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4/24/2006 3:18:33 AM EDT
Well, Im not afraid of guns and I dont mind being around them, but I dont want my kids around them. I guess I just dont want them growing up to be like OBSESSED with guns. To go to school and talk about nothing but that. I know its a hobby that lots of men and women have, and I truly respect that, but I dont want my son/daughter to be like their father and get a hard on every time they see a nice gun. Am I wrong for thinking this way? I guess Im just afraid of them getting hurt.hinking.gif
4/24/2006 3:19:30 AM EDT
[#1]
Just as long as they have good knowledge of them (rights and wrongs), sounds ok to me
4/24/2006 3:19:41 AM EDT
[#2]
Whats wrong with any of that?
4/24/2006 3:19:41 AM EDT
[#3]
4/24/2006 3:20:03 AM EDT
[#4]
What would be the course of action to prevent a gun obsession?
Or, what would be the course of action to cause a gun obsession, that you are trying to avoid?
4/24/2006 3:22:37 AM EDT
[#5]
It's NOT an OBSESSION, and I'm not a gun NUT!!.. (twitch, twitch)
4/24/2006 3:27:02 AM EDT
[#6]
On a serious note, I know what you mean.  I've known guys that pass up food and medical treatment so they can buy guns, but I don't think that's a problem for kids if you start them early enough.
4/24/2006 4:03:09 AM EDT
[#7]
you have no control over what they really like and want. You can keep them from buying them up to 18 or so but after that it's up to them.

the best thing you can do is EDUCATE them about the guns in your home. what to do if they see or find one at a freinds home or in public. How to make the weapon safe etc....


mike
4/24/2006 4:06:10 AM EDT
[#8]
Dang bud, you have to work on your logic.

If you don't want your kids hurt you buy them a gun and train them when and how to use them.  The thought that wolves will always leave the sheep alone if the sheep just lays down is flawed for the wolf attacks sheep cause he is hungry and sheep don't fight back.  Read the newspaper.  You will find by far the greatest majority of crimes are committed against people who don't own guns.  There's a reason and it isn't the gun scares the badguys but gunowners tend to not be scared of badguys.  Criminals like water take the path of least reistance.  

"My daughter was gang raped but at least she didn't waste her money on guns." is pretty flawed logic.  

Obcession is a separate issue and it can take many forms not just guns.  

Guns are not evil nor do they weild this magical influence over people.  They are a tool, inanimate object. with no thought process or soul.  

Tj
4/24/2006 4:38:26 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
Well, Im not afraid of guns and I dont mind being around them, but I dont want my kids around them. I guess I just dont want them growing up to be like OBSESSED with guns. To go to school and talk about nothing but that. I know its a hobby that lots of men and women have, and I truly respect that, but I dont want my son/daughter to be like their father and get a hard on every time they see a nice gun. Am I wrong for thinking this way? I guess Im just afraid of them getting hurt.

















Sniff.....Sniff.....

Whats the smell?




Sniff..









I smell .....
4/24/2006 5:12:53 AM EDT
[#10]
It is a valid concern. Guns will turn normal everyday people into stone killers. I saw it on TV so it must be true.
4/24/2006 5:29:27 AM EDT
[#11]
I say, introduce them at a nice and young early age about guns. It should alleviate any curiosities about guns that would develop if you kept them away.
4/24/2006 5:35:15 AM EDT
[#12]
Kinda Freudian, doncha think...  
4/24/2006 5:40:00 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
It's NOT an OBSESSION, and I'm not a gun NUT!!.. (twitch, twitch)


4/24/2006 5:52:02 AM EDT
[#14]
They might grow up obsessed anyway dispite your protectedness.  Happened to me  How can you not watch movies today or play Recon II or whatever video games that involve guns and not get obsessed?
4/24/2006 5:55:09 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Well, Im not afraid of guns and I dont mind being around them, but I dont want my kids around them. ........ I guess Im just afraid of them getting hurt.



Your children are more likely to get hurt if they AREN'T brought up around guns.  Familiarization is the key to safety.   You can't keep your children away from guns, but you can educate them so they know how to behave around them safely.
4/24/2006 5:58:01 AM EDT
[#16]
If you don't know much about firearms and don't have the ability to properly educate your children then, by all means, don't allow your children access to firearms.

Weapons are only dangerous in the hands of dangerous people.  Your expressed uncertainty makes me believe your children wouldn't be safe around you and your firearms.

The best way to keep them safe, as already stated above, is to have them properly trained.

Until then, keep them away from your weapons and keep your weapons locked up.
4/24/2006 6:03:21 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Well, Im not afraid of guns and I dont mind being around them, but I dont want my kids around them. I guess I just dont want them growing up to be like OBSESSED with guns. To go to school and talk about nothing but that. I know its a hobby that lots of men and women have, and I truly respect that, but I dont want my son/daughter to be like their father and get a hard on every time they see a nice gun. Am I wrong for thinking this way? I guess Im just afraid of them getting hurt.



You're posting on a gun board....are you, like, OBSESSED? Stop posting here at once!
Do it for the children!!!
4/24/2006 6:10:54 AM EDT
[#18]
Simply hiding the guns from the kids won't work.  You are in a way teasing them.  Thereby you are piquing their curiosity and setting them up for failure.  Take them to the range and educate them.  Let it become a hobby and you will prevent it from becoming an obsession.  Right now, they are thinking guns are like sex, its gotta be great because daddy does it and we can't.  Also, your sounding quite hypocritical about the whole issue.  You probably smoke pot too and tell them not to
4/24/2006 6:20:09 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
Well, Im not afraid of guns and I dont mind being around them, but I dont want my kids around them. I guess I just dont want them growing up to be like OBSESSED with guns. To go to school and talk about nothing but that. I know its a hobby that lots of men and women have, and I truly respect that, but I dont want my son/daughter to be like their father and get a hard on every time they see a nice gun. Am I wrong for thinking this way? I guess Im just afraid of them getting hurt.



How old are they?  

They should be introduced to the Eddie Eagle program.

Since you're in Florida, if you're anywhere near Tampa IM me and I'll get you all the materials you need. I'll also be glad to teach it to them for no charge if you're close enough.
4/24/2006 6:20:32 AM EDT
[#20]
Mother #&*@%$... I am pissed. This is twice now.

I typed up a long, well thought out response to her post and at the end I attempted to make a spelling correction. When I hit the backspace key the webpage went back instead. I hit reply again and started typing what I could remember only to have the webpage go back again when I hit the backspace key midway through the reply.

Eh, not doing it again.... Why I even wrote all of the above I don't know.

Long response cut very, very short: Let your children decide for themselves what they enjoy. Don't exchange sons and daughters for sheep.
4/24/2006 6:24:57 AM EDT
[#21]
Over the last twenty-five years, the anti-gunners have created a culture of fear of guns.  By using the media they have portrayed various non-existant gun registration schemes in TV and movies.  They portray gun violence and violence in general with no consequences.  The idea is to convince people that gun registration already exists and it is the gun not the violent act that is the problem.

As we speak, anti-gun doctors probe unsuspecting children about a families gun and hunting habits and report it as a health related crime.  Teachers try and portray guns as the cause of acts like Columbine, not the behavior problems or abuse inflicted upon children by the peers.  At Columbine, jocks and assorted assholes with teacher support, abused those kids until they snapped.  Nobody has ever questioned why they did what they did, other than to blame guns.

Utility companies and delivery companies train their employees to be on the look out for guns when they enter your house, the cops ask them to snoop and report findings of the illegal searchs for future actions.

Cities are posting "security cameras" for your protection on every street corner in some cites.  They can use them to zoom into opened windows and in conjunction with mics, monitor conversations for words like "gun".  As you load your range gear into the car, you get tagged for future action.

This is important because outside of a range or gunstore, most people have reactions of utter fear when they see a gun or hear about a gun or gun owner.  Many of them cannot distinguish a law abiding gun owner from a criminal in the act of commiting a felony.  The movement to disarm is well ahead of you.

It would be important to teach your children to respect firearms, to understand their dangers and to be discreet when discussing them.  Every one of their friends who learns from them, is another mind saved from the liberal bias.  My daughter does not shoot or really cares to shoot, but she has a good understanding of firearms and has had since she was in elementary school.  What else have you forgot to tell them in order to save them from themselves?


4/24/2006 6:27:01 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

...I dont want my son/daughter to be like their father and get a hard on every time they see a nice gun. Am I wrong for thinking this way? I guess Im just afraid of them getting hurt.



Please clarify:

Is it you, or your husband, who gets a hard on at the sight of a nice gun?

Welcome to ar15.com.
4/24/2006 6:54:00 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Mother #&*@%$... I am pissed. This is twice now.

I typed up a long, well thought out response to her post and at the end I attempted to make a spelling correction. When I hit the backspace key the webpage went back instead. I hit reply again and started typing what I could remember only to have the webpage go back again when I hit the backspace key midway through the reply.

Eh, not doing it again.... Why I even wrote all of the above I don't know.

Long response cut very, very short: Let your children decide for themselves what they enjoy. Don't exchange sons and daughters for sheep.



Before you do anything like that, put your cursor in the text box, hit CTRL-A and CTRL-C.  This will copy your post into the system buffer.

If you crash before you can get it posted, all you have to do is CTRL-V and restore the text in a new box.

Hope this is of help...
4/24/2006 7:19:13 AM EDT
[#24]
I grew up with guns from an early age and I'm completely normel.
4/24/2006 7:23:35 AM EDT
[#25]
You are far more likely to screw your kids up with too much mothering than you are by letting them play with guns.

Lighten up and deal with the issues you have with their father.
4/24/2006 7:23:50 AM EDT
[#26]
Better to have them gun sddicts than gun grabbers. Teach them right from wrong and they will turn out just fine.
4/24/2006 7:55:47 AM EDT
[#27]
My parents were strongly anti-gun, and wouldn't even let me have a PELLET gun until I nagged the HELL out of them incessantly. I was always into guns, especially when they wouldn't let me near them. I read magazines, etc.

Bottom line: If it's their interest, you aren't going to prevent it. The best idea is to educate them about guns AND about being financially responsible. That way they don't end up like me, blowing thousands of dollars on their TOTALLY AWESOME gun collection.
4/24/2006 8:01:20 AM EDT
[#28]
My parents tried to keep me away from guns growing up. I couldn't have toy guns bb guns or pellet guns. I am banned from having them in the house now even though I am over 18. But I still managed to buy an AR-15, M70 Underfolder and a Mossberg 500 Persuader... Try to keep them away, it will do no good.
4/24/2006 8:05:09 AM EDT
[#29]
You are a sick bastard.
4/24/2006 8:06:42 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well, Im not afraid of guns and I dont mind being around them, but I dont want my kids around them. I guess I just dont want them growing up to be like OBSESSED with guns. To go to school and talk about nothing but that. I know its a hobby that lots of men and women have, and I truly respect that, but I dont want my son/daughter to be like their father and get a hard on every time they see a nice gun. Am I wrong for thinking this way? I guess Im just afraid of them getting hurt.

















Sniff.....Sniff.....

Whats the smell?




Sniff..









I smell .....



Right there with ya.
4/24/2006 8:07:53 AM EDT
[#31]
From my experience it was my mothers irational fear and loathing of guns that got me into them, i was the kid that wasn't allowed to have toy guns for a while, that got me so courious that it started my "obsession".

kids always want what they can't have, so let them have it and let it be somthing that bonds you with your kid and educate them in all the safty rules, over and over.
4/24/2006 8:13:38 AM EDT
[#32]
My kids have grown up with firearms and shooting.   My neighbor kids have not.  I often see my neighbor's kids out in the yard with make believe guns having shoot outs.  

4/24/2006 8:16:41 AM EDT
[#33]
IM sent to OP offering Eddie Eagle materials.

Waiting for response...
5/1/2006 5:18:12 AM EDT
[#34]
Tag.
5/1/2006 6:13:07 AM EDT
[#35]

Quoted:
IM sent to OP offering Eddie Eagle materials.

Waiting for response...



It's been a week.  No response from OP on Eddie Eagle offer.  

I therefore submit
5/1/2006 6:22:56 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
...but I dont want my son/daughter to be like their father and get a hard on every time they see a nice gun...



I have to agree with you. I don't want my daughter to get a hard-on either.  Other than that, we have nothing in common in regards to our opinions on firearms.
5/1/2006 6:48:30 AM EDT
[#37]
I always wanted a BB gun when I was a kid, and my dad would have none of it.  He was afraid that I might get hurt somehow.

Results?








Yeah, that worked out, Dad.

-Troy
5/1/2006 6:49:57 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
I always wanted a BB gun when I was a kid, and my dad would have none of it.  He was afraid that I might get hurt somehow.

Results?

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=17921

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=2898

initialimpulse.com/pics/AmmoCans.jpg


Yeah, that worked out, Dad.

-Troy



I'm n the same boat with ya there.
5/1/2006 7:33:19 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
Well, Im not afraid of guns and I dont mind being around them, but I dont want my kids around them. I guess I just dont want them growing up to be like OBSESSED with guns. To go to school and talk about nothing but that. I know its a hobby that lots of men and women have, and I truly respect that, but I dont want my son/daughter to be like their father and get a hard on every time they see a nice gun. Am I wrong for thinking this way? I guess Im just afraid of them getting hurt.



I am sure that violent video games and movies are much better for children.
5/1/2006 8:16:47 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:


-Troy



Troy...Third from the right is sooooooooooo screaming my name.

Got an extra bunk? I'll buy the ammo and beer and pizza afterwards!
5/2/2006 10:00:09 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:
photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=17921

-Troy



Troy...Third from the right is sooooooooooo screaming my name.

Got an extra bunk? I'll buy the ammo and beer and pizza afterwards!



Now THAT's an offer!  

-Troy
5/2/2006 12:11:03 PM EDT
[#42]
But is there a DAISY in your collection???  
5/2/2006 3:00:50 PM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:
But is there a DAISY in your collection???  



Actually, no.  Which is wierd, now that I've thought about it.  But, much of the reason I wanted a BB gun was to acclimate my PARENTS into the idea of me having (real) guns.  Once that was no longer necessary, neither was the BB gun.

I *do* have an airsoft Glock, but it's more for training other people than for shooting plastic BBs at stuff.

I ALSO have the gun that made my Dad afraid of guns, or rather, afraid of what could go wrong.  It was my grandfather's Winchester tube-mag-fed bolt-action .22 rifle.  At some point in his teens, my dad almost shot some other kid because he shot into a stand of trees without checking it out first.  There was a kid in the area, who thought my dad was trying to shoot him.  It freaked my Dad out, and that was that.  The thought of actually EDUCATING me on safe gun handling didn't occur to him, but that's because HE was never taught.

I've since become the teacher, and have taken him to the range, which he enjoys.

-Troy
5/2/2006 3:08:27 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:
I always wanted a BB gun when I was a kid, and my dad would have none of it.  He was afraid that I might get hurt somehow.

Results?

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=17921

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=2898

initialimpulse.com/pics/AmmoCans.jpg


Yeah, that worked out, Dad.

-Troy



LOL

same here