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5/12/2024 9:11:22 PM EDT
Our mixed Doberman/Corgi (Dorgi) is 12 and went to the vet for swollen lymph nodes - 2 at the neck and 1 of 2 in her legs.

Blood was clear of infections, but I agreed to biopsy and found out that there was lymphona in 1 of the nodes.

The new vet I use is not as much of a hustling used car type as the old vet.  

The new vet recommends going to a K9 oncologist. In looking at the cost, this is not an option for our family.

No suggestions for pallative care, "bring her back when she needs to be put down" is about all I got.

What are my best options for pallative care? I saw some recommendations for high protein and some steroids.

Other than being somewhat more tired than my other dog, there's no obvious pain or misery (yet).
5/12/2024 9:36:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rodent][Edited] [#1]
Personally I would not put an old dog through chemo whether or not money is a factor.

I think your vet is right - just bring her back when she tells you she is no longer enjoying life.

"You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality."

Ayn Rand
5/12/2024 9:56:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GlutealCleft][Edited] [#2]
Steroids will temporarily shrink some types of tumors, but only temporarily. And in the cases in my animals that it's worked, when it stops, the tumors seem to really hit hard and FAST.

My advice... Start the steroids, and also pick a day in the near future, and schedule with an at-home vet.  Ideally, before the cancer gets really bad.  Sure, it may be a week or two too "early", but I don't see the reason in letting it get bad first.  It might be a little harder on the family to let go when they're not suffering yet, but it's far kinder on the dog.

5/13/2024 5:21:39 PM EDT
[#3]
I agree with the mention of using an in-home vet. We had to deal with lymphoma a year ago. 12 year old ridgeback. She developed a cough and for a month it continued to get worse. When it got to where she was having a coughing fit every 30 min, we took her to an emergency vet. It was a long visit but they finally determined she had fluid in her chest cavity, drew out 3L . She seemed fine after that but within a week it was back to the very frequent coughing fits. Had the in-home vet come and do the deed.

Brings a tear to my eyes typing this. She was the best dog, I wish our two now were as good (in time...). Hindsight: we waited too long but she hid her ailment so well, it was hard to know.
"I'm concerned with how easily misled many of you are. Serious question, do you just believe everything on the internet?" - JustinU235
5/13/2024 5:24:14 PM EDT
[#4]
Originally Posted By Cantshootstrate:
Our mixed Doberman/Corgi (Dorgi) is 12 and went to the vet for swollen lymph nodes - 2 at the neck and 1 of 2 in her legs.

Blood was clear of infections, but I agreed to biopsy and found out that there was lymphona in 1 of the nodes.

The new vet I use is not as much of a hustling used car type as the old vet.  

The new vet recommends going to a K9 oncologist. In looking at the cost, this is not an option for our family.

No suggestions for pallative care, "bring her back when she needs to be put down" is about all I got.

What are my best options for pallative care? I saw some recommendations for high protein and some steroids.

Other than being somewhat more tired than my other dog, there's no obvious pain or misery (yet).
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Sorry about your goodest Girl Cantshootstrate, chokes me up even reading this...

I have two large dogs, both of them have gotten into something and we had to rush them to the Doggy Hospital in St. Louis, for a weeks stay. Each stay costs me 2500+...

We try our best to keep anything up out of dog reach, but sometimes you let your guard down and they are they to grab something.

Their latest thing is to grab something, anything they can get, run out the back doggy door, then under their ""Treasure Tree" they decide to eat it, shred it, bury it, or leave it lay.  They both know that they are guilty of too.  If you bring something in and in a nice voice ask who had it, the guilty party heads to hide behind the couch in the living room.

They annoy the shit outta me, but I love them like my own kids.




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6/17/2024 8:20:53 PM EDT
[#5]
So, it's a month later. Here's an update.

Thanks for the kind words. Got a different vet who teared up when delivering a better plan and meds.

She's hanging in on 25 mg of prednisone, Gabapentin, and benadryl.

She's still food interested, not in pain, and high energy.

Has some coughing spells, but brief.

I've located the after hours vet place, and she is living her best life right now.

Attached is the - "Is that cheese for me pic"!

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Tennessee Squire - F&AM - PBA
LE Armorer - Montgomery NRA Grad
6/17/2024 8:43:41 PM EDT
[#6]
That's a sweet girl.
"History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives."-Abba Eban

"I like it both ways, but still mainly mouth it" -gonzo_beyondo
6/17/2024 9:26:12 PM EDT
[#7]
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Originally Posted By GlutealCleft:
Steroids will temporarily shrink some types of tumors, but only temporarily. And in the cases in my animals that it's worked, when it stops, the tumors seem to really hit hard and FAST.

My advice... Start the steroids, and also pick a day in the near future, and schedule with an at-home vet.  Ideally, before the cancer gets really bad.  Sure, it may be a week or two too "early", but I don't see the reason in letting it get bad first.  It might be a little harder on the family to let go when they're not suffering yet, but it's far kinder on the dog.

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I agree with this. Several years back, held my buddy as he passed on but it was so much better for him than putting him through the alternative.

Nick
If the enemy is range, so are you.
Don't mind Sylvan, he's fond of throwing intellectual Molotov cocktails.
6/17/2024 10:06:29 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By Cantshootstrate:
So, it's a month later. Here's an update.

Thanks for the kind words. Got a different vet who teared up when delivering a better plan and meds.

She's hanging in on 25 mg of prednisone, Gabapentin, and benadryl.

She's still food interested, not in pain, and high energy.

Has some coughing spells, but brief.

I've located the after hours vet place, and she is living her best life right now.

Attached is the - "Is that cheese for me pic"!

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/47759/IMG_5210_jpeg-3244063.JPG

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If you don't give that face some cheese, let me know and I will send her a block of her favorite flavor.
6/19/2024 5:08:52 PM EDT
[#9]
She went peacefully at the Vet's Office today. After years of pestering for chocolate, she turned down M&Ms at the Vets.

The tech did bring in a slice of pizza and she enjoyed it thoroughly.

Tennessee Squire - F&AM - PBA
LE Armorer - Montgomery NRA Grad
6/20/2024 11:44:32 AM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By Cantshootstrate:
She went peacefully at the Vet's Office today. After years of pestering for chocolate, she turned down M&Ms at the Vets.

The tech did bring in a slice of pizza and she enjoyed it thoroughly.

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I am truly sorry.

But you did right by her.
"History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives."-Abba Eban

"I like it both ways, but still mainly mouth it" -gonzo_beyondo
6/20/2024 11:59:51 AM EDT
[#11]
Sorry OP. Thank you for giving that dog a good life.
6/20/2024 6:11:50 PM EDT
[#12]
Sorry about your buddy. She was a good looking dog.

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