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4/16/2013 6:02:09 AM EDT
I've never worked a menial, retail job before nor have I worked for minimum wage. Recently moved and trying not to be a bum while I look for better employement.

The question is: Tie or no tie?

::ETA::

Wore the tie. Hired.
4/16/2013 6:04:20 AM EDT
[#1]
Are you applying for a clerk or management position?  I would personally skip the tie for a clerk role.
4/16/2013 6:04:35 AM EDT
[#2]
I am under the impression that a tie is always appropriate for an interview.
4/16/2013 6:04:38 AM EDT
[#3]
They don't really care as long as you don't look like a bum, be prepared for a bunch of situational questions about providing great guest service and all that bullshit.
4/16/2013 6:05:18 AM EDT
[#4]
Find out what the appropriate dress for the job is and then dress one step above it. I'd wear a tie. If you're over dressed you can remove it. Not so the other way. Good luck!
4/16/2013 6:06:21 AM EDT
[#5]
I'd say a tie.  And a long sleeve shirt.  Please, Lord, no short sleeve shirts and ties.
4/16/2013 6:07:25 AM EDT
[#6]
Non-management position.

When you apply you choose three areas. It will be Back Room, Merch Flow (working EARLY in the morn) or Asset Protection (hiding and spying).
4/16/2013 6:10:37 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
I'd say a tie.  And a long sleeve shirt.  Please, Lord, no short sleeve shirts and ties.



Short sleeve white shirt with clip-on tie!

Be sure your shirt is thin enough that they can see your wife-beater tee shirt underneath it too.







j/k

4/16/2013 6:12:46 AM EDT
[#8]
I say wear khakis and a polo.



Show them that you come pre-assimilated.


 
4/16/2013 6:17:02 AM EDT
[#9]
I say wear the tie. Everyone knows you don't wear a tie at Target. By wearing one, it shows you are serious about wanting the job.
4/16/2013 6:23:24 AM EDT
[#10]
Tie... Always
4/16/2013 6:25:38 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
They don't really care as long as you don't look like a bum, be prepared for a bunch of situational questions about providing great guest service and all that bullshit.


Gah, hate that crap. Typical interview stuff though.

Going with the tie. Minus whale. Makes me look spiffy.
4/16/2013 6:31:44 AM EDT
[#12]



Quoted:


I've never worked a menial, retail job before nor have I worked for minimum wage. Recently moved and trying not to be a bum while I look for better employement.



The question is: Tie or no tie?


Nice jeans and a good t shirt. That's all I wear to minimum wage job interviews. I have an 80% success rate.



I've never worked for more than a couple dollars above minimum wage though so my advice my not be valid



 
4/16/2013 6:34:47 AM EDT
[#13]
I worked for big box retailers for years, both in general manager and multi-unit manager capacities.  I interviewed thousands of people over the years.  

Wear the tie.
4/16/2013 6:37:24 AM EDT
[#14]
Wear the tie.  Chuck the "this is just a temp gig while I look for better" attitude.  They can smell it.  A lot of retail managers might appreciate getting a higher cut of human resources but they don't like turnover and they really don't want to risk hiring a prima donna or someone who will immediately be after their job.
4/16/2013 6:41:06 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I am under the impression that a tie is always appropriate for an interview.


I agree.  I'd rather go in overdressed than under.
4/16/2013 6:41:29 AM EDT
[#16]





Quoted:



I worked for big box retailers for years, both in general manager and multi-unit manager capacities.  I interviewed thousands of people over the years.  





Wear the tie.



QFT.





People look down on retail, but you can make surprisingly good money at it if you treat it like a real job and show some initiative.


Most people don't want to move up the retail ladder; they view it as just a temp position, and that's fine, but if you make your intentions to advance known and prove yourself, you can take home a pretty good salary.





I was making about $70k at 26 years old after bonuses as a retail manager...if I'd have stayed with the company I would most likely have my own store now making 6 digits.
Speed





 
4/16/2013 6:41:48 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Tie... Always


4/16/2013 6:43:19 AM EDT
[#18]
Mesh tac vest, no shirt.
4/16/2013 6:44:06 AM EDT
[#19]
Doesn't matter...

I'm not even kidding. I saw a son of a bitch walk in with a hoodie and jeans and walk out with a job offer. That being said, tie.


All of that being said, the questions you'll be asked are all fucking retarded and have nothing to do with you or your work experience. It'll be shit like "tell me about a time when you had to work with a group to accomplish a task?"
4/16/2013 6:44:35 AM EDT
[#20]
Tuxedo
4/16/2013 6:45:22 AM EDT
[#21]
Wear a tie.  From Walmart.

Assert your dominance early.

4/16/2013 6:45:30 AM EDT
[#22]
I wouldn't wear a tie.  It's Target.  Wear blue jeans and a t-shirt.

4/16/2013 6:47:27 AM EDT
[#23]

QFT.

People look down on retail, but you can make surprisingly good money at it if you treat it like a real job and show some initiative.
 



Not at target you don't. If you don't come in as a manager, you're more likely to win the lotto than work your way up to a management position. I wish I was kidding, or even remotely exaggerative, but  them's the breaks.
4/16/2013 6:50:21 AM EDT
[#24]
Suit up every time. no matter the job.
4/16/2013 6:51:23 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Non-management position.

When you apply you choose three areas. It will be Back Room, Merch Flow (working EARLY in the morn) or Asset Protection (hiding and spying).


Shoot me an email. I know of at least a couple jobs for quite a bit more than minimum wage if you don't mind getting dirty.
4/16/2013 6:52:21 AM EDT
[#26]



Quoted:





QFT.



People look down on retail, but you can make surprisingly good money at it if you treat it like a real job and show some initiative.

 






Not at target you don't. If you don't come in as a manager, you're more likely to win the lotto than work your way up to a management position. I wish I was kidding, or even remotely exaggerative, but  them's the breaks.


I don't know much about how Target promotes, but generally speaking, retailers promote from within.



I might be looking for a retail job soon myself...I'll apply for management positions, but if the company looks good, I'd start at a sales position and work my way up if I had to.





Speed





 
4/16/2013 6:52:36 AM EDT
[#27]
If you want the job you will wear a Gucci or Newman brand suit.   If you are aiming for a supervisory position then a Stuart Hughes is in order.
4/16/2013 6:54:00 AM EDT
[#28]
Always dress your best. If nothing else, it's an excuse to look good
4/16/2013 6:54:43 AM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Non-management position.

When you apply you choose three areas. It will be Back Room, Merch Flow (working EARLY in the morn) or Asset Protection (hiding and spying).



Of those three, push for flow. Coming in at 4 is a bag of dicks, but you make more, don't have to deal with customers 90% of the time, and flow teams are generally laid back and not politically correct, so you won't have to worry about shit canned if you call someone a fucker. They'll just respond by calling you a motherfucker.

Quoted:


I don't know much about how Target promotes, but generally speaking, retailers promote from within.

I might be looking for a retail job soon myself...I'll apply for management positions, but if the company looks good, I'd start at a sales position and work my way up if I had to.


Speed

 


The rule of thumb is that if most companies do something one way, target does it the complete opposite way. If you aren't brought on as an ETL, even if you have a Bachelors (required to be an etl), it's very hard to work up to an ETL, and even if you do the pay is less than if you were brought on from outside the company.  Same applies with a regular TL position. There were tons of qualified people at my store... but no, management hired one of the vendors for a team lead spot. There's a reason people are quitting my store left and right now.
4/16/2013 8:57:45 AM EDT
[#30]
Thanks for all of the advice and even the inside info. I wore the tie. I'm hired for Back Room which will be ideal for me. Mostly independent work.

Pay is terrible but it will pay some bills and the store is really close to home so no commute really. The HR ETL guy said he worked overnight flow or logistics for a year and a half so he go promoted somehow. That or he transitioned to HR, don't know.

Either way the two guys I interviewed with seemed cool a Team Leader and the ETL of Logistics. Was nice not to interview with a bunch of females for a change.
4/16/2013 9:04:49 AM EDT
[#31]
Quoted:
I've never worked a menial, retail job before nor have I worked for minimum wage. Recently moved and trying not to be a bum while I look for better employement.

The question is: Tie or no tie?


At every job interview I have ever been on, I present myself in a way that makes me look like I fit in with the group of people who work there.  Grounds maintenence at a golf course?  T-shirt, jeans,and I didn't even shave..lol  Job in an office?  Business casual with a tie.  Retail business but at district level?  Business casual, no tie. Etc, etc, etc.  It always turned out I was dressed pretty much the same as the interviewer.

Recently interviewed (and got hired) at Lowes for a part time job.  I just wore a decent button down collared shirt and jeans.  Nothing fancy.

For a little bullshit retail job, I would never wear a tie.  Getting all dressed up for those interviews just screams "overqualified" and they won't hire you because they think you will bail in no time for a better job.  

Wearing a tie to those interviews isn't going to result in "well, you applied for cashier, but how you like to be the store manager instead?" so just don't bother doing it.  Dress to fit in, present yourself as someone they would want to work with.

I can't even remember the last time I interviewed for a job and didn't get it.
4/16/2013 9:49:52 AM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
I've never worked a menial, retail job before nor have I worked for minimum wage. Recently moved and trying not to be a bum while I look for better employement.

The question is: Tie or no tie?



Wear a Tie and Jacket.  I've been using a Zip Tie.

4/16/2013 10:11:56 AM EDT
[#33]
Went to an interview once just after HS - simple labor assembly job - I show with tan slacks, shirt and tie.  Just like Dad always insisted.

The location manager (in work clothes - embroidered name tag) takes one look at me and says, "Son, you know what kind of job this is?  You're gonna get dirty..."  Like I thought I was interviewing for a business position.

I got the job and worked among some of the roughest people I've ever worked with -drug use, alcohol use, fights, etc.  One day I'm watching the news and see a near-by PD walking a white guy out of a trailer park in handcuffs.  Apparently he had just knifed his girlfriend to death.  I sit up and say, "Hey!  I work with that guy!"

Oh the stories...
4/16/2013 8:12:24 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Thanks for all of the advice and even the inside info. I wore the tie. I'm hired for Back Room which will be ideal for me. Mostly independent work.

Pay is terrible but it will pay some bills and the store is really close to home so no commute really. The HR ETL guy said he worked overnight flow or logistics for a year and a half so he go promoted somehow. That or he transitioned to HR, don't know.

Either way the two guys I interviewed with seemed cool a Team Leader and the ETL of Logistics. Was nice not to interview with a bunch of females for a change.



Second best position of the three you applied for. Wait until you drive that crown though. It's like trying to corral a land whale, which is scary when you're trying to take down a pallet that weighs thousands of pounds.
4/16/2013 8:32:30 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Thanks for all of the advice and even the inside info. I wore the tie. I'm hired for Back Room which will be ideal for me. Mostly independent work.

Pay is terrible but it will pay some bills and the store is really close to home so no commute really. The HR ETL guy said he worked overnight flow or logistics for a year and a half so he go promoted somehow. That or he transitioned to HR, don't know.

Either way the two guys I interviewed with seemed cool a Team Leader and the ETL of Logistics. Was nice not to interview with a bunch of females for a change.



Second best position of the three you applied for. Wait until you drive that crown though. It's like trying to corral a land whale, which is scary when you're trying to take down a pallet that weighs thousands of pounds.


I always thought the Crown equipment was the easiest to drive and the controls were the best laid out. Yale is ok, but the controls take a little getting used to and Raymond is a ginormous piece of shit.
4/16/2013 8:38:53 PM EDT
[#36]
In my early years I went from a 42K/yr job to a 65K/yr job because I was the only guy who wore the appropriate attire to the interview.
4/16/2013 8:48:39 PM EDT
[#37]
walk over in their men's department. pick out a nice tie. find mirror and tie your borrowed tie. go to interview. when complete, return tie to the rack.





4/16/2013 8:52:16 PM EDT
[#38]
Was it a blue tie, or red?
4/16/2013 8:52:40 PM EDT
[#39]
I've got my fingers crossed that you get a better job soon OP. I got a receding hairline in college because my job was so shitty. I've got a whole head of hair now.
4/16/2013 8:53:00 PM EDT
[#40]
It has been my experience that being on-time, clean, and well dressed play a big part in things, and it is sad that so many people manage to miss this important point, or even willfully ignore it - even more so that managers have to spend so much time trying to find it. I once got fired from one job, and then hired at a different company a few months later by the same man who fired me - solely for the reason that I was one of the few people he knew(and was available) that would always show up on time and wearing clean clothes(that was an odd place, they had a lot of problems with people not showing up for work). That said, once they weed out the stinky nutjobs, by far it is a cheerful outgoing attitude that will keep the interview going in the right direction. Right now the biggest problem with things is actually GETTING an interview...




 
4/17/2013 12:36:51 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Thanks for all of the advice and even the inside info. I wore the tie. I'm hired for Back Room which will be ideal for me. Mostly independent work.

Pay is terrible but it will pay some bills and the store is really close to home so no commute really. The HR ETL guy said he worked overnight flow or logistics for a year and a half so he go promoted somehow. That or he transitioned to HR, don't know.

Either way the two guys I interviewed with seemed cool a Team Leader and the ETL of Logistics. Was nice not to interview with a bunch of females for a change.



Second best position of the three you applied for. Wait until you drive that crown though. It's like trying to corral a land whale, which is scary when you're trying to take down a pallet that weighs thousands of pounds.


I assume the best would have been AP. I think that was at a different store. Oh well.
4/17/2013 12:41:22 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Thanks for all of the advice and even the inside info. I wore the tie. I'm hired for Back Room which will be ideal for me. Mostly independent work.

Pay is terrible but it will pay some bills and the store is really close to home so no commute really. The HR ETL guy said he worked overnight flow or logistics for a year and a half so he go promoted somehow. That or he transitioned to HR, don't know.

Either way the two guys I interviewed with seemed cool a Team Leader and the ETL of Logistics. Was nice not to interview with a bunch of females for a change.



Second best position of the three you applied for. Wait until you drive that crown though. It's like trying to corral a land whale, which is scary when you're trying to take down a pallet that weighs thousands of pounds.


I assume the best would have been AP. I think that was at a different store. Oh well.


AP at Target gets paid close to the lowest in the industry (as of a few years ago).  If you want good money doing AP work, try Home Depot.  I did it there and started at $17.50/hour.  Next level up from that was $55k/yr.  Similar two positions at Target were $10/hr and about $30k/year.
4/17/2013 1:21:37 PM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Went to an interview once just after HS - simple labor assembly job - I show with tan slacks, shirt and tie.  Just like Dad always insisted.

The location manager (in work clothes - embroidered name tag) takes one look at me and says, "Son, you know what kind of job this is?  You're gonna get dirty..."  Like I thought I was interviewing for a business position.

I got the job and worked among some of the roughest people I've ever worked with -drug use, alcohol use, fights, etc.  One day I'm watching the news and see a near-by PD walking a white guy out of a trailer park in handcuffs.  Apparently he had just knifed his girlfriend to death.  I sit up and say, "Hey!  I work with that guy!"

Oh the stories...


Ive interviewed for management positions where a suit and tie was considered overdressed. really depends on the company and culture.

Shit.  Some of the former suppliers were so rough, I would see parole officers walk in to the hiring office with a future employee.  One particular supplier was 30 percent illegal immagrant and 20% convicted felon
4/17/2013 1:36:47 PM EDT
[#44]
Once wore a suitcoat and pants, plus tie, to an interview for a production job. Both the receptionist and the interviewer gave me the " It's a dirty job" speech. My response? "My father always told me to dress like you want the job. I have my work clothes in the car. Give me 5 minutes to change and I'm ready to go to work."
My very first interview is the only one I ever had that I wasn't offered the job.