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8/1/2007 9:22:23 AM EDT
There is a DART rail station right next to my office building. Well, just a little while ago I was out front having a smoke and watching the people go by. As I'm sitting there I see a clean looking, casually dressed (not a bum) guy with a rather large backpack standing on the corner right next to the train tracks. The guy sets his backpack on the sidewalk, starts fidgetting around inside it for a minute, then zips it up, runs across the street and out of sight while leaving the backpack sitting there by the tracks.

My heart lept into my throat. There is a police station on the other side of my building, and I started scanning the street for a cop. For a minute I was worried that I had just seen a guy place a bomb next to a train line. After a minute the guy came back, picked up his back pack and headed off. I don't know what he was doing across the street, but he wasn't carrying anything when he ran over there, so I wasn't worried about that.

I guess all this talk about gut feelings and attacks on public transportation lately has me more spooked than I thought.

8/1/2007 9:23:59 AM EDT
[#1]
Messing with a backpack, then running away from it, leaving it untended in a city?
8/1/2007 9:29:00 AM EDT
[#2]
Years ago, I was in Tel Aviv. Watching TV in my hotel room, the Israeli version of Candid Camera came on and one of the skits was a hidden camera watching people react whan an Arab-looking man walks up to a bus stop, sets down a briefcase...then runs like hell!

The audience thought it was hysterical to see people scrambling and running!

As if the Israeli public wasn't jumpy enough, they put this on TV as comedy? I couldn't fucking believe it...
8/1/2007 9:30:18 AM EDT
[#3]


    Sounds like you had a good reaction to me. I would have been hunting a LEO also. Along with de-assing the area.



8/1/2007 9:30:51 AM EDT
[#4]
lucky some body didnt shoot his ass
8/1/2007 9:31:30 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Years ago, I was in Tel Aviv. Watching TV in my hotel room, the Israeli version of Candid Camera came on and one of the skits was a hidden camera watching people react whan an Arab-looking man walks up to a bus stop, sets down a briefcase...than runs like hell!

The audience thought it was hysterical to see people scrambling and running!

As if the Israeli public wasn't jumpy enough, they put this on TV as comedy? I couldn't fucking believe it...


Well it is funny.

Do that around here and you would probably be arrested.
8/1/2007 9:32:38 AM EDT
[#6]
In DFW, he's lucky someone didn't steal it!!
8/1/2007 9:32:39 AM EDT
[#7]
Interesting. Could it be a dry run? I would keep an eye out for similar behavior and if you see anymore of it alert the authorities.
8/1/2007 9:34:51 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
In DFW, he's lucky someone didn't steal it!!


Which is one of the reasons I was worried.

Most people in their right minds wouldn't have left their bag of stuff sitting on a street corner and walked away. It just seemed real fishy to me.
8/1/2007 9:35:09 AM EDT
[#9]
I work in public transit.


We are always jumpy.



From what I've heard, the weirdbeards have an affection for transit trains/buses.

8/1/2007 9:41:48 AM EDT
[#10]
Wierdbeards?

First time I have heard that one.

Jumpiness is not a bad trait.  The worst case is reporting what ends up as a "misunderstanding", while the best case is averting a tragedy.

I admit that I engage in profiling when I try to see what the drivers of tanker trucks look like when I am on the highway.  Some good old boy chewing away on his skoal never looked so good!
8/1/2007 9:41:58 AM EDT
[#11]
I took my kids to the local McDonald's last week.  About a dozen pakistani looking males from 20-40 gathered in the back of the seating areas that had its own door.  They closed the door.  I am sure it was nothing, but it was kind of weird.  

8/1/2007 9:42:51 AM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Messing with a backpack, then running away from it, leaving it untended in a city?


I was standing in line at the Post Office a while back, after awhile I noticed a backpack on the floor about ten feet away. Long minutes dragged by, the line moved, none of the people in front of me seemed "attached" to it, finally I was right next to it.

I couldn't help but think "is it going to go boom?"

I was about to take action when some ditsy flower child looking woman picked it up on her way out.

F#@king empty headed idiot!
8/1/2007 9:43:30 AM EDT
[#13]
I would have been suspicious too.

8/1/2007 9:44:02 AM EDT
[#14]

Is anyone else getting jumpy?


We all need to be.
8/1/2007 9:45:57 AM EDT
[#15]
You should have unloaded the clip on his ass when he started to run away from it.

Sure it might have been nothing, but no reason to take chances.
8/1/2007 9:49:50 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Years ago, I was in Tel Aviv. Watching TV in my hotel room, the Israeli version of Candid Camera came on and one of the skits was a hidden camera watching people react whan an Arab-looking man walks up to a bus stop, sets down a briefcase...than runs like hell!

The audience thought it was hysterical to see people scrambling and running!

As if the Israeli public wasn't jumpy enough, they put this on TV as comedy? I couldn't fucking believe it...


Interesting. I once spoke with an Israeli soldier after 911. He claimed that shit like that isn't taken lightly in Israel. He said the general public is on point if anything suspicious looking is around it gets reported immediately and the people evacuate the area.
8/1/2007 9:49:59 AM EDT
[#17]
years ago (pre-9-11) I set down my soft sided briefcase outside the doors to the ATF office to use the pay phone down the hallway. 3 agents came back from lunch, one noticed the pack and all three stopped with looks. Before I could explain (I was out of view in a cubbyhole where the phone was) one of them reached forwarded and POKED my briefcase. I came up and said it was mine and they sort of nodded and went back into the office to continue whatever creepy assignments they had. I am guessing poking  a potential bomb is a bad idea, but they are the experts.
8/1/2007 9:50:47 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

    Sounds like you had a good reaction to me. I would have been hunting a LEO also. Along with de-assing the area.





yeah, good reaction.  im getting jumpy from just reading the thread.  im always looking over my shoulder and scanning the area.  always follow the gut!
8/1/2007 9:52:14 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
You should have unloaded the clip on his ass when he started to run away from it.

Sure it might have been nothing, but no reason to take chances.


8/1/2007 9:56:46 AM EDT
[#20]
That is not jumpiness Steve... Just good situational awareness.

People hastily running from their property for no good reason is reason to be wary at very least.
8/1/2007 9:56:51 AM EDT
[#21]
correct me if im wrong, but i remember hearing a couple weeks ago that there is a threat of poss terrorist doing "dry runs" on points of interest. it may pay to report this kind of activity when its noticed.
8/1/2007 9:58:47 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
You should have unloaded the clip on his ass when he started to run away from it.

Sure it might have been nothing, but no reason to take chances.


is your CCW a Garand?
8/1/2007 9:58:56 AM EDT
[#23]

Aimless:
I am guessing poking  a potential bomb is a bad idea, but they are the experts.



Remember the story about the guy who shook the hell out of an abandoned brief case (suit case?) and said "Don't worry - I'm with the NYCPD Bomb Squad"?


8/1/2007 9:58:59 AM EDT
[#24]
Been jumpy for almost six years now.
8/1/2007 10:09:35 AM EDT
[#25]
There is nothing we can do to prevent future attacks.

We can be vigilant, and stop a few, but there will be attacks.
8/1/2007 10:11:24 AM EDT
[#26]
Some jackass drove right up to my guard shack in off-base housing during the fist gulf war.  He hopped out and ran away.

Stupid SOB probably never realized just how close he came to getting a load of 00 buck.  Turned out that he was just a fool who was going for a jog.

8/1/2007 10:20:35 AM EDT
[#27]
8/1/2007 10:24:49 AM EDT
[#28]
am i the only one who would have call the law

AND got the fuck outta there?

good situational awareness by the way
8/1/2007 10:27:21 AM EDT
[#29]
SS02, My thoughts exactly on the dry run thing
8/1/2007 10:29:57 AM EDT
[#30]
Good awareness, Steve.

I try to constantly be on the lookout for unusual stuff.

HH
8/1/2007 10:37:16 AM EDT
[#31]
Again, good thinking, Steve.

My own experience with this was at an Army school several years ago.  The classroom was locked, and the instructor showed up and realized he had forgotten his key.  He left his briefcase with us (more than a dozen students) and went to retrieve the key.

When he returned, he jumped dead in our s**t for just letting someone set a briefcase down by the classroom and walk away.

At the time we were all just dumbfounded that anyone could be such an idiot.  It's not like we didn't see him every frigging day or he didn't have access to the classroom in our absence.  In retrospect I kind of wished we could have anonymously alerted security so we could play an object lesson game of our own, but who could have known how stupid this guy was?

Your situation was nothing like this, though.
8/1/2007 10:47:43 AM EDT
[#32]
Dry run.

Anyone remember the RoP fuckers who got on the school buses and rode them around?

I don't.
8/1/2007 10:49:12 AM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:
years ago (pre-9-11) I set down my soft sided briefcase outside the doors to the ATF office to use the pay phone down the hallway. 3 agents came back from lunch, one noticed the pack and all three stopped with looks. Before I could explain (I was out of view in a cubbyhole where the phone was) one of them reached forwarded and POKED my briefcase. I came up and said it was mine and they sort of nodded and went back into the office to continue whatever creepy assignments they had. I am guessing poking  a potential bomb is a bad idea, but they are the experts.





SUUUUUUUURE they are.
8/1/2007 10:55:42 AM EDT
[#34]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You should have unloaded the clip on his ass when he started to run away from it.

Sure it might have been nothing, but no reason to take chances.


www.germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50098543/Clip___Binder___Bulldog___Magnetic_Bulldog_and_Spring_Letter__.jpg


8/1/2007 10:57:51 AM EDT
[#35]
I'm jumpy but to be honest groups like MS13 have me way jumpier than the threat of Islamic terrorists.  Seeing groups of these dead-enders hanging out in front of the doors to the mall make me want to call and report them to someone, the only problem is, outside of the local 88'ers no one else around here seems to give a crap if latino gang members from a foreign country congregate in front of malls.
8/1/2007 10:58:03 AM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Dry run.

Anyone remember the RoP fuckers who got on the school buses and rode them around?

I don't.


You don't?
8/1/2007 11:18:27 AM EDT
[#37]

Quoted:
You should have unloaded the clip on his ass when he started to run away from it.

Sure it might have been nothing, but no reason to take chances.


The OP packs a Garand?

ETA:  Dangit, I got beat.  Oh, and I'll be paranoid as well and assume it was a dry run.  I'll bet his cell is happy to know that nobody gave a crap.
8/1/2007 11:23:22 AM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You should have unloaded the clip on his ass when he started to run away from it.

Sure it might have been nothing, but no reason to take chances.


The OP packs a Garand?




Yeah, and it's easier than you would think. Most people just assume that I'm happy to see them.

8/1/2007 11:25:41 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You should have unloaded the clip on his ass when he started to run away from it.

Sure it might have been nothing, but no reason to take chances.


is your CCW a Garand?


Nah to big, he must be backing a Jungle Enfield.
8/1/2007 11:26:04 AM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
Years ago, I was in Tel Aviv. Watching TV in my hotel room, the Israeli version of Candid Camera came on and one of the skits was a hidden camera watching people react whan an Arab-looking man walks up to a bus stop, sets down a briefcase...then runs like hell!

The audience thought it was hysterical to see people scrambling and running!

As if the Israeli public wasn't jumpy enough, they put this on TV as comedy? I couldn't fucking believe it...


I've seen that show.  Damn... just damn.
8/1/2007 11:26:58 AM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You should have unloaded the clip on his ass when he started to run away from it.

Sure it might have been nothing, but no reason to take chances.


is your CCW a Garand?






Does anybody know where I can by an M1 receiver papered as a pistol?
8/1/2007 11:30:28 AM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:
There is a DART rail station right next to my office building. Well, just a little while ago I was out front having a smoke and watching the people go by. As I'm sitting there I see a clean looking, casually dressed (not a bum) guy with a rather large backpack standing on the corner right next to the train tracks. The guy sets his backpack on the sidewalk, starts fidgetting around inside it for a minute, then zips it up, runs across the street and out of sight while leaving the backpack sitting there by the tracks.

My heart lept into my throat. There is a police station on the other side of my building, and I started scanning the street for a cop. For a minute I was worried that I had just seen a guy place a bomb next to a train line. After a minute the guy came back, picked up his back pack and headed off. I don't know what he was doing across the street, but he wasn't carrying anything when he ran over there, so I wasn't worried about that.

I guess all this talk about gut feelings and attacks on public transportation lately has me more spooked than I thought.




the timer or cell phone receiver didna work.. the bomba failed.. he came back to get it so he can fix the issue and try again..
8/1/2007 11:42:24 AM EDT
[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You should have unloaded the clip on his ass when he started to run away from it.

Sure it might have been nothing, but no reason to take chances.


is your CCW a Garand?


Could be a Mauser C96
8/1/2007 11:46:46 AM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
You should have unloaded the clip on his ass when he started to run away from it.

Sure it might have been nothing, but no reason to take chances.


www.germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50098543/Clip___Binder___Bulldog___Magnetic_Bulldog_and_Spring_Letter__.jpg


i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa117/DesignatedMarksman/clipandmag.jpg


Technically, BQ is a catalog, not a magazine although it does have a few articles. Its main purpose is to sell cool stuff.
8/1/2007 11:52:09 AM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You should have unloaded the clip on his ass when he started to run away from it.

Sure it might have been nothing, but no reason to take chances.


is your CCW a Garand?


Nah, its a Glock, bought it cause it's ceramic and goes right thru a metal detector.  
8/1/2007 11:56:32 AM EDT
[#46]
That's not "jumpy" - That's situational awareness.  You kept your cool, you analyzed the potential threat, and debriefed yourself for an evaluation of other possible outcomes for the future.  It's what we should all be doing.
8/1/2007 12:04:58 PM EDT
[#47]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You should have unloaded the clip on his ass when he started to run away from it.

Sure it might have been nothing, but no reason to take chances.


is your CCW a Garand?


I'm thinking it's more likely a broom handled Mauser.  You charge the magazine with clips.
8/1/2007 12:06:11 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
Years ago, I was in Tel Aviv. Watching TV in my hotel room, the Israeli version of Candid Camera came on and one of the skits was a hidden camera watching people react whan an Arab-looking man walks up to a bus stop, sets down a briefcase...then runs like hell!

The audience thought it was hysterical to see people scrambling and running!

As if the Israeli public wasn't jumpy enough, they put this on TV as comedy? I couldn't fucking believe it...

You know, actually I find that absolutely, utterly cool that Israelis would react like that. With all the terrorism and crap they've put up with for so long, to be able to laugh about it shows, to me, an amazing resilience and it's a fantastic way, as a culture, to say *SCREW YOU* to terrorists!
8/1/2007 12:11:54 PM EDT
[#49]
Not jumpy,

ALERT

I would have been suspicious too.

In 2003, I called U-Hual once to report a guy that was loading five 55 gallon drums of diesel into a U-HUAL moving truck.

After giving the manager the plate number, he told me that, as I suspected, moving such material was a violation of thier policies, as the truck was not ventalated. I gave him a call back number and he said he would let the proper authorities know.

I probably wouldn't have reported him had he not been in "traditional" Muslim garb. Oh well

I guess nothing big ever happened as I never heard about anything.