumped Avast on my Windows VMs for MSE.
11/11/2009 4:48:10 AM EDT
[#32]
MSE is waht i run on my personal machines, and we also use it as one of our scanning tools at work.

i love it.
11/11/2009 4:54:18 AM EDT
[#33]
I asked if MSE does real-time scanning of incoming emails in another MSE thread on ARF and the answer was 'no it does not'.



Just be aware that MSE does not do real-time scanning of incoming POP3 or IMAP emails.



If you use Outlook at home like I do to collect email you DO want your incoming email to be scanned as it's downloaded for the best protection.




So I'll stick with my McAfee Enterprise for now.