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5/20/2005 6:47:51 AM EDT
 I was talking to a few other deputies and i was really surprised to found out very few keep a hidden cuff key. I thought it was rather common. SO how many of you hide a cuff key on your uniform? In your boot?keeper? etc? I have one behind the top lace of my boot and one behind a keeper. Just curious how common it is.

J
5/20/2005 7:30:24 AM EDT
[#1]
Yup.

5/20/2005 7:46:42 AM EDT
[#2]
I have a couple.

Partial Hijak, but related:  Why do you have a hidden key?  Is it because you want to have a spare, or is it incase you are cuffed?

5/20/2005 7:49:24 AM EDT
[#3]
if your working around cuffs you need to have plenty of keys!
the quetion is can you get to your hidden key if your hands are cuffed behind your back?
and then can you unlock the damn things?
5/20/2005 1:26:37 PM EDT
[#4]
Keeper on the back side. Keeper on the front side.

Plus one sewed into the shirt sleeve and one attached to the inside of my boot.
5/20/2005 1:53:38 PM EDT
[#5]
The only problem with the keeper hiding place is..it isn't a secret. How many guys have you seen wearing it with the key hanging out!
I like the boot lace idea.
5/20/2005 2:46:01 PM EDT
[#6]
I have a few on me, some are visible, some are not.
5/20/2005 2:52:04 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
I have a couple.

Partial Hijak, but related:  Why do you have a hidden key?  Is it because you want to have a spare, or is it incase you are cuffed?




Both
5/20/2005 4:08:50 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
The only problem with the keeper hiding place is..it isn't a secret. How many guys have you seen wearing it with the key hanging out!
I like the boot lace idea.



And with people posting this on the Internet for all the "Turds" to learn.

Yes..

Bad guys do this too.
5/20/2005 4:38:00 PM EDT
[#9]
We received a security bulletin at work about one that was hidden right out in the open. Very ingenious.
5/20/2005 5:00:29 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
The only problem with the keeper hiding place is..it isn't a secret. How many guys have you seen wearing it with the key hanging out!
I like the boot lace idea.



And with people posting this on the Internet for all the "Turds" to learn.

Yes..

Bad guys do this too.



Yes, but with it out in the open, hopefully we all learn of the "tricks" and do careful searches of our prisoners.

On that note, I'll give you this one.  We had a guy with a razor hidden in the flap of his jeans that covers the zipper.  He just sliced one side open and slid the razor in.  Metal detector went over it and buzzed like it was his zipper.  Luckily someone thought to investigate the frayed section and found the razor.
5/20/2005 6:16:57 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
The only problem with the keeper hiding place is..it isn't a secret. How many guys have you seen wearing it with the key hanging out!
I like the boot lace idea.




You never see it or feel it and it's easy to get to.

J
5/20/2005 6:21:51 PM EDT
[#12]
My 5.11 boots have a "secret" pocket.
5/20/2005 7:38:23 PM EDT
[#13]
I hide one.
5/20/2005 9:00:22 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
The only problem with the keeper hiding place is..it isn't a secret. How many guys have you seen wearing it with the key hanging out!
I like the boot lace idea.



Striker:

Somebody (ZAK maybe?) makes one that is made to slide over the female half of the snaps on the inside of a keeper. It doesn't show from the outside, except for a small part of the double-lock pin. And I think Safariland still makes the Hidden Keyper with the cuff key that swivels out from inside the keeper.

If you need the spare key because you're cuffed in the back, can you get to the key on the boot lace?
I've never tried that way, but it sounds like a good idea....
5/20/2005 9:11:33 PM EDT
[#15]
Yes, I have one.  
5/20/2005 9:34:32 PM EDT
[#16]
Extras 1 in  mag holder, 1 in keeper, 1 in laces and one insde underbelt. Paraniod...uh well
5/21/2005 4:37:34 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
And I think Safariland still makes the Hidden Keyper with the cuff key that swivels out from inside the keeper.



That is the one I was talking about. Some of the guys at work have them.
5/21/2005 4:40:21 AM EDT
[#18]
One of my spare keys is kept on the whistle chain that we are required to wear as part of the uniform.

That's just one of the three spares I have on my person on duty.

Dave
5/21/2005 4:52:40 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

If you need the spare key because you're cuffed in the back, can you get to the key on the boot lace?
I've never tried that way, but it sounds like a good idea....



actually it's easy to access if you are on your knees. It's a lot easier since my boots have side zippers. Just untie the lace, unzip the boot and out she comes.I've practiced several times and it's not that hard.


J
5/21/2005 8:39:55 AM EDT
[#20]
Carry three: one on my key ring, one in my pocket, and one in my belt keeper.
5/21/2005 9:42:29 AM EDT
[#21]
Put one in your trunck.
5/21/2005 3:42:42 PM EDT
[#22]
several - belt keeper, wallet, half of the key ring on my belt, the other half that stays in the ignition, and my personal keychain .
5/21/2005 4:16:34 PM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:
Put one in your trunck.



Might not be a bad idea. I dont think it would work for me though. I have so much stuff in my trunk I couldntr stick a sandwich bag much less my 6'1 240#s.  I think I need a SUV for all my equioment.
5/21/2005 5:45:00 PM EDT
[#24]
Tape key to the inside of your regular trouser pant belt(small of back area).
5/22/2005 9:35:25 AM EDT
[#25]
yes
5/22/2005 11:20:28 AM EDT
[#26]
yep I keep a couple hidden ones.
5/25/2005 12:56:33 AM EDT
[#27]
1 in my keeper, 1 behind my badge, 1 in my ankle holster.


Frank