[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Is it wrong to hate? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 2/17/2009 4:50:24 AM EDT
| Is it wrong to hate people that hate us? Or should we just love them and turn the other cheek? Thats basically what I heard a Pastor say the other day. Is he on to something? |
, "You do not hate...you dislike"
| I TRY not to hate people, because I've found that hating someone gives them power over you That's not to say that I disapprove of killing people like Bin Laden or other terrorists, but I desire them killed the same way I would desire cockroaches killed in my house...because it's needful. |
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CS Lewis said (during WWII) that it's possible that a British soldier and a Nazi soldier, both Christians, meet on the battlefield. They face each other, and at the same moment pull the triggers, killing them both at the same time. Neither one did anything wrong - they both were serving their country. Neither had hate for the other. As they walk into the pearly gates, they greet each other like long lost brothers.
You don't have to hate your enemies in order to defend yourself from them. You don't have to hate someone to kill them, either in self-defense or in war. |
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CS Lewis said (during WWII) that it's possible that a British soldier and a Nazi soldier, both Christians, meet on the battlefield. They face each other, and at the same moment pull the triggers, killing them both at the same time. Neither one did anything wrong - they both were serving their country. Neither had hate for the other. As they walk into the pearly gates, they greet each other like long lost brothers. You don't have to hate your enemies in order to defend yourself from them. You don't have to hate someone to kill them, either in self-defense or in war. The difference was that the Nazi was serving a country that revolved around totalitarianism, imperialism and genocide. I'm quite sure that the Brit, who had his country relentlessly bombed by the Nazi's had plenty of hate for a kraut soldier. |
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CS Lewis said (during WWII) that it's possible that a British soldier and a Nazi soldier, both Christians, meet on the battlefield. They face each other, and at the same moment pull the triggers, killing them both at the same time. Neither one did anything wrong - they both were serving their country. Neither had hate for the other. As they walk into the pearly gates, they greet each other like long lost brothers. You don't have to hate your enemies in order to defend yourself from them. You don't have to hate someone to kill them, either in self-defense or in war. The difference was that the Nazi was serving a country that revolved around totalitarianism, imperialism and genocide. I'm quite sure that the Brit, who had his country relentlessly bombed by the Nazi's had plenty of hate for a kraut soldier. You had the Christmas Truce during World War 1. |
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Clear your minds of hate.
While hate is a natural human tendency, I would view it as a dreadful burden to living. Unless your family has been raped, tortured, and/or murdered by some force of evil, there is little reason for you to hate someone. Nip it in the bud. Life is just too darn short. |
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CS Lewis said (during WWII) that it's possible that a British soldier and a Nazi soldier, both Christians, meet on the battlefield. They face each other, and at the same moment pull the triggers, killing them both at the same time. Neither one did anything wrong - they both were serving their country. Neither had hate for the other. As they walk into the pearly gates, they greet each other like long lost brothers. You don't have to hate your enemies in order to defend yourself from them. You don't have to hate someone to kill them, either in self-defense or in war. The difference was that the Nazi was serving a country that revolved around totalitarianism, imperialism and genocide. I'm quite sure that the Brit, who had his country relentlessly bombed by the Nazi's had plenty of hate for a kraut soldier. Errr... the Brits bombed Germany much more than the other way around. |
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CS Lewis said (during WWII) that it's possible that a British soldier and a Nazi soldier, both Christians, meet on the battlefield. They face each other, and at the same moment pull the triggers, killing them both at the same time. Neither one did anything wrong - they both were serving their country. Neither had hate for the other. As they walk into the pearly gates, they greet each other like long lost brothers. You don't have to hate your enemies in order to defend yourself from them. You don't have to hate someone to kill them, either in self-defense or in war. The difference was that the Nazi was serving a country that revolved around totalitarianism, imperialism and genocide. I'm quite sure that the Brit, who had his country relentlessly bombed by the Nazi's had plenty of hate for a kraut soldier. Errr... the Brits bombed Germany much more than the other way around. Probably because they were trying to prevent Great Britain from becoming property of the third Reich? |
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Hate is a very Biblical.
"I have loved you," says the LORD. But you say, "How have You loved us?" "Was not Esau Jacob's brother?" Declares the LORD "Yet I have loved Jacob; but I have hated Esau, and I have made his mountains a desolation and appointed his inheritance for the jackals of the wilderness." Malachi 1:2-3 Jacob and Esau were twins. Esau was first born, but sold his birthright to Jacob. The descendants of Jacob became Israel and the descendants of Esau became another people who exist to this day and cause all kinds of trouble. Read your Bible, all of the answers are in there. I hate those who hate the Lord. |
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CS Lewis said (during WWII) that it's possible that a British soldier and a Nazi soldier, both Christians, meet on the battlefield. They face each other, and at the same moment pull the triggers, killing them both at the same time. Neither one did anything wrong - they both were serving their country. Neither had hate for the other. As they walk into the pearly gates, they greet each other like long lost brothers. You don't have to hate your enemies in order to defend yourself from them. You don't have to hate someone to kill them, either in self-defense or in war. The difference was that the Nazi was serving a country that revolved around totalitarianism, imperialism and genocide. I'm quite sure that the Brit, who had his country relentlessly bombed by the Nazi's had plenty of hate for a kraut soldier. Errr... the Brits bombed Germany much more than the other way around. The British were just a bit imperialist, too. Just a little bit. |
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CS Lewis said (during WWII) that it's possible that a British soldier and a Nazi soldier, both Christians, meet on the battlefield. They face each other, and at the same moment pull the triggers, killing them both at the same time. Neither one did anything wrong - they both were serving their country. Neither had hate for the other. As they walk into the pearly gates, they greet each other like long lost brothers. You don't have to hate your enemies in order to defend yourself from them. You don't have to hate someone to kill them, either in self-defense or in war. CS Lewis was wrong. The Brit was fighting for his freedom from foreign domination and the survival of his country. The nazi was fighting for domination and the behalf of the spread of nazism and the continuing perpetuation of the atrocities the nazi party perpetrated on human civilization. He wasn't fighting for the survival of his own country until the war his own nazis regime started turned against them. Implying moral equivalency as great equalizer, falls flat. |
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CS Lewis said (during WWII) that it's possible that a British soldier and a Nazi soldier, both Christians, meet on the battlefield. They face each other, and at the same moment pull the triggers, killing them both at the same time. Neither one did anything wrong - they both were serving their country. Neither had hate for the other. As they walk into the pearly gates, they greet each other like long lost brothers. You don't have to hate your enemies in order to defend yourself from them. You don't have to hate someone to kill them, either in self-defense or in war. CS Lewis was wrong. The Brit was fighting for his freedom from foreign domination and the survival of his country. FWIW, C.S. Lewis was a British soldier fighting in trenches in WW1. He has some credibility in regards to why the British were fighting. |
| Everyone is different, and they react to life events based on their own life experiences. My personal beliefs are: One should not hate an entire race or religion based on the actions of a few. Nor should one hate an individual just because he belongs to a particular race or religion. IMO, hate is destructive, and blocks the light of God. That's not to say we should ever be anyone's doormat, either. Just my cent and a half..... |
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There's irrational hate and there's rational hate. One has no reason and is wrong. The other is the result of actions or circumstances that are justifiable. It's not wrong to hate. I hate every single one of those assholes responsible for 9/11. I hate the Taliban for wanting to destroy our country, our way of life, and for wanting to kill us all.
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Is it wrong to hate people that hate us? Or should we just love them and turn the other cheek? Thats basically what I heard a Pastor say the other day. Is he on to something? The original question is a Biblical question. The answer has been given. Romans 12:9 Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. |
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CS Lewis said (during WWII) that it's possible that a British soldier and a Nazi soldier, both Christians, meet on the battlefield. They face each other, and at the same moment pull the triggers, killing them both at the same time. Neither one did anything wrong - they both were serving their country. Neither had hate for the other. As they walk into the pearly gates, they greet each other like long lost brothers. You don't have to hate your enemies in order to defend yourself from them. You don't have to hate someone to kill them, either in self-defense or in war. This |
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Quoted: Quoted: Is it wrong to hate people that hate us? Or should we just love them and turn the other cheek? Thats basically what I heard a Pastor say the other day. Is he on to something? The original question is a Biblical question. The answer has been given. Romans 12:9 Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. Romans 12:9 Hate what is evil My hate list: Jack Kennedy Lyndon Johynson Robert McNamara I believe my short hate list consists only of evil. 5sub |
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Is it wrong to hate people that hate us? Or should we just love them and turn the other cheek? Thats basically what I heard a Pastor say the other day. Is he on to something? The original question is a Biblical question. The answer has been given. Romans 12:9 Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. Romans 12:9 Hate what is evil
My hate list: Jack Kennedy Lyndon Johynson Robert McNamara I believe my short hate list consists only of evil. 5sub You forgot me. 
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is it wrong to hate people that hate us? Or should we just love them and turn the other cheek? Thats basically what I heard a Pastor say the other day. Is he on to something? The original question is a Biblical question. The answer has been given. Romans 12:9 Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. Romans 12:9 Hate what is evil My hate list: Jack Kennedy Lyndon Johynson Robert McNamara I believe my short hate list consists only of evil. 5sub You forgot me. U not even close to making that list !! 
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CS Lewis said (during WWII) that it's possible that a British soldier and a Nazi soldier, both Christians, meet on the battlefield. They face each other, and at the same moment pull the triggers, killing them both at the same time. Neither one did anything wrong - they both were serving their country. Neither had hate for the other. As they walk into the pearly gates, they greet each other like long lost brothers. You don't have to hate your enemies in order to defend yourself from them. You don't have to hate someone to kill them, either in self-defense or in war. The difference was that the Nazi was serving a country that revolved around totalitarianism, imperialism and genocide. I'm quite sure that the Brit, who had his country relentlessly bombed by the Nazi's had plenty of hate for a kraut soldier. Errr... the Brits bombed Germany much more than the other way around. The British were just a bit imperialist, too. Just a little bit. I was just owned. 
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Is it wrong to hate people that hate us? Or should we just love them and turn the other cheek? Thats basically what I heard a Pastor say the other day. Is he on to something? The original question is a Biblical question. The answer has been given. Romans 12:9 Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. Romans 12:9 Hate what is evil
My hate list: Jack Kennedy Lyndon Johynson Robert McNamara I believe my short hate list consists only of evil. 5sub You forgot me.
U not even close to making that list !! Damn. I gotta work harder.
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Hate is just as valid an emotion as love, lust and anger. It has a purpose, and can be put to constructive use in the proper context.
Living based on emotion is, however, no way to go through life. To paraphrase George Michael: "Hate is natural - hate is good Not everybody does it But everybody should Hate is natural - hate is fun Hate is best when it's....one on one one on one" 
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Only you can allow your emotions to cloud rational thought.
The object of your hate is unaffected by your emotion and expends no energy to gain the advantage of clear thinking. Those who carry hate are easily and predictably provoked. Trapping those driven by hate requires only a well directed prod and patience. Many times they'll snare themselves in a trap of their own making. Even more counterproductive, to hate those who aren't aware of our existence. This is as misguided as my undying love for Jennifer Love Hewitt. |