Posted: 2/5/2004 5:11:16 PM EDT
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These guys are toast! I was just getting ready to order a couple of kits from them too. www.atf.gov/press/fy04press/field/020504char_interordnance.htm |
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Bob Conrad, United States Attorney for the Western District of North Carolina summed it up by adding, "The illegal importation, possession, and transfer of fully automatic machineguns pose a serious risk to law enforcement and other citizens. We will vigorously prosecute any attempt to smuggle illegal weapons into this country." The BATFE should have been finished off in 1981. CRC |
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If the hot link had been correct to start with... I can't understand why people just don't hotlink the actual link instead of giving it a cute name. That way we could see the problem right away. Correct link: [url]http://www.atf.gov/press/fy04press/field/020504char_interordnance.htm[/url] Fucked-up link: http://www.atf.gov/press/fy04press/field/020504char_interordnance.ht> Notice the difference? |
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Quoted: Bob Conrad, United States Attorney for the Western District of North Carolina summed it up by adding, "The illegal importation, possession, and transfer of fully automatic machineguns pose a serious risk to law enforcement and other citizens. We will vigorously prosecute any attempt to smuggle illegal weapons into this country." The BATFE should have been finished off in 1981. CRC [lol] Gee, if they told the TRUTH about it they'd have to admit that the biggest firearm threats to cops come from .38's and 9's. Tney make it sound like every two-bit thug is running around with full auto blasting every badge he sees. Of course if they told the TRUTH many, many bullshit fallacies that the ATF and other law enforcement are built on would crumble like a house of cards. law enforcement and other citizens That's one of the few times I've heard somebody from the gooberment imply that cops are citizens too. [shock] They usually go out of their way to make the LEO/civilian distinction implying that FEDS/COPS are somehow "above" mere citizens. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Dare you to call up and ask "How much fer some more of dem machinegun kits?" Better than that, call them up and say your name is Arock and you want to buy twenty more of the same kind of machineguns that you bought the last time. PAYPHONE!!!!! Dunno if you are up on "news" or not, but "that issue" came to a peaceful resolution, and would like to be dropped... |
| Most of the guys that bought those items have already turned them in. I know a couple of guys the were contacted by the ATF and they only took the offending part or parts and left the rest. It all went smooth for them. I have bought a few bolt actions from IO and some ammo. I'm glad I did not buy a PPSH, I was thinking about it. It would suck to be out $700. |
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I haven't seen the evidence, but I'd bet this is more of that wretched "if our retired Navy machinist/armorer working in our million-dollar machine shop can make this pile of iron into a working gun in less than three days, it's a MG" crap. Oh, yeah, if they sold a bazillion "illegal machine guns," and machine guns are a threat to public, where're all the bullet-riddled bodies, cop cars, and buildings? |
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They were selling blade cut receivers, instead of torch cut recievers. Torch cutting, per the ATF, must remove 1/4 inch of material at each cut to make it difficult or nearly impossible to reweld the parts. Also, they were doing the cutting in the wrong places, as I understand it. (E.g., on FALs, cutting so as to leave the F.A. ejector block in place and functional). |
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Keep in mind, "ATF", is NOW, the BATFE, and has been transferred from Treasury dept., to the Dept., of Justice, under BUSH appointed John, (Second-amendment [rolleyes]), Ashcroft.... Those "Watchmen of liberty", work for your "conservative" President, and Attorney General!!! [snoopy] Vote Tweedely-dee!!!! [ROFL] |
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Quoted: And you didn't tell us then??? or did you just figure it was already too late??? It's been brought up a time or two already. Didn't want a duplicate post. Also it was 'personal knowledge' and without a supporting 'link' some jackhole would have raised the bullshit flag. Others would have accused me of trying to make a 'wholesale direct' operation look bad because they directly compete with me. Then there are those who would have gotten defensive about me speaking poorly of their C&R and cheap Yugo supply would have questioned my motives as well. So all things considered, I let it lay. There is all kinds of shit I don't mention because I don't have supporting documantation or it would be received poorly. |