Posted: 4/7/2024 9:53:00 PM EDT
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Stanton Friedman did a ton of research on these and firmly believed that a few of them were real. Specifically, he was convinced the Eisenhower briefing document from 1952, the Truman Forrestal memo from 1947, and the Cutler-Twining memo of 1954 were all legitimate. The Cutler-Twining memo is particularly interesting as it was pulled from the National Archives. It's a legit document to be sure. The Black Vault updated their page on Stanton Friedman and Majestic just a few months ago. That link is below. https://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/update-on-operation-majestic-12-documents/ The Majestic docs can be found here. Scroll to bottom and there are links to them. https://majesticdocuments.com/documents/ I find them fascinating. If real, among other things it sheds new light on why the government was out to take away Oppenheimer's security clearance. I mean, the bomb had already been created and the Soviets had theirs as well. Removing his clearance after the fact was just odd...., unless what they wanted him removed from was the ongoing investigation into UFO's. It was a far bigger secret than the A bomb, which had already been revealed. |
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Quoted: Thanks for the links! I'll try and take a look at them when I get a minute. The link to the black vault article is really good. It's a very long and detailed analysis by Stanton Friedman as to the authentication of the three documents he believes are genuine. He also exposes the supposed MJ-12 documents he firmly believes are fakes and explains his reasoning on those as well. I suggest reviewing the black vault article and if you agree with Friedman's analysis, take a look at the three docs he references. They are all short reads |
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Friedman had a tendency to believe anything that supported his opinion, ignoring any issues that might pop up. An example is the 5 year old Roswell witness that he defended long after everyone on both sides had stopped believing him. About a 15 years ago at a MUFON symposium there was a presentation about the Pratt papers. Robert Pratt was a journalist who had done a lot of work with UFO's. Back in the early 80's he was working on a book with Bill Moore and an unnamed third person known simply as "Sparrow" It was a fiction book about an OSI Sergeant who didn't believe in UFO's until he investigated the Ellsworth AFB case and later had his own UFO experience. The "hero" who was based on Sparrow of course, was recruited to work as part of a government disinformation scheme about UFO's, but after a while his conscience got to him and he worked to tell everyone the truth. He got caught and ended up dead on some far off planet. The name of the book was "Majic 12" and later "The Aquarius Project." Moore had regular meetings with Sparrow and his unnamed boss a Colonel named "Falcon" where he would discuss topics for the book, get "new" info from Sparrow/Falcon and also talk about Moore's UFO research with his friend Stanton Friedman. Sparrow would turn around and create fake documents based on the info he received and give them to Moore, with some being intended for Paul Bennowitz. The purpose of MJ-12/Majority 12/Majestic 12/Majic 12 was to cause infighting among the UFO community, and waste time and effort on useless nonsense. It worked excellently, especially on Stanton Friedman who would waste most of his life trying to prove MJ-12. The Truman signature is a copy, if you zoom in you can see where they used white out to remove the "s" that he signed over in the original, along with being 3.6% larger it's an obvious forgery. The Eisenhower briefing was probably created by Moore, he discussed it with Pratt while writing the book, they came up with the details together, the dates are very unusual it's uses 09 April, 2024 instead of 9 April 2024. Adding a zero in front of a single digit wasn't done until the 80's and there is no reason to use a comma after the month. No examples of using the extra zero and comma exist from the time period, but Bill Moore typed the date that way. Did I mention that Moore had discussed with people the idea of creating fake documents to encourage witness's to come forward? That was during the book writing and before any of the MJ-12 stuff came out. The Cutler Twinning memo was planted, Moore and Friedman both received postcards telling them to look in a specific box during a classified document dump. Moore claims he didn't tell anyone who the code names referred to, It seems Sparrow must have been surveilling him and incorrectly assumed he was Falcon. Our intrepid hero is none other than Mr "The Aliens love Tibetan music and Strawberry ice cream" himself, Richard C Doty. |
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Quoted: Stanton Friedman did a ton of research on these and firmly believed that a few of them were real. Specifically, he was convinced the Eisenhower briefing document from 1952, the Truman Forrestal memo from 1947, and the Cutler-Twining memo of 1954 were all legitimate. The Cutler-Twining memo is particularly interesting as it was pulled from the National Archives. It's a legit document to be sure. The Black Vault updated their page on Stanton Friedman and Majestic just a few months ago. That link is below. https://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/update-on-operation-majestic-12-documents/ The Majestic docs can be found here. Scroll to bottom and there are links to them. https://majesticdocuments.com/documents/ I find them fascinating. If real, among other things it sheds new light on why the government was out to take away Oppenheimer's security clearance. I mean, the bomb had already been created and the Soviets had theirs as well. Removing his clearance after the fact was just odd...., unless what they wanted him removed from was the ongoing investigation into UFO's. It was a far bigger secret than the A bomb, which had already been revealed. His wife and side piece were commies so there’s that |
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This take on the Majestic group of 12 is compelling: MJ12 = May/Johnson 12 Essentially the blog posits that the MJ12 group was real. They were a shadow gang of 12 that were tapped to be decision makers in the post-Atomic world. They were controversial as the May-Johnson legislation recommended a group of 9, with 3 being directly chosen by the President. This legislation failed, but the concept was retained and a group formed. The original MJ12 members included the heavy hitters of the time, particularly Vannevar Bush, Forrestal, Etc. There was a lot of concern about how we (the US) would form the post war world in 1945 and who would control the bomb. The "civilian" AEC was an example of this. I find the argument that Majestic 12 was a real group to be plausible. Stanton Friedman may have been aware of the May-Johnson legislation and not directly (not mentioned in anything I read that Stanton wrote) addressed it as he was already satisfied that the Majestic 12 group existed. Now, were they formed as part of the UFO flap? No, I don't think they were. They were formed to be a cabal of control into all things Atomic, and because they were set up and running the UFO issue would have been naturally assigned to them. 1947 continues to be an absolutely fascinating year. |
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Quoted: This take on the Majestic group of 12 is compelling: MJ12 = May/Johnson 12 Essentially the blog posits that the MJ12 group was real. They were a shadow gang of 12 that were tapped to be decision makers in the post-Atomic world. They were controversial as the May-Johnson legislation recommended a group of 9, with 3 being directly chosen by the President. This legislation failed, but the concept was retained and a group formed. The original MJ12 members included the heavy hitters of the time, particularly Vannevar Bush, Forrestal, Etc. There was a lot of concern about how we (the US) would form the post war world in 1945 and who would control the bomb. The "civilian" AEC was an example of this. I find the argument that Majestic 12 was a real group to be plausible. Stanton Friedman may have been aware of the May-Johnson legislation and not directly (not mentioned in anything I read that Stanton wrote) addressed it as he was already satisfied that the Majestic 12 group existed. Now, were they formed as part of the UFO flap? No, I don't think they were. They were formed to be a cabal of control into all things Atomic, and because they were set up and running the UFO issue would have been naturally assigned to them. 1947 continues to be an absolutely fascinating year. I would say that it is a near certainty that some "MJ12" type group exists, under some name be it Magic or Majestic or Unicorn 37. Likely with some MIC giants and global planners at the seats. Nothing else really makes sense. Likely a subset of the overlap between WEF/TLC/Council of 300/Bildeburg/etc which ARE known groups with member lists shown to have crossover. It would be the center spot where the Venn diagram of heavy hitters in planning for military, economic, political, social, and non-human interests overlap. We know how they love changing names and acronyms when things leak. |