[ARCHIVED THREAD] - How Creationists react to evidence. (Page 1 of 8)
Posted: 7/31/2015 12:13:34 PM EDT
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Link to Facebook video...Hilarious
I have some creationists in my extended family. They have hilarious circular logic such as, "The fossil record shows dinosaurs and thorny plants existed at the same time. The Bible says thorns didn't occur on plants until after the fall of Adam. Therefore dinosaurs and people walked the earth at the same time." Yes, these people walk among us. I humored them and went to the Creation Museum in Kentucky. It was a well designed museum with well executed exhibits, fueled by a heavy dose of batshit crazy and denial of science. |
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Link to Facebook video...Hilarious I have some creationists in my extended family. They have hilarious circular logic such as, "The fossil record shows dinosaurs and thorny plants existed at the same time. The Bible says thorns didn't occur on plants until after the fall of Adam. Therefore dinosaurs and people walked the earth at the same time." Yes, these people walk among us. I humored them and went to the Creation Museum in Kentucky. It was a well designed museum with well executed exhibits, fueled by a heavy dose of batshit crazy and denial of science. Don't paint with such a wide brush, please. Strict Darwin supporters sound pretty stupid, too. |
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Done to death. Let me guess, it's the same reaction as the other side when "evidence" is proven fraudulent? Yawn Actually no. When scientists who specialize in evolutionary biology find out that evidence is proven false, they adjust their theory. Because they're scientists and that's what the scientific method is all about. |
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Done to death. Let me guess, it's the same reaction as the other side when "evidence" is proven fraudulent? Yawn http://media.giphy.com/media/wSU1U3h1PFFsc/giphy.gif What? Surely if we have this discussion again someone will change their position on the matter... 
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Quoted: Actually no. When scientists who specialize in evolutionary biology find out that evidence is proven false, they adjust their theory. Because they're scientists and that's what the scientific method is all about. Quoted: Quoted: Done to death. Let me guess, it's the same reaction as the other side when "evidence" is proven fraudulent? Yawn Actually no. When scientists who specialize in evolutionary biology find out that evidence is proven false, they adjust their theory. Because they're scientists and that's what the scientific method is all about.  |
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Link to Facebook video...Hilarious I have some creationists in my extended family. They have hilarious circular logic such as, "The fossil record shows dinosaurs and thorny plants existed at the same time. The Bible says thorns didn't occur on plants until after the fall of Adam. Therefore dinosaurs and people walked the earth at the same time." Yes, these people walk among us. I humored them and went to the Creation Museum in Kentucky. It was a well designed museum with well executed exhibits, fueled by a heavy dose of batshit crazy and denial of science. Damn, you're cool bro! 
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iv never understood why it always has to be either evolution or god....... why cant it be a combination? god created jesus, by using the normal process of a woman getting pregnant, and carrying and giving birth, etc.( he did not just presto a man into exhistance, full grown, he used the natural , normal way to get his result) . it took 20-30 something years to have jesus walking around doing miracles. IF you believe in god.... then you believe 1000 years to god is nothing, hell a million years is nothing....so..... why could god not have used evolution to get man, if time means nothing to him? just start the process with the ocean, and a million years later you end up with man..
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Then explain the "scientist" involved with global warming studies.
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Done to death. Let me guess, it's the same reaction as the other side when "evidence" is proven fraudulent? Yawn Actually no. When scientists who specialize in evolutionary biology find out that evidence is proven false, they adjust their theory. Because they're scientists and that's what the scientific method is all about.
Global warming is driven by money from people who stand to gain monetarily if they can shift the economy away from fossil fuels, or even make it seem as if that is happening. There is no money machine driving evolutionary biology. |
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Quoted: Global warming is driven by money from people who stand to gain monetarily if they can shift the economy away from fossil fuels, or even make it seem as if that is happening. There is no money machine driving evolutionary biology. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Done to death. Let me guess, it's the same reaction as the other side when "evidence" is proven fraudulent? Yawn Actually no. When scientists who specialize in evolutionary biology find out that evidence is proven false, they adjust their theory. Because they're scientists and that's what the scientific method is all about. Global warming is driven by money from people who stand to gain monetarily if they can shift the economy away from fossil fuels, or even make it seem as if that is happening. There is no money machine driving evolutionary biology. |
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iv never understood why it always has to be either evolution or god....... why cant it be a combination? god created jesus, by using the normal process of a woman getting pregnant, and carrying and giving birth, etc.( he did not just presto a man into exhistance, full grown, he used the natural , normal way to get his result) . it took 20-30 something years to have jesus walking around doing miracles. IF you believe in god.... then you believe 1000 years to god is nothing, hell a million years is nothing....so..... why could god not have used evolution to get man, if time means nothing to him? just start the process with the ocean, and a million years later you end up with man.. Most people who accept the reality that life evolved have no problem with that idea. I am not religious, but I couldn't tell you for any certainty that the first life wasn't created. It's certainly possible. The ones who have a problem with it are zealots---mostly fundamentalists, but also some blowhard atheist "spokespeople" who represent nonbeliever to the same extent that Al Sharpton represents blacks. |
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My point is just being a scientist doesn't mean you are actually applying the scientific method. There are other motivations besides money. Ego is a huge one, as is defending your belief system regardless of what it happens to be. Quoted:
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Done to death. Let me guess, it's the same reaction as the other side when "evidence" is proven fraudulent? Yawn Actually no. When scientists who specialize in evolutionary biology find out that evidence is proven false, they adjust their theory. Because they're scientists and that's what the scientific method is all about.
Global warming is driven by money from people who stand to gain monetarily if they can shift the economy away from fossil fuels, or even make it seem as if that is happening. There is no money machine driving evolutionary biology. Ego, sure, but you misunderstand science and the scientific process. You make your name in science by disproving other people's theories. If someone could punch big holes in evolutionary theory, they'd do it. Not because they are Creationists, but because then they would be able to promote their competing theory. |
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Actually no. When scientists who specialize in evolutionary biology find out that evidence is proven false, they adjust their theory. Because they're scientists and that's what the scientific method is all about. Quoted:
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Done to death. Let me guess, it's the same reaction as the other side when "evidence" is proven fraudulent? Yawn Actually no. When scientists who specialize in evolutionary biology find out that evidence is proven false, they adjust their theory. Because they're scientists and that's what the scientific method is all about. Except when it comes to global warming. |
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My grandfather thought that if your house burned the Bible would not catch on fire.My mother thought that if you lit blessed candles it would provide protection in thunderstorms. What's the value of arguing over irrational religious beliefs? So Aimless, did your fathers bible ever catch on fire? |
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Then explain the "scientist" involved with global warming studies.
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Done to death. Let me guess, it's the same reaction as the other side when "evidence" is proven fraudulent? Yawn Actually no. When scientists who specialize in evolutionary biology find out that evidence is proven false, they adjust their theory. Because they're scientists and that's what the scientific method is all about.
There are a lot less politics and big government money involved in evolutionary biology. Also, it doesn't seem that anti-capitalist anarchists give two shit about it either. Biologists, not pop-Sci goons with their own TV shows, but those guys who work for universities and small companies have nothing to gain other than credibility in their field by doing it right. Global warming guys, unless they publish research that doesn't follow the current government dialog, have lots of shit to gain. Lots of grants, visits to DC for photo ops, and appearances on Oprah are enough motivation for some environmental scientists to ignore results. |
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So Aimless, did your fathers bible ever catch on fire? Quoted:
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My grandfather thought that if your house burned the Bible would not catch on fire.My mother thought that if you lit blessed candles it would provide protection in thunderstorms. What's the value of arguing over irrational religious beliefs? So Aimless, did your fathers bible ever catch on fire? Yes, but the rest of his house was untouched.
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Quoted: Ego, sure, but you misunderstand science and the scientific process. You make your name in science by disproving other people's theories. If someone could punch big holes in evolutionary theory, they'd do it. Not because they are Creationists, but because then they would be able to promote their competing theory. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Global warming is driven by money from people who stand to gain monetarily if they can shift the economy away from fossil fuels, or even make it seem as if that is happening. There is no money machine driving evolutionary biology. Ego, sure, but you misunderstand science and the scientific process. You make your name in science by disproving other people's theories. If someone could punch big holes in evolutionary theory, they'd do it. Not because they are Creationists, but because then they would be able to promote their competing theory. I understand it just fine, but I've seen too many people not use it and push their ideas for me to trust so called scientists anymore. I firmly believe in evolution, but my distrust of "scientists" is a general thing anymore due to behavior of many that claim the title. And I think I have managed to jack up the quote tree. |
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Don't you have a soldier's funeral to protest? |
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My grandfather thought that if your house burned the Bible would not catch on fire.My mother thought that if you lit blessed candles it would provide protection in thunderstorms. What's the value of arguing over irrational religious beliefs? He might be onto something. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/04/16/the-only-item-that-survived-the-lady-antebellum-bus-fire-was-hillary-scotts-bible/ Also if the candle is large enough it could dissipate a thunderstorm. 
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Quoted: Don't paint with such a wide brush, please. Strict Darwin supporters sound pretty stupid, too. Quoted: Quoted: Link to Facebook video...Hilarious I have some creationists in my extended family. They have hilarious circular logic such as, "The fossil record shows dinosaurs and thorny plants existed at the same time. The Bible says thorns didn't occur on plants until after the fall of Adam. Therefore dinosaurs and people walked the earth at the same time." Yes, these people walk among us. I humored them and went to the Creation Museum in Kentucky. It was a well designed museum with well executed exhibits, fueled by a heavy dose of batshit crazy and denial of science. Don't paint with such a wide brush, please. Strict Darwin supporters sound pretty stupid, too. |
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My grandfather thought that if your house burned the Bible would not catch on fire.My mother thought that if you lit blessed candles it would provide protection in thunderstorms. What's the value of arguing over irrational religious beliefs? He might be onto something. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2015/04/16/the-only-item-that-survived-the-lady-antebellum-bus-fire-was-hillary-scotts-bible/ I've also heard of fires happening in towns and surrounding buildings and Churches being untouched. |
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Yes, but the rest of his house was untouched. Quoted:
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My grandfather thought that if your house burned the Bible would not catch on fire.My mother thought that if you lit blessed candles it would provide protection in thunderstorms. What's the value of arguing over irrational religious beliefs? So Aimless, did your fathers bible ever catch on fire? Yes, but the rest of his house was untouched. So you are saying the Blessed candle worked but the burnt bible theory is BS? 
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Quoted: In. ETA: I don't live all that far from the creation museum. I'm tempted to go, but I don't know if they would let me tailgate first  I went to the one here close to me, they have some pretty impressive dinosaur exhibits, which was why I took my gf and her little boy. He loves dinosaurs. He wasn't much interested in the "science" they were pushing, but I found it hilarious. |
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Crazy creationist checking in. (I walk among you! Oh the noes!) Just a quick statement. While I believe God created the heavens and the earth etc etc from Genesis, I also believe He created it in its maturity, much like I believe Adam and Eve would have been adults, not infants upon creation. They may look 24, but they're a say old etc... So anything that looks old could just have been made that way?
Cray Cray crayationist checking out. |
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"Retard frog-squirrel" Classic. |
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Don't paint with such a wide brush, please. Strict Darwin supporters sound pretty stupid, too. Quoted:
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Link to Facebook video...Hilarious I have some creationists in my extended family. They have hilarious circular logic such as, "The fossil record shows dinosaurs and thorny plants existed at the same time. The Bible says thorns didn't occur on plants until after the fall of Adam. Therefore dinosaurs and people walked the earth at the same time." Yes, these people walk among us. I humored them and went to the Creation Museum in Kentucky. It was a well designed museum with well executed exhibits, fueled by a heavy dose of batshit crazy and denial of science. Don't paint with such a wide brush, please. Strict Darwin supporters sound pretty stupid, too. You are trying to create a false equivalency. People that deny reality and believe in some Harry Potter level shit because they read it in a book are a bit different than people that accept a scientific theory that is supported by evidence from a variety of science disciplines. |