[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Is this for real? $800 Luger repro (Page 1 of 3)
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If they'd do a reproduction of a lange pistole 08, I'd buy one even if I knew I'd need to spend a ton of time tinkering to get it reliable. Or better yet, do a carbine ready version so I can SBR it. If they are making the action, might as well do the versions that originals are unobtainable for most people 
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Quoted: That looks just like an East German refurb. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/63423/E9A60E16-508C-452E-BA18-F4C04BD57BB1_jpe-2525810.JPG For an $800 shooter? I'll take it. |
| Not a Luger, but I have a Tisas 1911. It is TIGHT. It's not reliable yet, but friends who own them tell me they shoot the shit out of their Tisas 1911's and they are good to go. This P08 clone might be a worthy firearm if it's an accurate reproduction right down to the metallurgy, manufacturing methods, etc., i.e., not an MIM-part filled lookalike. I don't think Tisas uses MIM parts, but I'm always suspicious of low-priced firearms that sell for an arm and a leg everywhere else. |
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Interesting if it's actually in production!! I'd be curious to know how they managed to keep the price point that low. It's not a design that lends itself well to modern manufacturing techniques. There have been some repro lugers in the past, the Mitchell Arms stainless model from the 90's comes to mind, and there are some .45 repros as well, but historically you were looking at like $1,000 for a Mitchell or $400 for a shooter original back then, and the .45 repops are like $4,000-ish. Now that originals, even shooters, are getting up in price, they may have a market for an affordable copy. The big question is whether it runs. Lugers are really touchy about proper springing in the mainspring, magazine, etc.; it all has to work together. |
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Quoted: Not a Luger, but I have a Tisas 1911. It is TIGHT. It's not reliable yet, but friends who own them tell me they shoot the shit out of their Tisas 1911's and they are good to go. This P08 clone might be a worthy firearm if it's an accurate reproduction right down to the metallurgy, manufacturing methods, etc., i.e., not an MIM-part filled lookalike. I don't think Tisas uses MIM parts, but I'm always suspicious of low-priced firearms that sell for an arm and a leg everywhere else. I’m not sure that Tisas is the manufacturer. But this company lkcillc did import Tisas at one time. |
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Quoted: What took fitting in the early 1900s is trivial nowadays even by drunk Turkish cnc operators. Quoted: Quoted: The Lugers used fitted parts right? I wonder how this translates in a modern production environment. What took fitting in the early 1900s is trivial nowadays even by drunk Turkish cnc operators. Not exactly. The whole print has to be reengineered to tighter tolerances that still allow it to work. Otherwise, you either still have CNC'd parts that have to be hand fitted, or you have a gun so loose it ratttles & may not run. |
| Sometimes you can get lucky, especially with Imperial lugers since everyone wants a Nazi luger. My 1917 Erfurt with 1920 double date was around $850 after fees and shipping. The gun matches and works fine, just the magazine doesn't match. I can't remember if some internal parts are non matching but I got it as a shooter. |
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Quoted: Sometimes you can get lucky, especially with Imperial lugers since everyone wants a Nazi luger. My 1917 Erfurt with 1920 double date was around $850 after fees and shipping. The gun matches and works fine, just the magazine doesn't match. I can't remember if some internal parts are non matching but I got it as a shooter. This. I got my Erfurt turd for all of some $600 and change a few years back. She ain't perfect and had a barrel swap at some point, but I just wanted a shooter grade example so it fit the bill and was priced right. Attached File |
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They do the longer Artillery model too for $900. link to Artillery model |
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Quoted: holy shit I can build this and not feel bad! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14562/3ace54be3f2a881d92d1f4b09d9b9eed-1340939.png ETA: I know I've blown money with you on much dumber shit 
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Q2 next year? I'll have my wallet ready. |
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Neat. I'd buy an $800 shooter Luger repro... so I could shoot it. I ended up finding a post-war Mauser Luger that is pretty neat, very clean and pretty much unfired. I only paid $1700 for it. :/ Quoted: holy shit I can build this and not feel bad! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14562/3ace54be3f2a881d92d1f4b09d9b9eed-1340939.png Hahaha HELL YEAH! |
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Quoted: Now that would be really cool..... now whether it will be the same quality, thats another story..... I dont like the plastic grips....I guess wood is too expensive..... Wood would be nicer, but it looks like the Germans started using plastic grips during WWII. We did the same with 1911 grips. |
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Made in Houston TX by High Standard https://highstandardfirearmsusa.com/german-luger%E2%84%A2-p08  |
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Quoted: Not a Luger, but I have a Tisas 1911. It is TIGHT. It's not reliable yet, but friends who own them tell me they shoot the shit out of their Tisas 1911's and they are good to go. This P08 clone might be a worthy firearm if it's an accurate reproduction right down to the metallurgy, manufacturing methods, etc., i.e., not an MIM-part filled lookalike. I don't think Tisas uses MIM parts, but I'm always suspicious of low-priced firearms that sell for an arm and a leg everywhere else. This, and it was $300. Incredible craftsmanship. I’ll get one of these Tugers if they come down to $500ish. |
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Quoted: The quality just cant be there for that price, Lugers were made with high quality standards that would even rival todays technology...... they were just too expensive to make then and will be now too if your wanting quality.... just my opinion That’s nonsense…. |
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Quoted: Not exactly. The whole print has to be reengineered to tighter tolerances that still allow it to work. Otherwise, you either still have CNC'd parts that have to be hand fitted, or you have a gun so loose it ratttles & may not run. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Lugers used fitted parts right? I wonder how this translates in a modern production environment. What took fitting in the early 1900s is trivial nowadays even by drunk Turkish cnc operators. Not exactly. The whole print has to be reengineered to tighter tolerances that still allow it to work. Otherwise, you either still have CNC'd parts that have to be hand fitted, or you have a gun so loose it ratttles & may not run. Absolutely but one guy who knows what he is doing could do exactly that. Are there any Turkish John Browning types? |
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Quoted: Absolutely but one guy who knows what he is doing could do exactly that. Are there any Turkish John Browning types? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Lugers used fitted parts right? I wonder how this translates in a modern production environment. What took fitting in the early 1900s is trivial nowadays even by drunk Turkish cnc operators. Not exactly. The whole print has to be reengineered to tighter tolerances that still allow it to work. Otherwise, you either still have CNC'd parts that have to be hand fitted, or you have a gun so loose it ratttles & may not run. Absolutely but one guy who knows what he is doing could do exactly that. Are there any Turkish John Browning types? I dunno, but they seem to like him. They're making a better copy of the HiPower than FN is, they're making a decent 1911 as well and a CZ-75 clone. If they can do those, it's not a leap of faith that they could make a decent Luger for a reasonable price. Then CNN will plant a hidden camera at the Tisas factory & Biden will impose child-labor sanctions on Turkish firearms. |
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Lugers aren't magical or something. They are parts put together like any other handgun. They were doing it over 100 years ago. Its not new technology by any means. Comparison: Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: The quality just cant be there for that price, Lugers were made with high quality standards that would even rival todays technology...... they were just too expensive to make then and will be now too if your wanting quality.... just my opinion |