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9/17/2014 11:43:22 PM EDT

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/09/17/suspect-idd-in-pennsylvania-trooper-ambush-sharp-shooter-who-doesnt-miss/

Authorities were led to Frein after a resident who was walking his dog in a wooded area 2 miles from the barracks Monday spotted a 2001 Jeep lightly submerged in a pond and called 911. Police said they found shell casings inside the vehicle that matched those found at the shooting scene.

Investigators also found Frein's Social Security card, a Pennsylvania Game Commission range permit, camouflage face paint, a black-hooded sweatshirt, two empty rifle cases and military gear, state police Commissioner Frank Noonan said.
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Just wondering out loud here, but this guy either A: is the dumbest fuck ever or B: is being setup perfectly.  seriously who commits a crime and then leaves a perfect collection of evidence conveniently not really dumped (lightly submerged?) - fuck I dont think I could even find my social security card if pressed to, and this guy took his to the crime scene to leave behind?  seriously.  and what would be the point if he beleived the jeep to be gone forever - to hide his social security card ?  seriously.. do people think this way - it just seems very very convenient..   what am I missing here?

9/17/2014 11:46:07 PM EDT
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Mentally ill people do a lot of shit that doesn't make sense.
9/17/2014 11:47:12 PM EDT
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Generally, criminals are fucking stupid, regardless of motivation.
9/18/2014 12:15:41 AM EDT
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That is kind of bizarre.

There are lots of places to ditch a car in that area where it would not be found by some guy walking his dog. A jeep would make it that much harder to find. There are old tracks and little gorges where people don't bother to go.

Also, what is a Pennsylvania Game Commission Range Permit? I used to shoot at those ranges all the time. They never required a permit when I shot at them. Maybe that's recent.

You could disappear for a while in Lord's Valley, though I wouldn't want to try it this time of year. Lots of hunters will be either bowhunting or scouting.

Is this guy a survivalist or a tv news survivalist?
9/18/2014 12:20:11 AM EDT
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Pretty much this.

I too thought it was almost a little too "convenient" that they found his SS card in the vehicle when I heard about that, but people who are insane tend to do things that are, well, insane.
9/18/2014 12:25:32 AM EDT
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Bingo.  Don't waste your time trying to rationalize the thought process and decisions of a grossly irrational person.  Crazy people do crazy shit.
9/18/2014 12:32:33 AM EDT
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Dude is an Obama voter so, that is totally normal behavior.
9/18/2014 12:40:08 AM EDT
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Criminals are stupid.  Or maybe the illuminati is involved somehow.  

Either option sounds totally plausible.  
9/18/2014 12:44:51 AM EDT
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Wasn't the jeep his? Why would he bother cleaning it out, if it was found they would still link him to the crime even without the evidence.
9/18/2014 12:52:59 AM EDT
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riddle me this then - had he not just driven the fucking jeep back home and made dinner wouldn't the investigators basically have jack and shit to go on?  I guess I didn't make the point clearly - by dumping the evidence he provided the evidence.  he could have gone home and put his shit in the safe and afaik this would be some giant mystery right now..
9/18/2014 9:03:28 AM EDT
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Also, what is a Pennsylvania Game Commission Range Permit? I used to shoot at those ranges all the time. They never required a permit when I shot at them. Maybe that's recent.

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think it went into effect last year. Basically in order to use the game land ranges you either need a valid hunting license or a permit. The thought process from what ive heard is to help keep some of the riff raff off the ranges. gang bangers and what not who would come and just shoot the hell out of the target holders and basically trash them
9/18/2014 7:48:03 PM EDT
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If he had a new fake identity and was planning to leave the area or country with a buddy with whom he a robbed a bank with earlier in the day, what would it matter?  I'm still not convinced that there isn't some connection between the two events taking place on the same day and within 50 miles of each other.
9/18/2014 7:51:39 PM EDT
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Of course he was a patsy. He found out that the moon landings were a hoax, and filmed on a Hollywood backlot. In order to stop him before he could spill the beans, the government - always waiting for its main chance - killed those cops and framed this guy to discredit him, and have him killed off.

9/18/2014 7:52:10 PM EDT
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Above.
9/18/2014 7:57:03 PM EDT
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He's a stupid shitbag who lost his shit when he got stuck and his plan crumbled. Fuck that deadeyed waste of sperm and anyone including any members who sympathize with him