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7/17/2020 4:57:57 PM EDT
Saw one/got to shoot one at the range.  Was a hoot for sure.  Now I think I need one.  I've kinda wanted a .308 CETME clone of some sort for a while, but never got into one.  Now I see this thing that shoots .223/5.56 and takes standard AR mags and I think I need it.  They good,  quality-wise?
7/17/2020 5:33:43 PM EDT
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I have only shot mine once but it was a pleasure to shoot.  I have a first gen gun.   Got it from Marcolmar but at a good price.  Knowing magwell was tight.    If you get one get the 2nd generation.  I forgot what the cut off on the serial number is but if you buy from Marcolmar that is all they have.  They opened up the magwell just a bit as the first gens  was tight and kept alot of mags from locking in or they would get stuck and you would have to force them out.   I went through my stash of GI mags and marked all the ones that fit it correctly.
Look very well made and very solid.  Mine is more of a range toy but glad I have one.
7/17/2020 5:37:46 PM EDT
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Thank you for the input.  I'm looking on Atlantic Firearms, they've got the FDE with rail for 1,199.  Might be one of those things that I should've wanted a few months ago instead of now, but it is what it is
7/17/2020 6:01:19 PM EDT
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I’ve got the one with a collapsible stock and one with the factory optical sight. They are very soft shooters. Well made. Here’s the para model with an FNC and a HAC7 for comparison.

7/17/2020 8:56:44 PM EDT
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I’ve got the one with a collapsible stock and one with the factory optical sight. They are very soft shooters. Well made. Here’s the para model with an FNC and a HAC7 for comparison.

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Right on!  Very nice
7/17/2020 8:58:30 PM EDT
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I don't have a marcolmar but I have a home brew I built.

Its a unique gun. Softest shooting 5.56mm I've fired.

Its a fun gun for something different but takes ar mags and is 556
7/17/2020 9:01:16 PM EDT
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AIM has them in grey, black, and green for $1,395. I've always wanted a CETME for some reason.

https://aimsurplus.com/new-search/?q=CETME&g=&category=null&filter=&sort_by=best&page=1&mode=search
7/17/2020 9:06:00 PM EDT
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Thank you for the input.  I'm looking on Atlantic Firearms, they've got the FDE with rail for 1,199.  Might be one of those things that I should've wanted a few months ago instead of now, but it is what it is
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I believe that's been about the going price, maybe even a couple hundred better than usual for a railed model.  Hill And Mac used to sell their's cheaper, but my impression is that the Malcomars are getting better reviews.  I don't think you've missed the bus.
7/17/2020 9:15:29 PM EDT
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I believe that's been about the going price, maybe even a couple hundred better than usual for a railed model.  Hill And Mac used to sell their's cheaper, but my impression is that the Malcomars are getting better reviews.  I don't think you've missed the bus.
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Thank you for the input.  I'm looking on Atlantic Firearms, they've got the FDE with rail for 1,199.  Might be one of those things that I should've wanted a few months ago instead of now, but it is what it is
I believe that's been about the going price, maybe even a couple hundred better than usual for a railed model.  Hill And Mac used to sell their's cheaper, but my impression is that the Malcomars are getting better reviews.  I don't think you've missed the bus.



Ya that is a great price unless you just don’t want FDE.
7/17/2020 9:43:02 PM EDT
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Somebody posted a pretty in-depth thread in GD fairly recently Very good read.

My son has two and he really likes them.
7/17/2020 9:44:31 PM EDT
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I'm probably going to regret not buying one of these while they are available.
7/17/2020 10:01:53 PM EDT
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Hill & Mac or Marcolmar? Which is the one to get?
7/17/2020 10:04:24 PM EDT
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I’ve got the one with a collapsible stock and one with the factory optical sight. They are very soft shooters. Well made. Here’s the para model with an FNC and a HAC7 for comparison.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/54333/6369589C-E7C6-48F4-91AF-F08F4C08871D-1372672.jpg
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FNC and a Holloway - wow, I don't think I have seen both in the same picture before !  Lucky, the Holloway is rarer than hens teeth.
7/18/2020 10:26:06 AM EDT
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Same boat
7/18/2020 10:48:48 AM EDT
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For those who own one, are you having reliability issues?

I've seen a lot of YT videos where people are having malfunctions, usually FTE's and double feeds.
7/18/2020 11:01:15 AM EDT
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No I think that is still about what they have been going for anyway.
7/18/2020 11:43:33 AM EDT
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I have the Marcomar L and LC. I got the L with a rail and put on a red dot (painted it to try to match the gun). I really like the LC with the collapsing stock. Comes with a pinned barrel extension that if you want to SBR it can be removed. The barrel with the FH'er would then only stick out about as far as the first set of barrel rings on it.

Fun guns to collect and they use AR mags...I use Okay industries mags as MCM recommends.

Oh and BTW, the hang guard on the LC was an optional one I bought from MCM, super rare early type. They found a small number of those in a Spanish military warehouse that were brand new, so I grabbed one of those too.

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7/18/2020 11:52:50 AM EDT
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So far as I know the only issues were with some of the first run in which the mag sometimes sat too low. MCM says if you have one they will update it. All the ones they are selling now have the update.

In case some may not know do not confuse the MCM rebuilt L series with the Spanish originals which were known to have issues. These issues were from poorly made springs and mags, all of which have been corrected now by MCM. If you did have an issue MCM is top notch to deal with and its owner will take good care of you and fix it.

I'm thinking seriously about getting an LV model to go with my LC and L now as well.
7/18/2020 2:10:37 PM EDT
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Quoted:  I’ve got the one with a collapsible stock and one with the factory optical sight. They are very soft shooters. Well made. Here’s the para model with an FNC and a HAC7 for comparison.

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HAC7?  Could you comment on this thread?

https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/-308-AR-magazine-compatibility/121-669426/
7/18/2020 2:24:16 PM EDT
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I should really go shoot mine...
7/18/2020 5:27:12 PM EDT
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Don’t see the HAC7 listed there but mine only works with original AR10 waffle mags that have been modified a little for the mag catch. Lucked into a pair of mags on Gunbroker, one was modified and the other was not. I didn’t mod the second one in case I want an original some day. Having two good mags for a rifle that’s rarely fired is fine.
7/20/2020 10:17:21 AM EDT
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Well, I put one of the FDE with rail on layaway at Atlantic Firearms over the weekend.  $1,199 seems like a pretty fair deal, especially considering the potentially cloudy future of such firearms
7/20/2020 10:27:41 AM EDT
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Love mine, gonna pick up a 2nd soon.
7/20/2020 1:25:23 PM EDT
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Thanks much.  Updated the OP & referenced your post.

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