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Maybe trying to figure out 00 ??? That's a hard one. Really, trust me, it's one. |
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Wow, an interesting idea for a new forum! "Asimov on Numbers" is a great book to learn about math and numbers. It may be hard to find now, but try and track one down. Quoted:
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Maybe trying to figure out 00 ??? That's a hard one. Really, trust me, it's one. 02 = 0. Lim x approaches 0 of xx = ????? x0 = 1. For any x. Always. |
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Maybe trying to figure out 00 ??? That's a hard one. Really, trust me, it's one. 02 = 0. Lim x approaches 0 of xx = ????? x0 = 1. For any x. Always. Yep, by definition. |
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Ptolemy (a dead Greek guy) said that math was the only discipline that was seen both in the lower imperfect physical world AND in the upper perfect realm of abstract ideals. Because of this, studying mathematics was good for the human soul because it lifted the mind up from the natural world to the divine realm, and was the only study capable of doing such. Anyone who desired to learn higher things must start by mastering mathematics. <–– HS math teacher |
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Ptolemy (a dead Greek guy) said that math was the only discipline that was seen both in the lower imperfect physical world AND in the upper perfect realm of abstract ideals. Because of this, studying mathematics was good for the human soul because it lifted the mind up from the natural world to the divine realm, and was the only study capable of doing such. Anyone who desired to learn higher things must start by mastering mathematics. <–– HS math teacher The problem is that mathematicians believe math is about problem solving. It's not. It's not even close to problem solving. It is rule application and memorization. It is not 'solve for X' it is more accurately, 'apply the memorized rules that determine X'. Don't get me start on English teachers, either. <––former HS Computer Science teacher. TRG |
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Quoted: Ptolemy (a dead Greek guy) said that math was the only discipline that was seen both in the lower imperfect physical world AND in the upper perfect realm of abstract ideals. Because of this, studying mathematics was good for the human soul because it lifted the mind up from the natural world to the divine realm, and was the only study capable of doing such. Anyone who desired to learn higher things must start by mastering mathematics. <–– HS math teacher That's a great way to put it. I've always thought, if people can find god, it'll be through math. 
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Ptolemy (a dead Greek guy) said that math was the only discipline that was seen both in the lower imperfect physical world AND in the upper perfect realm of abstract ideals. Because of this, studying mathematics was good for the human soul because it lifted the mind up from the natural world to the divine realm, and was the only study capable of doing such. Anyone who desired to learn higher things must start by mastering mathematics. <–– HS math teacher That's a great way to put it. I've always thought, if people can find god, it'll be through math. There's no proof of that. TRG |
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Ptolemy (a dead Greek guy) said that math was the only discipline that was seen both in the lower imperfect physical world AND in the upper perfect realm of abstract ideals. Because of this, studying mathematics was good for the human soul because it lifted the mind up from the natural world to the divine realm, and was the only study capable of doing such. Anyone who desired to learn higher things must start by mastering mathematics. <–– HS math teacher The problem is that mathematicians believe math is about problem solving. It's not. It's not even close to problem solving. It is rule application and memorization. It is not 'solve for X' it is more accurately, 'apply the memorized rules that determine X'. Don't get me start on English teachers, either. <––former HS Computer Science teacher. TRG You mean math *teachers*, not mathematicians, right? Math is absolutely *NOT* "application and memorization". It's *far* more than that. |
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This forum should be more accurately labelled, "Pimples, pocket protectors and virginity." TRG Tell that to the apes on my little line crew when they figured out how much guy cable to rig (with minimal waste, yet long enough) before we set a 65' power pole. |
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Ptolemy (a dead Greek guy) said that math was the only discipline that was seen both in the lower imperfect physical world AND in the upper perfect realm of abstract ideals. Because of this, studying mathematics was good for the human soul because it lifted the mind up from the natural world to the divine realm, and was the only study capable of doing such. Anyone who desired to learn higher things must start by mastering mathematics. <–– HS math teacher The problem is that mathematicians believe math is about problem solving. It's not. It's not even close to problem solving. It is rule application and memorization. It is not 'solve for X' it is more accurately, 'apply the memorized rules that determine X'. Don't get me start on English teachers, either. <––former HS Computer Science teacher. TRG You mean math *teachers*, not mathematicians, right? Math is absolutely *NOT* "application and memorization". It's *far* more than that. By definition math is rule application. Don't shoot the messenger here. TRG |
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Ptolemy (a dead Greek guy) said that math was the only discipline that was seen both in the lower imperfect physical world AND in the upper perfect realm of abstract ideals. Because of this, studying mathematics was good for the human soul because it lifted the mind up from the natural world to the divine realm, and was the only study capable of doing such. Anyone who desired to learn higher things must start by mastering mathematics. <–– HS math teacher The problem is that mathematicians believe math is about problem solving. It's not. It's not even close to problem solving. It is rule application and memorization. It is not 'solve for X' it is more accurately, 'apply the memorized rules that determine X'. Don't get me start on English teachers, either. <––former HS Computer Science teacher. TRG You mean math *teachers*, not mathematicians, right? Math is absolutely *NOT* "application and memorization". It's *far* more than that. By definition math is rule application. Don't shoot the messenger here. TRG What definition? ETA: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_164/1208048_What_is_Math_.html |
Must have been too much partying and not enough studying.
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click me ––->  {The temperature of Heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is Isaiah 30:26, "Moreover, the light of the Moon shall be as the light of the Sun and the light of the Sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days." Thus Heaven receives from the Moon as much radiation as we do from the Sun, and in addition 7*7 (49) times as much as the Earth does from the Sun, or 50 times in all. The light we receive from the Moon is one 1/10,000 of the light we receive from the Sun, so we can ignore that.... The radiation falling on Heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation, i.e., Heaven loses 50 times as much heat as the Earth by radiation. Using the Stefan-Boltzmann law for radiation, (H/E) temperature of the earth (-300K), gives H as 798K (525C). The exact temperature of Hell cannot be computed.... [However] Revelations 21:8 says "But the fearful, and unbelieving...shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." A lake of molten brimstone means that its temperature must be at or below the boiling point, 444.6C. We have, then, that Heaven, at 525C is hotter than Hell at 445C. ~From Applied Optics, vol. 11, A14, 1972" TRG |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Wow, an interesting idea for a new forum! "Asimov on Numbers" is a great book to learn about math and numbers. It may be hard to find now, but try and track one down. Quoted: Quoted: Maybe trying to figure out 00 ??? That's a hard one. Really, trust me, it's one. 02 = 0. Lim x approaches 0 of xx = ????? x0 = 1. For any x. Always. Really? Isn't 0 to any power = 0? 01=0 0-1=0 So 0x=0 for all x except 0? |
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Wow, an interesting idea for a new forum! "Asimov on Numbers" is a great book to learn about math and numbers. It may be hard to find now, but try and track one down. Quoted:
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Maybe trying to figure out 00 ??? That's a hard one. Really, trust me, it's one. 02 = 0. Lim x approaches 0 of xx = ????? x0 = 1. For any x. Always. Really? Isn't 0 to any power = 0? 01=0 0-1=0 So 0x=0 for all x except 0? What if it is Zero Degrees Fahrenheit that he was notating? TRG |
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Wow, an interesting idea for a new forum! "Asimov on Numbers" is a great book to learn about math and numbers. It may be hard to find now, but try and track one down. Quoted:
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Maybe trying to figure out 00 ??? That's a hard one. Really, trust me, it's one. 02 = 0. Lim x approaches 0 of xx = ????? x0 = 1. For any x. Always. Really? Isn't 0 to any power = 0? 01=0 0-1=0 So 0x=0 for all x except 0? 0 raised to the 0 power is indeterminate. It's not a number. |
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Wow, an interesting idea for a new forum! "Asimov on Numbers" is a great book to learn about math and numbers. It may be hard to find now, but try and track one down. Quoted:
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Maybe trying to figure out 00 ??? That's a hard one. Really, trust me, it's one. 02 = 0. Lim x approaches 0 of xx = ????? x0 = 1. For any x. Always. Really? Isn't 0 to any power = 0? 01=0 0-1=0 So 0x=0 for all x except 0? 0 raised to the 0 power is indeterminate. It's not a number. http://www.askamathematician.com/?p=4524 194 Responses to Q: What does 0^0 (zero raised to the zeroth power) equal? Why do mathematicians and high school teachers disagree? ← Older Comments Alexandra G. says: May 19, 2011 at 10:54 pm My physics teacher says it’s infinity…. The Physicist says: May 19, 2011 at 11:22 pm Physicists say a lot of things. Can’t be trusted. 
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Ptolemy (a dead Greek guy) said that math was the only discipline that was seen both in the lower imperfect physical world AND in the upper perfect realm of abstract ideals. Because of this, studying mathematics was good for the human soul because it lifted the mind up from the natural world to the divine realm, and was the only study capable of doing such. Anyone who desired to learn higher things must start by mastering mathematics. <–– HS math teacher The problem is that mathematicians believe math is about problem solving. It's not. It's not even close to problem solving. It is rule application and memorization. It is not 'solve for X' it is more accurately, 'apply the memorized rules that determine X'. Don't get me start on English teachers, either. <––former HS Computer Science teacher. TRG You mean math *teachers*, not mathematicians, right? Math is absolutely *NOT* "application and memorization". It's *far* more than that. By definition math is rule application. Don't shoot the messenger here. TRG Calc and Diff Eq are just the beginning. Compare learning these mathematical topics to learning the alphabet. Calculus, like the alphabet, is pretty rock solid. No changes coming any time soon. But knowing only the alphabet, you're still a long way off from writing a masterpiece. A masterpiece is a very abstract concept, much like high-level mathematics. THAT is where the true understanding of WHAT mathematics is comes in. It's not just rule application, there's FAR more than that. Calling mathematics, "rule application," is like calling War and Peace a long string of words that follow grammatical rules. The big picture is missing. |