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12/9/2010 9:01:24 PM EDT
I was in history class and we were talking about ww2 in the Pacific theatre. I got onto the topic of the japanese and I said" Well the Japs did x, and x." I got removed from the class because it was offensive I guess. I tried in plead my case in that its the same as calling a jewish person a jew. I further went on to explain that my grandfathers who both served in ww2 hated the Japanese and they called them nips. Never once did I hear them call em Japs when they were expressing hatred towards them. Anyway, just wondering if this teacher was a loser or if i was in the wrong?
12/9/2010 9:03:34 PM EDT
[#1]
You in Eugene?
12/9/2010 9:04:09 PM EDT
[#2]
The only people I have ever seen offended by the words "Jap" or "Jew" are white.
12/9/2010 9:05:36 PM EDT
[#3]
Should have kept your mouth shut.

Something I wished I had learned much sooner than I did.
12/9/2010 9:06:32 PM EDT
[#4]
I've been ripped by people here for using the term "jap" so I guess it's verboten.
12/9/2010 9:07:19 PM EDT
[#5]
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Should have kept your mouth shut.

Something I wished I had learned much sooner than I did.


Yeah I made the wrong choice that school was about learning. I'll just sit back and gets a's I guess fuck it. Yes this teacher was white. I have no problem if I give crap to blacks or mexicans, they give it back and its all in good fun.
12/9/2010 9:08:03 PM EDT
[#6]
I'm German and I give you permission to use Kraut when the discussion moves to the European Theater.
12/9/2010 9:14:17 PM EDT
[#7]
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The only people I have ever seen offended by the words "Jap" or "Jew" are white.


This
12/9/2010 9:18:27 PM EDT
[#8]




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Should have kept your mouth shut.



Something I wished I had learned much sooner than I did.




Yeah I made the wrong choice that school was about learning. I'll just sit back and gets a's I guess fuck it. Yes this teacher was white. I have no problem if I give crap to blacks or mexicans, they give it back and its all in good fun.




  OOOH YEAHHH !.... Soon enough you'll learn the only education you'll get is the one they want you to get, and it will be left-handed.



12/9/2010 9:21:54 PM EDT
[#9]
Yeah, I've heard that many people use the term "Japs" as a derogatory term toward the Japanese, but I use it all the time not meaning for it to be derogatory. I find that it's a convenient shortening of the term Japanese. I wouldn't use it in a formal paper or anything, but I think in a vocal medium, it's all about context.

I think it's kind of like using the term "Negro" for black people. Hell, I guess it's even kinda like using the term "Black" for black people.
12/9/2010 9:25:23 PM EDT
[#10]
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I'm German and I give you permission to use Kraut when the discussion moves to the European Theater.


+1, I'm of German ethnicity, and I also give permission.
12/9/2010 9:28:22 PM EDT
[#11]
I'm curious to hear the details of how you were removed from class
12/9/2010 9:28:23 PM EDT
[#12]
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I'm German and I give you permission to use Kraut when the discussion moves to the European Theater.


+1, I'm of German ethnicity, and I also give permission.


I agree, I have same heritage and I either want everyone to say whatever they want or none of it. None of this you cant say this but you can say it about x group of people. Nothing gets me more pissed off than being called a honkie, only because I can't use in kind language back.
12/9/2010 9:32:25 PM EDT
[#13]
Political correctness is taking something good and perverting it to a point of insanity. Respect is good. Oversensitivity is bad.
12/9/2010 9:33:20 PM EDT
[#14]
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I'm curious to hear the details of how you were removed from class


This happened a while back a year or so ago and just got to thinking about it when I was reading a paper I wrote on the subject. Anyway, he said you are not to use that kind of language in my class. I was shocked and utterly stunned anyway was told I was to wait outside until the class was finished. I attempted to explain my case and had no dice.
12/9/2010 9:35:49 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
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I'm curious to hear the details of how you were removed from class


This happened a while back a year or so ago and just got to thinking about it when I was reading a paper I wrote on the subject. Anyway, he said you are not to use that kind of language in my class. I was shocked and utterly stunned anyway was told I was to wait outside until the class was finished. I attempted to explain my case and had no dice.


Intolerance... will not be tolerated.
12/9/2010 9:37:51 PM EDT
[#16]
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I'm curious to hear the details of how you were removed from class


This happened a while back a year or so ago and just got to thinking about it when I was reading a paper I wrote on the subject. Anyway, he said you are not to use that kind of language in my class. I was shocked and utterly stunned anyway was told I was to wait outside until the class was finished. I attempted to explain my case and had no dice.


Intolerance... will not be tolerated.


Yeah, interestingly enough the guy was a Mormon. So I don't think he liked the fact that since he was calling me racist that look at the Mormon church excluding blacks until the 70s. Boy he was pissed about that one. I should have kept my mouth shut but I was tired of being a pog.
12/9/2010 9:40:02 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
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I'm curious to hear the details of how you were removed from class


This happened a while back a year or so ago and just got to thinking about it when I was reading a paper I wrote on the subject. Anyway, he said you are not to use that kind of language in my class. I was shocked and utterly stunned anyway was told I was to wait outside until the class was finished. I attempted to explain my case and had no dice.


jesus, that sounds embarrassing
12/9/2010 9:41:41 PM EDT
[#18]
Its a "no no" word created through constantly evolving idiotic social norms. Its Japanese for short. I'm sure if you referred to the Germans as Krauts, no one would have had problems.
12/9/2010 9:41:50 PM EDT
[#19]
Jap kinda turned into what "nig" is for black folks



So yeah, its not something you say in polite conversation
12/9/2010 9:42:20 PM EDT
[#20]



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Its a "no no" word created through constantly evolving idiotic social norms. Its Japanese for short. I'm sure if you referred to the Germans as Krauts, no one would have had problems.


The problem is, germans are white so nobody cares

 
12/9/2010 9:42:20 PM EDT
[#21]
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I'm curious to hear the details of how you were removed from class


This happened a while back a year or so ago and just got to thinking about it when I was reading a paper I wrote on the subject. Anyway, he said you are not to use that kind of language in my class. I was shocked and utterly stunned anyway was told I was to wait outside until the class was finished. I attempted to explain my case and had no dice.


jesus, that sounds embarrassing


Not really if I was out of line I would expect to be punished, I was more pissed than anything. I do stupid shit to be funny, but to get reprimanded for something of that caliber I thought it was dumb. Oh well I now know the game of education and will get the grades I want and keep my pie hole shut.
12/9/2010 9:47:28 PM EDT
[#22]
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Jap kinda turned into what "nig" is for black folks

So yeah, its not something you say in polite conversation


Interesting all this acronyms are supposed to make people clinch up in fear omg he said jap oh teh noes 111 hes evil. Fucking bull shit!
12/9/2010 9:51:17 PM EDT
[#23]





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Should have kept your mouth shut.





Something I wished I had learned much sooner than I did.



This is what I do in class.





 
12/9/2010 9:52:59 PM EDT
[#24]
I think you should work the word "niggardly" into your vocabulary in that class as often as possible.

It really brings the idiots out of the woodwork.
12/9/2010 9:53:48 PM EDT
[#25]
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I think you should work the word "niggardly" into your vocabulary in that class as often as possible.

It really brings the idiots out of the woodwork.


I do tell people they are chimping out, they never know what it means so it pisses them off.
12/9/2010 9:57:02 PM EDT
[#26]
The word "Jap" is rather frowned upon.
12/9/2010 9:59:07 PM EDT
[#27]
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The word "Jap" is rather frowned upon.


So is calling someone a cunt but I am never ever gonna curb my vocabulary because someones feelers are hurt.
12/9/2010 10:04:09 PM EDT
[#28]





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The word "Jap" is rather frowned upon.






So is calling someone a cunt but I am never ever gonna curb my vocabulary because someones feelers are hurt.



Please don't tell me you drew an analogy between Jap and cunt. As if saying cunt in class is perfectly acceptable.

 






Half Asian here. I say Jap all the time among peers, but it's not polite to say among "sensitive" people. I'm told, by non Japanese folk, that the Japanese are offended by it.

 
12/9/2010 10:05:38 PM EDT
[#29]
"Nip" is short for "Nippon" which, I think,  is the Japanese version of "Japan".

I got into a shit storm in a history class once. The professor was on a rant about how racist it was to bomb the Nips into submission.
Prof:"We didn't or wouldn't do *THAT* to any other culture"...

From the back of the room in a quiet but clear tone..."Bullshit". Gasps all around.

Prof: "Excuse me? Who said that"?
Me: "I did"
Prof: "Explain yourself"(In a very condescending tone)

Me: "I said 'bullshit'. Our country killed thousands and thousands of people in one night. Women and children. Old men. Burned them to death. They all looked like me(blond hair, blue eyes, fair skin). It wasn't about race. It was about war. It was about killing so many of them, they couldn't fight anymore. My grandmother's tribe was from a small village just south of Dresden. Ever hear of it? You should research your work better. I probably still have relatives in the area. If our government didn't kill them all, because they bombed them night after night after night".

"The Japs weren't going to willingly quit or surrender. It wasn't racist to try and wipe 'em out. It was war".

I thought he was gonna have some kind of a stroke or seizure. He never broached the subject again. I got an "A"...
12/9/2010 10:09:09 PM EDT
[#30]
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"Nip" is short for "Nippon" which, I think,  is the Japanese version of "Japan".

I got into a shit storm in a history class once. The professor was on a rant about how racist it was to bomb the Nips into submission.
Prof:"We didn't or wouldn't do *THAT* to any other culture"...

From the back of the room in a quiet but clear tone..."Bullshit". Gasps all around.

Prof: "Excuse me? Who said that"?
Me: "I did"
Prof: "Explain yourself"(In a very condescending tone)

Me: "I said 'bullshit'. Our country killed thousands and thousands of people in one night. Women and children. Old men. Burned them to death. They all looked like me(blond hair, blue eyes, fair skin). It wasn't about race. It was about war. It was about killing so many of them, they couldn't fight anymore. My grandmother's tribe was from a small village just south of Dresden. Ever hear of it? You should research your work better. I probably still have relatives in the area. If our government didn't kill them all, because they bombed them night after night after night".

"The Japs weren't going to willingly quit or surrender. It wasn't racist to try and wipe 'em out. It was war".

I thought he was gonna have some kind of a stroke or seizure. He never broached the subject again. I got an "A"...


Fucking a bud nice job. The allied fire bombing also shuts people the fuck up
12/9/2010 10:11:19 PM EDT
[#31]



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I'm German and I give you permission to use Kraut when the discussion moves to the European Theater.




+1, I'm of German ethnicity, and I also give permission.
Mich auch.





 
12/9/2010 10:12:35 PM EDT
[#32]





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The word "Jap" is rather frowned upon.






So is calling someone a cunt but I am never ever gonna curb my vocabulary because someones feelers are hurt.



I'm not saying it's right or wrong to use it, just stating that society has deemed it a "bad word."


 
12/9/2010 10:17:08 PM EDT
[#33]
I though Oregon was all about freedom of expression and the First Amendment?   I'd call out the teacher for censoring you.
12/9/2010 10:23:28 PM EDT
[#34]




They're stupid.  "Jap" is perfectly acceptable in the context of a WW2 discussion, as is "Kraut".



Can we still call Stalin's forces Commies?  FFS.
12/9/2010 10:35:42 PM EDT
[#35]



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Quoted:

The word "Jap" is rather frowned upon.




So is calling someone a cunt but I am never ever gonna curb my vocabulary because someones feelers are hurt.


You know people who have feelers?