Posted: 8/24/2016 5:03:48 PM EDT
Pros and cons as an alternative to squats?
ETA for those who'll want to say, "Just do squats": I have a neurological disorder that caused extreme loss of muscle strength. The best I can do at present is self-assisted, BW squats, where I use my arms to help raise and lower my body. The trouble is, I can't really be sure how much work is being done by the legs vs how much load the arms are bearing. |
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I know you have a neuro issue correct? You may want to mention that because otherwise everyone will just tell you to do squats, which I know you can't really do. That said- Yeah, if you have a place to put one or place to use one do it. There are some downsides to these of course, but since you are legitimately unable to do squats they don't really matter. |
| among the ranks of any strength coach, legitimate strength program, or any power lifting community, it is unanimous that leg press if FAR inferior. Not even worth discussing, it is a waste of energy.Just squat. people will always find a way to avoid squatting to legitimize/ justify their being South of Vag. |
just do squats 
in highschool there were a bunch of us that could press the whole stack of 600lbs or whatever the fuck it was on the leg press machine so don't use it as any sort of realistic comparison to what you could actually squat. Your going to get a lot more leg isolation on the machine as opposed to working most of your body under a bar. I'm not too sure what your other options would be besides other kinds of squats like goblet. |
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OP- I know you have a neuro issue correct? You may want to mention that because otherwise everyone will just tell you to do squats, which I know you can't really do. That said- Yeah, if you have a place to put one or place to use one do it. There are some downsides to these of course, but since you are legitimately unable to do squats they don't really matter. This. Watch your knee path. Also, don't go so deep as to curve the spine and put bad pressure on it. |
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OP- I know you have a neuro issue correct? You may want to mention that because otherwise everyone will just tell you to do squats, which I know you can't really do. Quoted:
OP- I know you have a neuro issue correct? You may want to mention that because otherwise everyone will just tell you to do squats, which I know you can't really do. Right you are. Edit done. That said- Yeah, if you have a place to put one or place to use one do it. There are some downsides to these of course, but since you are legitimately unable to do squats they don't really matter. Don't have a leg press machine, or even a place to put one. However, I'm considering relocating to an apartment near a 24-Hour Fitness which I think has one. |
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Squats are superior to leg press yes. But the leg press does work for those of us with leg issues. Hell, even Dwayne Johnson(The Rock) uses a leg press machine in place of squats. If he can make it work, who am I to tell him he's wrong.
Only way I know how to tell you to get your actual squat up is to start at the very bottom. You're doing the body weight squats so keep them up. One day you'll be grabbing weights. It'll just take alot of work. |
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Pros and cons as an alternative to squats?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRFBohanZKg
ETA for those who'll want to say, "Just do squats": I have a neurological disorder that caused extreme loss of muscle strength. The best I can do at present is self-assisted, BW squats, where I use my arms to help raise and lower my body. The trouble is, I can't really be sure how much work is being done by the legs vs how much load the arms are bearing. Cons: -Less range of motion, you're restricted by the machine itself and will never reach the same positions as a barbell squat -Less motor recruitment, there's no balance portion and its become primarily a quad movement Pros: -measurable -consistent For your use, it's infinitely better because it is measurable. What would your routine be (yes, I'm hinting at progressive overload again)? Do 3 sets of 10 assisted BW squats for a year and you'll just be good at 10 assisted BW squats, and a little better at dips. |
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Cons: -Less range of motion, you're restricted by the machine itself and will never reach the same positions as a barbell squat -Less motor recruitment, there's no balance portion and its become primarily a quad movement Pros: -measurable -consistent For your use, it's infinitely better because it is measurable. What would your routine be (yes, I'm hinting at progressive overload again)? Do 3 sets of 10 assisted BW squats for a year and you'll just be good at 10 assisted BW squats, and a little better at dips. Quoted:
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Pros and cons as an alternative to squats? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRFBohanZKg
ETA for those who'll want to say, "Just do squats": I have a neurological disorder that caused extreme loss of muscle strength. The best I can do at present is self-assisted, BW squats, where I use my arms to help raise and lower my body. The trouble is, I can't really be sure how much work is being done by the legs vs how much load the arms are bearing. Cons: -Less range of motion, you're restricted by the machine itself and will never reach the same positions as a barbell squat -Less motor recruitment, there's no balance portion and its become primarily a quad movement Pros: -measurable -consistent For your use, it's infinitely better because it is measurable. What would your routine be (yes, I'm hinting at progressive overload again)? Do 3 sets of 10 assisted BW squats for a year and you'll just be good at 10 assisted BW squats, and a little better at dips. Thanks for the feedback. I don't know what my routine would be. I just started considering the idea. What would you suggest? |
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Pros and cons as an alternative to squats? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRFBohanZKg
ETA for those who'll want to say, "Just do squats": I have a neurological disorder that caused extreme loss of muscle strength. The best I can do at present is self-assisted, BW squats, where I use my arms to help raise and lower my body. The trouble is, I can't really be sure how much work is being done by the legs vs how much load the arms are bearing. Cons: -Less range of motion, you're restricted by the machine itself and will never reach the same positions as a barbell squat -Less motor recruitment, there's no balance portion and its become primarily a quad movement Pros: -measurable -consistent For your use, it's infinitely better because it is measurable. What would your routine be (yes, I'm hinting at progressive overload again)? Do 3 sets of 10 assisted BW squats for a year and you'll just be good at 10 assisted BW squats, and a little better at dips. Thanks for the feedback. I don't know what my routine would be. I just started considering the idea. What would you suggest? Linear progression, add weight each session. You will not get stronger unless you move more weight, move it more times or move it faster each workout. |
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Pros and cons as an alternative to squats? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRFBohanZKg
ETA for those who'll want to say, "Just do squats": I have a neurological disorder that caused extreme loss of muscle strength. The best I can do at present is self-assisted, BW squats, where I use my arms to help raise and lower my body. The trouble is, I can't really be sure how much work is being done by the legs vs how much load the arms are bearing. Cons: -Less range of motion, you're restricted by the machine itself and will never reach the same positions as a barbell squat -Less motor recruitment, there's no balance portion and its become primarily a quad movement Pros: -measurable -consistent For your use, it's infinitely better because it is measurable. What would your routine be (yes, I'm hinting at progressive overload again)? Do 3 sets of 10 assisted BW squats for a year and you'll just be good at 10 assisted BW squats, and a little better at dips. Thanks for the feedback. I don't know what my routine would be. I just started considering the idea. What would you suggest? Linear progression, add weight each session. You will not get stronger unless you move more weight, move it more times or move it faster each workout. This could even mean you add as little as 1 rep to each workout- or 1 rep a week. As an example. Good luck Stan. |
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Pros and cons as an alternative to squats? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRFBohanZKg
ETA for those who'll want to say, "Just do squats": I have a neurological disorder that caused extreme loss of muscle strength. The best I can do at present is self-assisted, BW squats, where I use my arms to help raise and lower my body. The trouble is, I can't really be sure how much work is being done by the legs vs how much load the arms are bearing. Cons: -Less range of motion, you're restricted by the machine itself and will never reach the same positions as a barbell squat -Less motor recruitment, there's no balance portion and its become primarily a quad movement Pros: -measurable -consistent For your use, it's infinitely better because it is measurable. What would your routine be (yes, I'm hinting at progressive overload again)? Do 3 sets of 10 assisted BW squats for a year and you'll just be good at 10 assisted BW squats, and a little better at dips. Thanks for the feedback. I don't know what my routine would be. I just started considering the idea. What would you suggest? Linear progression, add weight each session. You will not get stronger unless you move more weight, move it more times or move it faster each workout. This could even mean you add as little as 1 rep to each workout- or 1 rep a week. As an example. Good luck Stan. Understood. Thanks, guys. 
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