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Posted: 9/5/2004 7:20:22 PM EDT

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One of the muslims posted some excerpts from the Quran about Jihad. I wish to share it with you all so you can see it for yourself, without comment from me. For my part, this is strickly FYI, I'm not endorsing any of this.

salaam all,
i just want to place some quranic verses related to jihad may we all learn from it inshallah.

002:190. Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.

002:191. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Masjid, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith

002:193. And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression

002:216. Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.

002:217. They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: "Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Masjid, and drive out its members." Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you Turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein.

002:244. Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things.

002:246. Hast thou not Turned thy vision to the Chiefs of the Children of Israel after (the time of) Moses? they said to a prophet (That was) among them: "Appoint for us a king, that we May fight in the cause of Allah." He said: "Is it not possible, if ye were commanded to fight, that that ye will not fight?" They said: "How could we refuse to fight in the cause of Allah, seeing that we were turned out of our homes and our families?" but when they were commanded to fight, they turned back, except a small band among them. But Allah Has full knowledge of those who do wrong.

003:13. "There has already been for you a Sign in the two armies that met (in combat): One was fighting in the cause of Allah, the other resisting Allah. these saw with their own eyes Twice their number. But Allah doth support with His aid whom He pleaseth. In this is a warning for such as have eyes to see."

003:111. They will do you no harm, barring a trifling annoyance; if they come out to fight you, they will show you their backs, and no help shall they get

003:156. O ye who believe! Be not like the Unbelievers, who say of their brethren, when they are travelling through the Earth or engaged in fighting: "If they had stayed with us, they would not have died, or been slain." This that Allah may make it a cause of sighs and regrets in their hearts. It is Allah that gives Life and Death, and Allah sees well all that ye do.

may Allah forgive me for my mistakes.

Allah akhbar.

Allah hafiz

Posted: 9/5/2004 7:25:02 PM EDT

[#1]

Tell me something I dont know.

Posted: 9/5/2004 7:29:08 PM EDT

[#2]

The defenders of Islam will point out that those verses dont REALLY mean that....

Posted: 9/5/2004 7:33:15 PM EDT

[#3]

"Well we don't REALLY believe in acting on that... we are peaceful. We just prefer fishing vests that tick".

- BG

Posted: 9/5/2004 7:35:43 PM EDT

[#4]

Since we cant talk about exterminating everyone of a particular religion, I won't.

Posted: 9/5/2004 7:38:12 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
The defenders of Islam will point out that those verses dont REALLY mean that....

Surah 9:5 of the (un)Holy Qua'ran

"Slay the infidels where you find them. Harass them, beleaguer them, lie in wait for them and take them with EVERY MEANS OF TRICKERY AND DECEIT! <emphasis added> until they all embrace Islam."

which would include denying that they hate us and trying to convince the world that they are our friends and that their's is a "Peaceful Religion"

Any Questions?

Posted: 9/5/2004 7:41:36 PM EDT

[#6]

Islam seeks only peace. There's nothing to see here. Move along.

Posted: 9/5/2004 7:43:08 PM EDT

[#7]

Bacon enemas for all of them.

Posted: 9/5/2004 7:48:47 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
Quoted:
The defenders of Islam will point out that those verses dont REALLY mean that....

Surah 9:5 of the (un)Holy Qua'ran

"Slay the infidels where you find them. Harass them, beleaguer them, lie in wait for them and take them with EVERY MEANS OF TRICKERY AND DECEIT! <emphasis added> until they all embrace Islam."

which would include denying that they hate us and trying to convince the world that they are our friends and that their's is a "Peaceful Religion"

Any Questions?

Im not a defender of Islam.

Posted: 9/5/2004 7:51:41 PM EDT

[#9]

Thats a lot of fighting and slaying....where are all the quotes about peace?

Bottom fkn line...if Islam were a religion of peace, why the hell werent all those hippie assholes from the 60's extolling its virtue?

Posted: 9/5/2004 7:52:14 PM EDT

[#10]

"They weigh the same as a duck, burn them "

Posted: 9/5/2004 7:57:24 PM EDT

[#11]

But what about all the good muslims?

You know, the ones who are helping us weed out the bad ones. What about all those good muslims who are always condemning the inhuman acts of the others? What about all of them?

Posted: 9/5/2004 8:00:08 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
The defenders of Islam will point out that those verses dont REALLY mean that....

Surah 9:5 of the (un)Holy Qua'ran

"Slay the infidels where you find them. Harass them, beleaguer them, lie in wait for them and take them with EVERY MEANS OF TRICKERY AND DECEIT! <emphasis added> until they all embrace Islam."

which would include denying that they hate us and trying to convince the world that they are our friends and that their's is a "Peaceful Religion"

Any Questions?

Im not a defender of Islam.

Brother Lumpy, I never intended to suggest that you were and I openly apologize to you and all others if my post was taken as such.

Posted: 9/5/2004 8:02:09 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
But what about all the good muslims?

You know, the ones who are helping us weed out the bad ones. What about all those good muslims who are always condemning the inhuman acts of the others? What about all of them?

Ummmm...you're joking...right?

Posted: 9/5/2004 8:04:32 PM EDT

[#14]

Damning evidence bump.

Posted: 9/5/2004 8:06:24 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Brother Lumpy, I never intended to suggest that you were and I openly apologize to you and all others if my post was taken as such.

Wasnt upset, just stating for the record

Posted: 9/5/2004 8:07:47 PM EDT

[#16]

cool, maybe internment camps will come back in fashion again.

Remember, your either with us or against us.

Posted: 9/5/2004 8:13:43 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
Quoted:
The defenders of Islam will point out that those verses dont REALLY mean that....

Surah 9:5 of the (un)Holy Qua'ran

"Slay the infidels where you find them. Harass them, beleaguer them, lie in wait for them and take them with EVERY MEANS OF TRICKERY AND DECEIT! <emphasis added> until they all embrace Islam."

which would include denying that they hate us and trying to convince the world that they are our friends and that their's is a "Peaceful Religion"

Any Questions?

Hmmmm, they musta forgot to include that for some reason.....

Posted: 9/5/2004 8:14:53 PM EDT

[#18]

I hate Islamic apologists as much as I hate Islam itself.

Posted: 9/5/2004 8:18:17 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:
Quoted:
But what about all the good muslims?

You know, the ones who are helping us weed out the bad ones. What about all those good muslims who are always condemning the inhuman acts of the others? What about all of them?

Ummmm...you're joking...right?

Of course I was. I would have to be either joking or seriously delusional, don't ya think?

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