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2/4/2015 11:30:10 AM EDT
Been over a year since i have been reading posts, so nobody call dupe or anything on this.

If we hadnt have taken out Sadamm and his buddies, would this ISIS shit be going on?
2/4/2015 11:32:48 AM EDT
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Most likely not, but counterfactuals are just a form of mental masturbation.

ETA: Its certainly possible ISIS would have been around in some form, but they would not have the strength they do now.
2/4/2015 11:34:18 AM EDT
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6 of 1 or half a dozen of another
2/4/2015 11:35:11 AM EDT
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Hard to say. ISIS dates back to the mid-to-late 90's I believe, they used to be called Al Qaeda in Iraq back when the lefties claimed Al Qaeda had nothing to do with Iraq.
2/4/2015 11:37:04 AM EDT
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A secular dictator who is extremely paranoid of any armed group threatening his grip on power...no I can't see him doing anything but having the Republican Guard rounding up ISIS members and torturing them to death. We fucked the dog when we removed Saddam. It happens.
2/4/2015 11:37:36 AM EDT
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If it's not them it would be someone else.
2/4/2015 11:38:09 AM EDT
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Most of the posts in GD are a form of mental masturbation, but....

Looking back at the last 30 years of the middle east, everytime we get involved in helping over throw a government, what we get is sooooooo much worse.

2/4/2015 11:42:36 AM EDT
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This.

We removed a power structure in the region and left a vacuum, if they didn't step up someone else would have. The only way to have avoided this would have been to replace the dictator with someone who would instill an equal or greater amount of fear into the population or to have completely and permanently broken them.

We gained nothing but debt and death by trying to lick their butt holes and nation build. They need to evolve culturally before they as a people can think to embrace any kind of freedom. It cannot be forced upon them.
2/4/2015 11:47:54 AM EDT
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Most of the posts in GD are a form of mental masturbation, but....

Looking back at the last 30 years of the middle east, everytime we get involved in helping over throw a government, what we get is sooooooo much worse.

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Since we are doing the "twat if" thing.

If Obama hadn't been elected would we still have ISIS?
2/4/2015 11:50:36 AM EDT
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Since we are doing the "twat if" thing.



If Obama hadn't been elected would we still have ISIS?
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Most of the posts in GD are a form of mental masturbation, but....



Looking back at the last 30 years of the middle east, everytime we get involved in helping over throw a government, what we get is sooooooo much worse.







Since we are doing the "twat if" thing.



If Obama hadn't been elected would we still have ISIS?


We wouldn't be supplying them with munitions that's for sure.