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5/2/2005 2:56:07 PM EDT
If you have a two-story house, is it worth installing all the sensors on the windows UPSTAIRS?

My new house has LOTS of windows downstairs. I'm thinking of getting the broken-glass sensors, but then getting only the motion sensors rather than the sensors on EACH window to save some $$$. Problem is, I'm hoping to have a dog, and I doubt he'll "stay" that long, no matter HOW well he's trained.

Suggestions?
5/2/2005 3:00:13 PM EDT
[#1]
Depends on the neighborhood. Anything high-value? lots of break ins? Can the windows be reached without a ladder? When I bought my house, I did a walk around and tried to figure out how & where I would get in if I wanted in, then modified as necessary.

5/2/2005 3:04:28 PM EDT
[#2]
Second floor windows cannot be accessed without a ladder. The neighborhood is very quiet and upscale, and away from anything that would normally attract undesireables. Contents of the house are me and my guns. In the future it might be my next family.
5/2/2005 3:04:57 PM EDT
[#3]
I agree.  And the new motion detectors can be set to ignore any heat signature below a certain mass.  So you should be fine with the dog.

I have 2 upstairs windows with sensors, as you could stand on part of the roof and reach them.  The others you would have to bring your own ladder and know which windows are no covered.  Each room not covered has a Glass Break, and I have a motion detector in the central area also.  

5/2/2005 3:07:00 PM EDT
[#4]
I think motion detectors are enough, but the wife wanted sensors on each door and window. 39 sensors at $75 a piece.
5/2/2005 3:09:32 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
39 sensors at $75 a piece.



Ouch!

I'd end up with about 20.



Didn't know about the new motion detectors. Last time I got an alarm, they told me to simply raise the sensors up.

The dog(s) in question will be small. A Corgi will be the biggest.
5/2/2005 6:05:57 PM EDT
[#6]
Anyone else?
5/2/2005 6:11:15 PM EDT
[#7]
Get rid of the Corgi and get a Rottweiler. Problem solved..
5/2/2005 6:12:15 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Get rid of the Corgi and get a Rottweiler. Problem solved..





Nah. I love the little tanks on four legs!
5/3/2005 7:20:03 AM EDT
[#9]
Motion detectors are the way.  Forget trying to secure every window.  Put motion detectors at interlocking fields and you'll catch that scumbag.
5/3/2005 7:56:03 AM EDT
[#10]
I have a two story home & i have motion sensors downstairs only.  
5/3/2005 8:09:38 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Motion detectors are the way.  Forget trying to secure every window.  Put motion detectors at interlocking fields and you'll catch that scumbag.



Wire them up to claymores and machine guns, and.....
5/3/2005 8:13:48 AM EDT
[#12]
We just finished building our house, we put sensors on every window, but since we hardwired before the drywall it only cost  $4.00 for each sensor (we did all the installation ourselves).  I probably would have skipped it outherwise.  

I would say it would also depend on your controller. WE you go to arm the system, ours shows any not ready zones and lets you bypass them. If I couldn;t do this I would have skipped the upstairs, for sometimes we leave some of those windows open.

-Dan
5/3/2005 8:19:40 AM EDT
[#13]
I put them everywhere, every window. It is not that much more in the big picture.

Ever see a TV show named "It takes a theif" ? Those guys open your eyes right up.
5/3/2005 8:29:03 AM EDT
[#14]
I had the same dilema and went with the motion sensors downstairs. They set them so my dog could walk around at night and not set them off. They covered all areas but one room. In that one room I had 2 windows which both got sensors put on them, it was cheaper than another motion detector. Upstairs I went with nothing because of the dog. Figured he'd hear it and be on it and wake me with time to grab a weapon. The salesguy actually talked us out of doing the upstairs. Said something like 98.999 breakins are down on ground level.

FWIW...


5/3/2005 7:07:28 PM EDT
[#15]
It will be interesting to see what the alarm guy recommends. I'm going to get three or four estimates, both local and national, and see what they say.
5/3/2005 7:11:48 PM EDT
[#16]
If all upstairs bedrooms lead to a common hallway you can set a trap. Get a weight activated floor pad and position so that you have to cross it to go from one room to the other.
5/3/2005 7:19:04 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
I agree.  And the new motion detectors can be set to ignore any heat signature below a certain mass.  So you should be fine with the dog.

I have 2 upstairs windows with sensors, as you could stand on part of the roof and reach them.  The others you would have to bring your own ladder and know which windows are no covered.  Each room not covered has a Glass Break, and I have a motion detector in the central area also.  





I am in need of a new Motion Detector then.  Our pets have been know to set it off.

Can I just take the old one off and install a new one?
5/3/2005 7:28:39 PM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
If all upstairs bedrooms lead to a common hallway you can set a trap. Get a weight activated floor pad and position so that you have to cross it to go from one room to the other.



Unfortunately, no. The stairs go up to a central hall, but the MBR is to the left, and the other rooms are to the right. I'd have to aim the detector straight down the staircase.
5/3/2005 7:29:47 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Can I just take the old one off and install a new one?



I think so. The sensor has the guts which determine if it has seen anything. If it does, it yells at the console via the existing wire. As such, you should be able to just swap them.