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1/6/2013 6:14:23 PM EDT
Been a while so It's about time for another one.







 
1/6/2013 6:15:20 PM EDT
[#1]
Coming soon to a small nation-state near you.
1/6/2013 6:15:50 PM EDT
[#2]
Too bad they lost. I met a guy who was from there. He said that he fought in that war at 19 and they had already learned the benifits of v-huled vehicals.
1/6/2013 6:16:22 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Too bad they lost.


It wasn't that simple.
1/6/2013 6:16:46 PM EDT
[#4]
You got two choices White Man.

You can live in Rhodesia or you can live in Zimbabwe.

1/6/2013 6:17:44 PM EDT
[#5]



Quoted:


Too bad they lost.
They didn't lose.....Remember that. Rhodesia never surrendered.





 
1/6/2013 6:18:33 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Too bad they lost.


It wasn't that simple.


Because Zimbabwe is at the forefront of an industrialized and modern continent, right?
1/6/2013 6:19:07 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:

Too bad they lost.



It was because they couldn't figure out how to defeat life vest armor.

1/6/2013 6:19:18 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Too bad they lost.
They didn't lose.....Remember that. Rhodesia never surrendered.

 


How did it go down? I don't see it on the map any more.
1/6/2013 6:21:34 PM EDT
[#9]


There ya go.
1/6/2013 6:22:02 PM EDT
[#10]





Quoted:





Quoted:
Quoted:


Too bad they lost.
They didn't lose.....Remember that. Rhodesia never surrendered.





 






How did it go down? I don't see it on the map any more.





SOUTHERN AFRICA CALLS THE TUNE



 The Portuguese coup on 25 April  1974 had an
immediate and wide-ranging effect on the  political
landscape of Southern Africa. By the  middle of the
year, a Frelimo-led caretaker government had been
installed in Lourengo Marques, which meant that
the port  of Beira, hitherto  one of Rhodesia's main
trade outlets, was no longer available. The same
applied to Lourengo Marques. A new railway link
from  Rutenga  to Beit Bridge  was completed in
September.  This has  provided an additional
railway line between Rhodesia and South Africa that
has now become Rhodesia's lifeline to the outside
world. In the general election, held on 31 July, the
Rhodesia Front  Party again  won  all 50  white
constituencies.

South African Prime Minister John Vorster
launched his  famous  detente-with-Africa policy
during a speech to the Senate in Cape Town on 23
October  1974.  Pres Kenneth  Kaunda of  Zambia
reacted a few days later, welcoming the speech as
"the voice of reason for which Africa and the world
have been waiting". Realising that the Portuguese
coup  had drastically  changed the  situation for
white Southern Africa,  and for Rhodesia in particular,
Kaunda  now encouraged black Rhodesian
nationalists to  unite  with  a view to negotiating
with the  Rhodesian government, a course  both he
and  Vorster openly  favoured.  Several  leaders,
including Sithole  and  Nkomo,  were released  as
result of Vorster's detente efforts. Black leaders met
in Lusaka, and  on 9 December 1974 they signed an
agreement uniting ZAPU, ZANU and FROLIZI
(Front for the Liberation of Zimbabwe), under the
banner of the African National Council of Bishop
Muzorewa.  



Two days  after the  meeting, Smith
informed the country that the  government was to
hold a constitutional conference with the nationalists, and that nationalist leaders still  in detention
would be released. The Prime Minister indicated
that he expected terrorist incursions in Rhodesia to
cease in  reciprocation.  South Africa also expected
acts of terrorism to cease, and Vorster confirmed
that South  African police units originally sent to
Rhodesia in  1967/68,  would  be  withdrawn if
terrorists were  to discontinue their own activities.
Despite  a definite lull in terrorist incursions, these
soon increased again, and on 10 January 1975 the
Rhodesian  government  stopped   the release  of
political detainees. Security measures were again
tightened, and military officials later admitted that
their relaxed vigilance during the initial stages of
detente  had enabled terrorists to step-up activities
in  certain  areas  of Eastern and North-Eastern
Rhodesia. Sithole  was  again arrested in March
1975  on charges  of plotting the  assassination of
certain of his political opponents. This caused an
immediate outcry in African circles, and pressure
was brought to bear on South Africa to effect his
release.  Smith led a  high-ranking  Rhodesian
government  delegation to  a conference  with the
South African Prime Minister on 15 March.

  Herbert Chitepo,  leader  of the ZANU movement,
was assassinated by political rivals in Lusaka
four days later, revealing the serious rift within the
nationalist  movement.



The  Rhodesian  Special
Court renewed the detention order on  Sithole at
the beginning  of April, but he was released  on 6
April following an appeal by Muzorewa, supported  
by the South  African government.  Efforts to
bring the Rhodesian government  and the various
nationalists together,  were intensified during the
next two months, the  South African  government
playing  a prominent role in attempts  to bring the
interested parties to the conference table. Tension
again  mounted among supporters of the various
black movements. Thirteen people were killed and
28 injured when the police opened  fire on a crowd
of several thousand blacks on 2 June.

 The initial  talks  held between  Smith and  the
ANC leaders on 15 June 1975 ended in a deadlock
as the parties were unable to agree on the venue for
a constitutional conference. The Rhodesian Minister
of Information and several MP's flew to Lusaka
ten days later for talks with Kaunda, and reached
agreement for a conference to be held on neutral
ground soon after their arrival. The conference was
held on  the bridge near  the  Victoria  Falls  in
railway carriages provided  by the South African
Railways on  25  August. Kaunda and Vorster
attended the meeting which may be  regarded as
the climax of the detente exercise, despite the  fact,
that Smith  and the black  nationalists failed  to
reach agreement. The ANC disintegrated after the
Victoria  Falls meeting with Joshua Nkomo forming
his own internal  wing, and Muzorewa  and
Sithole leading the external faction.



The front-line
presidents,  notably Nyerere  of Tanzania  and
Machel  of Mozambique  believed  that  political
settlement was impossible, and this led directly to
the establishment of the Zimbabwe People's Army
(ZIPA), a military  group  consisting  of former
ZANU and ZAPU  cadres. ZIPA forces, led by a
Moscow-orientated,  18-man High Command  under
former ZANU Field Commander Rex Nhongo,
launched a new  offensive against Rhodesia on  18
January  1976. This onslaught was perhaps  the
single most significant  element in the  political
struggle  for Rhodesia,  and  quickly  led to  an
escalation  of the conflict, especially  along the
Mogambique border where incidents have become
increasingly common. South African and Cuban
involvement in  the  Angolan civil war,  and the
threat of Cuban involvement  in  Rhodesia,  once
more fixed the international spotlight on Southern
Africa and the Rhodesian issue,  and led to the
Kissinger initiative and the abortive Geneva  Conference.

 Smith met Kissinger,  America's Secretary  of
State, for talks in  Pretoria, and returned to Rhodesia
to announce that he had accepted the Kissinger
proposals calling  for  establishment  of an interim
government and a handover to black majority rule
within  two years.  The  proposals included
American-British  assurances, and guarantees  for
the white minority. The agreement called for a halt
to sanctions and the  terrorist war.  The  black
nationalists, notably Robert Mugabe of ZIPA, who
claims to  have  assumed  command of ZANU's
external  wing  from  Sithole, and a  number  of
front-line  presidents,  all  rejected the Kissinger
proposals, and intimated that they had never been
party  to them - the  impression Kissinger had
given according to Smith and Vorster.

 The Salisbury  Government and the  black  leaders
assembled at  Geneva under the chairmanship
of  Mr  Ivor Richard, a British UN representative
in  October 1976 to try  and see how the
proposals could best be implemented. However,
the conference  was marked by dissent among the
black delegates from the beginning and  when  it
broke up for  Christmas  no headway had  been
made.  In fact the  assembly of  the  conference
originally scheduled  for  mid-January 1977  has
been indefinitely  postponed because of the deadlock.






 
1/6/2013 6:22:51 PM EDT
[#11]
The commie cocksuckers had the outside political support.
1/6/2013 6:23:50 PM EDT
[#12]


I want a rhodesian ridgeback in the worst way.
1/6/2013 6:24:24 PM EDT
[#13]
Support in the form of Henry Kissinger for example.
1/6/2013 6:24:40 PM EDT
[#14]
Rhodesian African Rifles have one of the best regimental songs.

Sweet Bannana

A 'Sweet Banana' was a traditional gift a young warrior would offer the girl of his dreams, the song is said to have been written by members of the Regiment during WWII when a detachment of RAR Troops were escorting Italian POW's from the docks in Durban and purchased some bananas enroute to the POW camp.


One of the most famous songs sung by Rhodesians during the bush war, the lyrics could be adapted to suit the moment.


"Sweet Banana"

A, B, C, D, E Headquarters I will buy you a sweet banana
A, B, C, D, E Headquarters I will buy you a sweet banana
Banana, Banana, Banana, I will buy you a sweet banana
Shield spear and knobkerrie, soldiers in war and peace
In war she fights with bravery, I will buy you a sweet banana
One Two and the Depot RAR-O, I will buy you a sweet banana
One Two and the Depot RAR-O, I will buy you a sweet banana
Banana, Banana, Banana, I will buy you a sweet banana
Shield spear and knobkerrie, soldiers in war and peace
In war she fights with bravery, I will buy you a sweet banana
Rhodesia, Burma, Egypt ne Malaya takarwa tika kunda
Rhodesia, Burma, Egypt ne Malaya takarwa tika kunda
Muhondo, Muhondo, Muhondo Inorwa no kushinga
Nhowo pfumo netsvimbo ndiyo RAR-O
Muhondo ne runyararo ndichakutengera sweet banana
A, B, C, D Support Headquarters ndidzo ndichapedza hondo dzoze
A, B, C, D Support Headquarters ndidzo ndichapedza hondo dzoze
Banana, Banana, Banana ndichakutengera sweet banana
Nhowo pfomo netsvimbo ndiyo RAR-O
Muhondo ne runyararo ndichakutengera sweet banana


Translation:

Nhowo, pfumo, ne tsvimbo                            
Shield, spear and knobkerrie
Ndiyo RAR, muhondo ne runyararo              
That’s RAR, in war and peace
Ndichakutengera sweet banana                    
I will buy you a sweet banana

Burma, Egypt ne Malaya                              
Burma, Egypt and Malaya
Takarwa tikakunda                                      
We fought and we conquered
Federation ne Rhodesia                                
The Federation and Rhodesia
Takarwa tikakunda                                      
We fought and we conquered
Muhondo, muhondo, muhondo                      
In war, in war, in war
Muhondo RAR, inorwa nokushinga              
In war, she fights with bravery

1/6/2013 6:25:28 PM EDT
[#15]
Did someone say Rhodie?







 
1/6/2013 6:32:30 PM EDT
[#16]





Indeed!







 
1/6/2013 6:34:35 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
Too bad they lost.
They didn't lose.....Remember that. Rhodesia never surrendered.

 


How did it go down? I don't see it on the map any more.

SOUTHERN AFRICA CALLS THE TUNE

 The Portuguese coup on 25 April  1974 had animmediate and wide-ranging effect on the  politicallandscape of Southern Africa. By the  middle of theyear, a Frelimo-led caretaker government had beeninstalled in Lourengo Marques, which meant thatthe port  of Beira, hitherto  one of Rhodesia's maintrade outlets, was no longer available. The sameapplied to Lourengo Marques. A new railway linkfrom  Rutenga  to Beit Bridge  was completed inSeptember.  This has  provided an additional railway line between Rhodesia and South Africa thathas now become Rhodesia's lifeline to the outsideworld. In the general election, held on 31 July, theRhodesia Front  Party again  won  all 50  whiteconstituencies.South African Prime Minister John Vorsterlaunched his  famous  detente-with-Africa policyduring a speech to the Senate in Cape Town on 23October  1974.  Pres Kenneth  Kaunda of  Zambiareacted a few days later, welcoming the speech as"the voice of reason for which Africa and the worldhave been waiting". Realising that the Portuguesecoup  had drastically  changed the  situation forwhite Southern Africa,  and for Rhodesia in particular, Kaunda  now encouraged black Rhodesiannationalists to  unite  with  a view to negotiatingwith the  Rhodesian government, a course  both heand  Vorster openly  favoured.  Several  leaders,including Sithole  and  Nkomo,  were released  asresult of Vorster's detente efforts. Black leaders metin Lusaka, and  on 9 December 1974 they signed anagreement uniting ZAPU, ZANU and FROLIZI(Front for the Liberation of Zimbabwe), under thebanner of the African National Council of BishopMuzorewa.  

Two days  after the  meeting, Smithinformed the country that the  government was tohold a constitutional conference with the nationalists, and that nationalist leaders still  in detentionwould be released. The Prime Minister indicatedthat he expected terrorist incursions in Rhodesia tocease in  reciprocation.  South Africa also expectedacts of terrorism to cease, and Vorster confirmedthat South  African police units originally sent toRhodesia in  1967/68,  would  be  withdrawn ifterrorists were  to discontinue their own activities.Despite  a definite lull in terrorist incursions, thesesoon increased again, and on 10 January 1975 theRhodesian  government  stopped   the release  ofpolitical detainees. Security measures were againtightened, and military officials later admitted thattheir relaxed vigilance during the initial stages ofdetente  had enabled terrorists to step-up activitiesin  certain  areas  of Eastern and North-EasternRhodesia. Sithole  was  again arrested in March1975  on charges  of plotting the  assassination ofcertain of his political opponents. This caused animmediate outcry in African circles, and pressurewas brought to bear on South Africa to effect hisrelease.  Smith led a  high-ranking  Rhodesiangovernment  delegation to  a conference  with theSouth African Prime Minister on 15 March.   Herbert Chitepo,  leader  of the ZANU movement, was assassinated by political rivals in Lusakafour days later, revealing the serious rift within thenationalist  movement.

The  Rhodesian  SpecialCourt renewed the detention order on  Sithole atthe beginning  of April, but he was released  on 6April following an appeal by Muzorewa, supported  by the South  African government.  Efforts tobring the Rhodesian government  and the variousnationalists together,  were intensified during thenext two months, the  South African  governmentplaying  a prominent role in attempts  to bring theinterested parties to the conference table. Tensionagain  mounted among supporters of the variousblack movements. Thirteen people were killed and28 injured when the police opened  fire on a crowdof several thousand blacks on 2 June.  The initial  talks  held between  Smith and  theANC leaders on 15 June 1975 ended in a deadlockas the parties were unable to agree on the venue fora constitutional conference. The Rhodesian Minister of Information and several MP's flew to Lusakaten days later for talks with Kaunda, and reachedagreement for a conference to be held on neutralground soon after their arrival. The conference washeld on  the bridge near  the  Victoria  Falls  inrailway carriages provided  by the South AfricanRailways on  25  August. Kaunda and Vorsterattended the meeting which may be  regarded asthe climax of the detente exercise, despite the  fact,that Smith  and the black  nationalists failed  toreach agreement. The ANC disintegrated after theVictoria  Falls meeting with Joshua Nkomo forming his own internal  wing, and Muzorewa  andSithole leading the external faction.

The front-line presidents,  notably Nyerere  of Tanzania  and Machel  of Mozambique  believed  that  political settlement was impossible, and this led directly to the establishment of the Zimbabwe People's Army (ZIPA), a military  group  consisting  of former ZANU and ZAPU  cadres. ZIPA forces, led by a Moscow-orientated,  18-man High Command  under former ZANU Field Commander Rex Nhongo, launched a new  offensive against Rhodesia on  18January  1976. This onslaught was perhaps  the single most significant  element in the  politicalstruggle  for Rhodesia,  and  quickly  led to  anescalation  of the conflict, especially  along theMogambique border where incidents have becomeincreasingly common. South African and Cubaninvolvement in  the  Angolan civil war,  and thethreat of Cuban involvement  in  Rhodesia,  oncemore fixed the international spotlight on SouthernAfrica and the Rhodesian issue,  and led to theKissinger initiative and the abortive Geneva  Conference.  Smith met Kissinger,  America's Secretary  ofState, for talks in  Pretoria, and returned to Rhodesia to announce that he had accepted the Kissingerproposals calling  for  establishment  of an interimgovernment and a handover to black majority rulewithin  two years.  The  proposals includedAmerican-British  assurances, and guarantees  forthe white minority. The agreement called for a haltto sanctions and the  terrorist war.  The  blacknationalists, notably Robert Mugabe of ZIPA, whoclaims to  have  assumed  command of ZANU'sexternal  wing  from  Sithole, and a  number  offront-line  presidents,  all  rejected the Kissingerproposals, and intimated that they had never beenparty  to them - the  impression Kissinger hadgiven according to Smith and Vorster.  The Salisbury  Government and the  black  leaders assembled at  Geneva under the chairmanshipof  Mr  Ivor Richard, a British UN representative in  October 1976 to try  and see how theproposals could best be implemented. However,the conference  was marked by dissent among theblack delegates from the beginning and  when  itbroke up for  Christmas  no headway had  beenmade.  In fact the  assembly of  the  conferenceoriginally scheduled  for  mid-January 1977  hasbeen indefinitely  postponed because of the deadlock.
 


I still don't get it. Please explain. I know they got boned just like South Africa but I don't know the details. I remember reading about the Selous Scouts(?) in Soldier of Fortune and how they ate "bush meat". Baboons! And that they wore beards to help protect their identity. Badass commie fighters!
1/6/2013 6:35:28 PM EDT
[#18]





Looks nice!





 
1/6/2013 6:37:47 PM EDT
[#19]
Any book recommendations on the Rhodesian Civil War would be appreciated
1/6/2013 6:39:41 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Any book recommendations on the Rhodesian Civil War would be appreciated


+1!
1/6/2013 6:39:44 PM EDT
[#21]



Quoted:


Any book recommendations on the Rhodesian Civil War would be appreciated


http://www.amazon.com/The-Saints-Rhodesian-Light-Infantry/dp/1920143076/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1357529965&sr=8-19&keywords=rhodesian+bush+war



 
1/6/2013 6:40:20 PM EDT
[#22]
again?
1/6/2013 6:40:30 PM EDT
[#23]



Quoted:


Rhodesian African Rifles have one of the best regimental songs.



Sweet Bannana



A 'Sweet Banana' was a traditional gift a young warrior would offer the girl of his dreams, the song is said to have been written by members of the Regiment during WWII when a detachment of RAR Troops were escorting Italian POW's from the docks in Durban and purchased some bananas enroute to the POW camp.





One of the most famous songs sung by Rhodesians during the bush war, the lyrics could be adapted to suit the moment.





"Sweet Banana"



A, B, C, D, E Headquarters I will buy you a sweet banana

A, B, C, D, E Headquarters I will buy you a sweet banana

Banana, Banana, Banana, I will buy you a sweet banana

Shield spear and knobkerrie, soldiers in war and peace

In war she fights with bravery, I will buy you a sweet banana

One Two and the Depot RAR-O, I will buy you a sweet banana

One Two and the Depot RAR-O, I will buy you a sweet banana

Banana, Banana, Banana, I will buy you a sweet banana

Shield spear and knobkerrie, soldiers in war and peace

In war she fights with bravery, I will buy you a sweet banana

Rhodesia, Burma, Egypt ne Malaya takarwa tika kunda

Rhodesia, Burma, Egypt ne Malaya takarwa tika kunda

Muhondo, Muhondo, Muhondo Inorwa no kushinga

Nhowo pfumo netsvimbo ndiyo RAR-O

Muhondo ne runyararo ndichakutengera sweet banana

A, B, C, D Support Headquarters ndidzo ndichapedza hondo dzoze

A, B, C, D Support Headquarters ndidzo ndichapedza hondo dzoze

Banana, Banana, Banana ndichakutengera sweet banana

Nhowo pfomo netsvimbo ndiyo RAR-O

Muhondo ne runyararo ndichakutengera sweet banana





Translation:



Nhowo, pfumo, ne tsvimbo                            

Shield, spear and knobkerrie

Ndiyo RAR, muhondo ne runyararo              

That’s RAR, in war and peace

Ndichakutengera sweet banana                    

I will buy you a sweet banana



Burma, Egypt ne Malaya                              

Burma, Egypt and Malaya

Takarwa tikakunda                                      

We fought and we conquered

Federation ne Rhodesia                                

The Federation and Rhodesia

Takarwa tikakunda                                      

We fought and we conquered

Muhondo, muhondo, muhondo                      

In war, in war, in war

Muhondo RAR, inorwa nokushinga              

In war, she fights with bravery









 
1/6/2013 6:42:09 PM EDT
[#24]



Quoted:


again?


Damn right again!



 
1/6/2013 6:44:30 PM EDT
[#25]
Tag for FAL porn.
1/6/2013 6:45:36 PM EDT
[#26]
Thread fail due to lack of pics of dudes in shorts with FALs.
1/6/2013 6:51:27 PM EDT
[#27]
1/6/2013 7:04:36 PM EDT
[#28]
Check out the new rhodesian forums for great info. Alot of bush war vets are members there. A good book  to read is " Fireforce".
1/6/2013 7:08:12 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Any book recommendations on the Rhodesian Civil War would be appreciated

http://www.amazon.com/The-Saints-Rhodesian-Light-Infantry/dp/1920143076/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1357529965&sr=8-19&keywords=rhodesian+bush+war
 


Much appreciated! But, out of stock and $900 used

1/6/2013 7:11:12 PM EDT
[#30]


I always since about 10 wanted a Rhodesian Ridgeback

I settled a week a go for Ridgeback beer!


And yea well, NOT TOO BAD

1/6/2013 7:18:30 PM EDT
[#31]
Executive Outcomes, PMC. Since your in that part of the world. A bit later in time but interesting.
1/6/2013 7:33:48 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
Too bad they lost.
They didn't lose.....Remember that. Rhodesia never surrendered.

 


How did it go down? I don't see it on the map any more.

SOUTHERN AFRICA CALLS THE TUNE

 The Portuguese coup on 25 April  1974 had animmediate and wide-ranging effect on the  politicallandscape of Southern Africa. By the  middle of theyear, a Frelimo-led caretaker government had beeninstalled in Lourengo Marques, which meant thatthe port  of Beira, hitherto  one of Rhodesia's maintrade outlets, was no longer available. The sameapplied to Lourengo Marques. A new railway linkfrom  Rutenga  to Beit Bridge  was completed inSeptember.  This has  provided an additional railway line between Rhodesia and South Africa thathas now become Rhodesia's lifeline to the outsideworld. In the general election, held on 31 July, theRhodesia Front  Party again  won  all 50  whiteconstituencies.South African Prime Minister John Vorsterlaunched his  famous  detente-with-Africa policyduring a speech to the Senate in Cape Town on 23October  1974.  Pres Kenneth  Kaunda of  Zambiareacted a few days later, welcoming the speech as"the voice of reason for which Africa and the worldhave been waiting". Realising that the Portuguesecoup  had drastically  changed the  situation forwhite Southern Africa,  and for Rhodesia in particular, Kaunda  now encouraged black Rhodesiannationalists to  unite  with  a view to negotiatingwith the  Rhodesian government, a course  both heand  Vorster openly  favoured.  Several  leaders,including Sithole  and  Nkomo,  were released  asresult of Vorster's detente efforts. Black leaders metin Lusaka, and  on 9 December 1974 they signed anagreement uniting ZAPU, ZANU and FROLIZI(Front for the Liberation of Zimbabwe), under thebanner of the African National Council of BishopMuzorewa.  

Two days  after the  meeting, Smithinformed the country that the  government was tohold a constitutional conference with the nationalists, and that nationalist leaders still  in detentionwould be released. The Prime Minister indicatedthat he expected terrorist incursions in Rhodesia tocease in  reciprocation.  South Africa also expectedacts of terrorism to cease, and Vorster confirmedthat South  African police units originally sent toRhodesia in  1967/68,  would  be  withdrawn ifterrorists were  to discontinue their own activities.Despite  a definite lull in terrorist incursions, thesesoon increased again, and on 10 January 1975 theRhodesian  government  stopped   the release  ofpolitical detainees. Security measures were againtightened, and military officials later admitted thattheir relaxed vigilance during the initial stages ofdetente  had enabled terrorists to step-up activitiesin  certain  areas  of Eastern and North-EasternRhodesia. Sithole  was  again arrested in March1975  on charges  of plotting the  assassination ofcertain of his political opponents. This caused animmediate outcry in African circles, and pressurewas brought to bear on South Africa to effect hisrelease.  Smith led a  high-ranking  Rhodesiangovernment  delegation to  a conference  with theSouth African Prime Minister on 15 March.   Herbert Chitepo,  leader  of the ZANU movement, was assassinated by political rivals in Lusakafour days later, revealing the serious rift within thenationalist  movement.

The  Rhodesian  SpecialCourt renewed the detention order on  Sithole atthe beginning  of April, but he was released  on 6April following an appeal by Muzorewa, supported  by the South  African government.  Efforts tobring the Rhodesian government  and the variousnationalists together,  were intensified during thenext two months, the  South African  governmentplaying  a prominent role in attempts  to bring theinterested parties to the conference table. Tensionagain  mounted among supporters of the variousblack movements. Thirteen people were killed and28 injured when the police opened  fire on a crowdof several thousand blacks on 2 June.  The initial  talks  held between  Smith and  theANC leaders on 15 June 1975 ended in a deadlockas the parties were unable to agree on the venue fora constitutional conference. The Rhodesian Minister of Information and several MP's flew to Lusakaten days later for talks with Kaunda, and reachedagreement for a conference to be held on neutralground soon after their arrival. The conference washeld on  the bridge near  the  Victoria  Falls  inrailway carriages provided  by the South AfricanRailways on  25  August. Kaunda and Vorsterattended the meeting which may be  regarded asthe climax of the detente exercise, despite the  fact,that Smith  and the black  nationalists failed  toreach agreement. The ANC disintegrated after theVictoria  Falls meeting with Joshua Nkomo forming his own internal  wing, and Muzorewa  andSithole leading the external faction.

The front-line presidents,  notably Nyerere  of Tanzania  and Machel  of Mozambique  believed  that  political settlement was impossible, and this led directly to the establishment of the Zimbabwe People's Army (ZIPA), a military  group  consisting  of former ZANU and ZAPU  cadres. ZIPA forces, led by a Moscow-orientated,  18-man High Command  under former ZANU Field Commander Rex Nhongo, launched a new  offensive against Rhodesia on  18January  1976. This onslaught was perhaps  the single most significant  element in the  politicalstruggle  for Rhodesia,  and  quickly  led to  anescalation  of the conflict, especially  along theMogambique border where incidents have becomeincreasingly common. South African and Cubaninvolvement in  the  Angolan civil war,  and thethreat of Cuban involvement  in  Rhodesia,  oncemore fixed the international spotlight on SouthernAfrica and the Rhodesian issue,  and led to theKissinger initiative and the abortive Geneva  Conference.  Smith met Kissinger,  America's Secretary  ofState, for talks in  Pretoria, and returned to Rhodesia to announce that he had accepted the Kissingerproposals calling  for  establishment  of an interimgovernment and a handover to black majority rulewithin  two years.  The  proposals includedAmerican-British  assurances, and guarantees  forthe white minority. The agreement called for a haltto sanctions and the  terrorist war.  The  blacknationalists, notably Robert Mugabe of ZIPA, whoclaims to  have  assumed  command of ZANU'sexternal  wing  from  Sithole, and a  number  offront-line  presidents,  all  rejected the Kissingerproposals, and intimated that they had never beenparty  to them - the  impression Kissinger hadgiven according to Smith and Vorster.  The Salisbury  Government and the  black  leaders assembled at  Geneva under the chairmanshipof  Mr  Ivor Richard, a British UN representative in  October 1976 to try  and see how theproposals could best be implemented. However,the conference  was marked by dissent among theblack delegates from the beginning and  when  itbroke up for  Christmas  no headway had  beenmade.  In fact the  assembly of  the  conferenceoriginally scheduled  for  mid-January 1977  hasbeen indefinitely  postponed because of the deadlock.
 


I still don't get it. Please explain. I know they got boned just like South Africa but I don't know the details. I remember reading about the Selous Scouts(?) in Soldier of Fortune and how they ate "bush meat". Baboons! And that they wore beards to help protect their identity. Badass commie fighters!


The commie guerilla's where being supported by communist russia & china. Britain turned their backs on Rhodesia and started an arms/supply embargo on them. After a long period of kicking commie butt, Rhodesia just couldn't fund or supply it's war machine anymore. No one would lend a hand in any useful way. So they had to call it quits. And we ( the USA ) just stood by and watched it happen.
Angola & South Africa soon went the same way. Just got absorbed into a communist cesspool of nastiness that makes-up most of the southern part of africa you see today.
1/6/2013 8:35:11 PM EDT
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Check out the new rhodesian forums for great info. Alot of bush war vets are members there. A good book  to read is " Fireforce".


Yep, "Fireforce" by Chris Cocks and "Selous Scouts" by Ron Reid-Daly is excellent if you can find it. Also excellent is "Three Sips of Gin" by Timothy Bax. "Game of Vultures" is a fictional account of the war that was made into a movie. I have a few more in my library. Check out lekkerwear.com.  They have a decent selection.
1/6/2013 8:36:23 PM EDT
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LET'S SLOT FLOPPIES!

1/6/2013 8:43:24 PM EDT
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The commie cocksuckers had the outside political support.


We usually refer to that 'outside political support' as the U.N.

1/6/2013 8:53:04 PM EDT
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I knew you'd make it to this thread.



1/6/2013 8:55:37 PM EDT
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I always since about 10 wanted a Rhodesian Ridgeback

I settled a week a go for Ridgeback beer!


And yea well, NOT TOO BAD



They are fearless of physical danger but serious prima donnas when it comes to hurt feelings.  Good dogs and loyal.
1/6/2013 8:59:37 PM EDT
[#38]
My Izzy FAL has been masquerading as a S. African/Rhodie all weekend. I swapped HGs and the plastic S.A. handguards look bad-ass with the wood stock.
1/7/2013 5:46:06 AM EDT
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My Izzy FAL has been masquerading as a S. African/Rhodie all weekend. I swapped HGs and the plastic S.A. handguards look bad-ass with the wood stock.


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1/7/2013 6:09:03 AM EDT
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I still, and always will, call that land Rhodesia.

You have no idea how many people in America today have never heard of it.

Robert Mugabe can rot in Hell, that Marxist tyrannical son-of-.....
1/7/2013 6:12:55 AM EDT
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Gd loves them some heavily armed segregationists. They did have sexy camo daisy dukes
1/7/2013 6:17:24 AM EDT
[#42]
Rhodesian?

I miss my ridgeback and will buy another when I get a fence built.
1/7/2013 6:18:26 AM EDT
[#43]
FAL porn
1/7/2013 6:18:43 AM EDT
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Rhodesian?



I miss my ridgeback and will buy another when I get a fence built.


Did it run away?

 
1/7/2013 6:19:25 AM EDT
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I always since about 10 wanted a Rhodesian Ridgeback

I settled a week a go for Ridgeback beer!


And yea well, NOT TOO BAD



They are fearless of physical danger but serious prima donnas when it comes to hurt feelings.  Good dogs and loyal.


You're spot on about the hurt feelings, mine gets sulky if I look at her wrong.

1/7/2013 6:19:45 AM EDT
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Gd loves them some heavily armed segregationists. They did have sexy camo daisy dukes


Segregationist isn't really an accurate term. As it implies segregation based on race. Rhodesia was segregated class/wealth which followed racial lines. But was not absolute or based on race.

Rhodesia was not socially segregated, at least not legally. Many people lump Rhodesia in with the apartheid government of South Africa and that is a gross over simplification.
1/7/2013 6:24:02 AM EDT
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I still, and always will, call that land Rhodesia.



You have no idea how many people in America today have never heard of it.



Robert Mugabe can rot in Hell, that Marxist tyrannical son-of-.....


He'll be saving a seat for Carter.  That man has a lot of blood on his hands.  More liberal do-gooder gone horrifically wrong.  Africa may be a different place if the peanut farmer had started building houses for the FSA 30 years earlier instead of running for President.

 
1/7/2013 6:32:04 AM EDT
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Check out the new rhodesian forums for great info. Alot of bush war vets are members there. A good book  to read is " Fireforce".


Yep, "Fireforce" by Chris Cocks and "Selous Scouts" by Ron Reid-Daly is excellent if you can find it. Also excellent is "Three Sips of Gin" by Timothy Bax. "Game of Vultures" is a fictional account of the war that was made into a movie. I have a few more in my library. Check out lekkerwear.com.  They have a decent selection.


"James and the Duck"- Faan Martin, is a good read. It's a collection of short personal stories.

"The Bush War in Rhodesia"- Dennis Croukamp, is a great book. He was a Selous Scout, and this is a personal account book.

"Fireforce" is another good personal account.
1/7/2013 6:33:51 AM EDT
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again?

Damn right again!
 


Come on man, it's only the first one of the year.
1/7/2013 6:47:23 AM EDT
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Any book recommendations on the Rhodesian Civil War would be appreciated


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