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1/1/2014 11:27:29 AM EDT
We just recently wired our house with cat-6 cable for the purpose of running internet to several rooms of the house.
All of the wires end in a small closet with ventilation and 120 V power

Now we are faced with trying to find a server/router setup that can connect to twelve or more different devices (not necessarily used at the same time, just all plugged in without the need to swap wires around) and provide file sharing and internet access.

Any input or examples would be appreciated, as we would like to finish this project in the near future.

TLDR: Need a home server/router setup, please recommend.
1/1/2014 11:29:51 AM EDT
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You don't need a server for that

You need a switch (gigabit would be best) a router and a modem

1/1/2014 11:37:01 AM EDT
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If we decided to run a website from home, could we do that, or would we need a server?
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you would need a server for that.
1/1/2014 11:41:23 AM EDT
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Why run a server for a simple website.  It's much cheaper to buy rack time / space on a monthly basis then paying the electrical bill for a website.  Also, if it's for business, cloud space is redundant in power, ping, and cooling.  You can probably get away with say 20 bucks a month compared to your webserver that's going to cost more in just power in the home.



 
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Why run a server for a simple website.  It's much cheaper to buy rack time / space on a monthly basis then paying the electrical bill for a website.  Also, if it's for business, cloud space is redundant in power, ping, and cooling.  You can probably get away with say 20 bucks a month compared to your webserver that's going to cost more in just power in the home.
 
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Why run a server for a simple website.  It's much cheaper to buy rack time / space on a monthly basis then paying the electrical bill for a website.  Also, if it's for business, cloud space is redundant in power, ping, and cooling.  You can probably get away with say 20 bucks a month compared to your webserver that's going to cost more in just power in the home.
 



And even if you don't want to go that deep into it, there's all kinds of free web hosting sites nowadays for casual use. And a .com domain (depending on what its called) can be as low as a few dollars a year.
1/1/2014 11:45:04 AM EDT
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Porn site?
1/1/2014 11:46:10 AM EDT
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I bet know that 360 is loud as hell.
1/1/2014 11:48:00 AM EDT
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We just recently wired our house with cat-6 cable for the purpose of running internet to several rooms of the house.
All of the wires end in a small closet with ventilation and 120 V power

Now we are faced with trying to find a server/router setup that can connect to twelve or more different devices (not necessarily used at the same time, just all plugged in without the need to swap wires around) and provide file sharing and internet access.

Any input or examples would be appreciated, as we would like to finish this project in the near future.

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http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/roll_your_own_home_server2013?page=0,0
http://www.tested.com/tech/windows/406-how-to-build-an-awesome-500-windows-home-server/
1/1/2014 11:48:10 AM EDT
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The big question is how much do you want to spend?

For a home media server.  Something like the below server would suit your needs just fine.  Just put in a couple of large HDD's and load Windows Home Server or a flavor of linux.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859106529

As for the router part.  I would just get the best wireless router that you can afford and then get a 16 port unmanaged gigabit switch to connect to it.  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156293
1/1/2014 11:55:32 AM EDT
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1/1/2014 11:58:52 AM EDT
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Yeah it is. I only plug it in when I am using it (Windows exploit VM) other. I have seen some guys take out half the fans and not have any problems and make it a lot quieter.
1/1/2014 12:00:11 PM EDT
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Terms of service of pretty much every ISP won't allow you to run a server from your house.  Go use any number of free services online for that.




Frankly, a server in your house is pretty pointless unless you are rigging up a media server for all your movies to live on.
1/1/2014 12:07:45 PM EDT
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I use my server all the time (that is where all my data resides).

For home use just make up a simple server with mirrored drives (for redundancy).

Remember to back it up.


A HP Procurve 24 port GB switch can be had off of eBay for around $100
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1/1/2014 12:08:23 PM EDT
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Yeah it is. I only plug it in when I am using it (Windows exploit VM) other. I have seen some guys take out half the fans and not have any problems and make it a lot quieter.
Could be worse, it could be a DL580 plus storage array.  The electric company loves those people in the summer months.



 
1/1/2014 12:11:20 PM EDT
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Yeah it is. I only plug it in when I am using it (Windows exploit VM) other. I have seen some guys take out half the fans and not have any problems and make it a lot quieter.
I unplugged the fans on my Cisco 2811. It's been fine for two years. Using it at home doesn't really tax the thing, like it would at a larger office. Plus I keep the room reasonably cool.

 



I've got a DL380 coming home soon (retiring it from our data center - gonna use it as a NAS4Free box), and I'll probably have to do something similar. You don't realize how loud the damn things are, until you bring one home.
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I unplugged the fans on my Cisco 2811. It's been fine for two years. Using it at home doesn't really tax the thing, like it would at a larger office. Plus I keep the room reasonably cool.    

I've got a DL380 coming home soon (retiring it from our data center - gonna use it as a NAS4Free box), and I'll probably have to do something similar. You don't realize how loud the damn things are, until you bring one home.
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No joke. Even my switch is loud. I just added another Dell Pentium 4 desktop I am going to use for FreeNAS. I have been planing on putting Proxmox on the 360 but have been lazy.

That is in the utility room under the stairs, when it is going and the dryer is on it gets a little warm in there.





Yeah it is. I only plug it in when I am using it (Windows exploit VM) other. I have seen some guys take out half the fans and not have any problems and make it a lot quieter.
I unplugged the fans on my Cisco 2811. It's been fine for two years. Using it at home doesn't really tax the thing, like it would at a larger office. Plus I keep the room reasonably cool.    

I've got a DL380 coming home soon (retiring it from our data center - gonna use it as a NAS4Free box), and I'll probably have to do something similar. You don't realize how loud the damn things are, until you bring one home.

1/1/2014 12:17:23 PM EDT
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I unplugged the fans on my Cisco 2811. It's been fine for two years. Using it at home doesn't really tax the thing, like it would at a larger office. Plus I keep the room reasonably cool.    

I've got a DL380 coming home soon (retiring it from our data center - gonna use it as a NAS4Free box), and I'll probably have to do something similar. You don't realize how loud the damn things are, until you bring one home.
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Yeah it is. I only plug it in when I am using it (Windows exploit VM) other. I have seen some guys take out half the fans and not have any problems and make it a lot quieter.
I unplugged the fans on my Cisco 2811. It's been fine for two years. Using it at home doesn't really tax the thing, like it would at a larger office. Plus I keep the room reasonably cool.    

I've got a DL380 coming home soon (retiring it from our data center - gonna use it as a NAS4Free box), and I'll probably have to do something similar. You don't realize how loud the damn things are, until you bring one home.




I don't have the switch in the pic.  But,  yeah.  They sound like turbines when booting.  And plenty loud running.  

But they are fun to tinker with.
1/1/2014 12:27:11 PM EDT
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I've got a DL380 coming home soon (retiring it from our data center - gonna use it as a NAS4Free box), and I'll probably have to do something similar. You don't realize how loud the damn things are, until you bring one home.
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Yeah it is. I only plug it in when I am using it (Windows exploit VM) other. I have seen some guys take out half the fans and not have any problems and make it a lot quieter.
I unplugged the fans on my Cisco 2811. It's been fine for two years. Using it at home doesn't really tax the thing, like it would at a larger office. Plus I keep the room reasonably cool.    

I've got a DL380 coming home soon (retiring it from our data center - gonna use it as a NAS4Free box), and I'll probably have to do something similar. You don't realize how loud the damn things are, until you bring one home.


No kidding. I have a DL360 and DL380 both G3s sitting under my workbench. I would have them up right now if I could pull it off without the wife divorcing me.



Just for shits and giggles, lets power it up. Yeah, it says fuck you I need more fans.
1/1/2014 12:47:22 PM EDT
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You might take a look at the Synology NAS enclosures.  

Of course you have the storage, but it can serve as a web server, FTP server, etc... as well.
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http://www.1and1.com/
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I run 25tb in flexraid with dual parity drives on a 3930k w/32gb ram.  Custom build.

Movies, music and backup, with mediabrowser, metabrowser, plex server, svp, reclock, madVR & mpc-hc.
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Yep, Newegg had a nice 16 port unmanaged gigabit switch for about $60 the other day. It was rack mountable or could rest on a shelf.



If you are going to be doing it right, you will probably want a patch panel was well as a switch, it makes adding and moving things around much easier. You can get a small wall mount rack setup pretty cheap, and if you need a server later there are plenty of options for 1u servers, the rack would keep everything nice and organized instead of having a hose monster of cables and wires. A bit of car in cable routing would also help, which is another place where the patch panel comes in handy, you can form and route the cables to the back of the patch panel, then use short jumpers from the patch panel to the switch.



 
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No kidding. I have a DL360 and DL380 both G3s sitting under my workbench. I would have them up right now if I could pull it off without the wife divorcing me.



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Yeah it is. I only plug it in when I am using it (Windows exploit VM) other. I have seen some guys take out half the fans and not have any problems and make it a lot quieter.
I unplugged the fans on my Cisco 2811. It's been fine for two years. Using it at home doesn't really tax the thing, like it would at a larger office. Plus I keep the room reasonably cool.    



I've got a DL380 coming home soon (retiring it from our data center - gonna use it as a NAS4Free box), and I'll probably have to do something similar. You don't realize how loud the damn things are, until you bring one home.





No kidding. I have a DL360 and DL380 both G3s sitting under my workbench. I would have them up right now if I could pull it off without the wife divorcing me.



http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/zz220/dougherty0311/IMG_20140101_163818_zpsv6x3jzc1.jpg



Just for shits and giggles, lets power it up. Yeah, it says fuck you I need more fans.
"Fan solution not sufficient". I like that.



 
1/1/2014 2:40:04 PM EDT
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  Terms of service of pretty much every ISP won't allow you to run a server from your house.  Go use any number of free services online for that.

Frankly, a server in your house is pretty pointless unless you are rigging up a media server for all your movies to live on.
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If we decided to run a website from home, could we do that, or would we need a server?

  Terms of service of pretty much every ISP won't allow you to run a server from your house.  Go use any number of free services online for that.

Frankly, a server in your house is pretty pointless unless you are rigging up a media server for all your movies to live on.


I ran a server for a while from Home. It was att.  They did not forbid it, they just made some of the imfo I needed to set it up really hard to obtain.  I even made their "gateway" modem router work as a dumb modem and attached my own router. That was the tricky pary. The gateway was unable to run a server.  

OP I would suggest researching your router before you purchase and getting one you can install a custom firmware on such as ddwrt.
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If we decided to run a website from home, could we do that, or would we need a server?

  Terms of service of pretty much every ISP won't allow you to run a server from your house.  Go use any number of free services online for that.

Frankly, a server in your house is pretty pointless unless you are rigging up a media server for all your movies to live on.


You would probably need to get a business line through your ISP for that to be allowed.
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If we decided to run a website from home, could we do that, or would we need a server?


  Terms of service of pretty much every ISP won't allow you to run a server from your house.  Go use any number of free services online for that.



Frankly, a server in your house is pretty pointless unless you are rigging up a media server for all your movies to live on.





You would probably need to get a business line through your ISP for that to be allowed.


You pretty much need a static IP address to do it right. There are inexpensive website hosts and inexpensive DNS forwarding available.


It can get pretty daunting for a novice. I consider myself fairly computer savvy - but some networking stuff is still over my head.


As mentioned above, the Synology NAS units are a pretty good bang for the buck and software to serve nearly anything is included. You can get a decent one that has a buttload of storage (like 4 terrabytes) for less than decent server software costs alone.



 

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Or you can get a dynamic DNS service instead of a static IP, but your TOS will say what is a go.

Honestly if you are new to IT hosting a web server on your home network open to the world may not be a good idea. The wrong person can easily find a hole somewhere in your security and setup inside of your network. That means anything you do on the internet they can see. Bank accounts, email, passwords you name it.
1/1/2014 5:42:37 PM EDT
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Its just a money call.  To stream media starting with a regular internet / wireless router and hanging a decent non managed (cheap) switch off of that is a simple start.  If you want or need to do more both Juniper and Cisco have an array of devices you could use for this. 10g E would work if you felt like going baller or something.

personally I stream DLNA and work on big ass CAD files at home with a pretty simple network 1gig config.  To "serve" you just need a machine with a good disk drive (assuming you stream / read biased)  and gigabit link.  Pick the OS of your choice and go to town.